Was the shin cliff hanger harder than the v3 one

[Shuberb674]

At first the shincliffhanger seemed harder. But 12 of the last 13 people to attempt it cleared.It's clear rate stands higher than v3 cliffhanger. So which was harder?

[TCM]

Shin had a harder technique (and when multiple people attempt the obstacles multiple times, they do tend to perfect it, thus the high clear rate), but V3 had harder obstacles preceding it as opposed to when Shin was around (so if you had cleared before, but the previous obstacles took too much out of you, you didn't have a chance).

[VenusHeadTrap]

The jump makes it harder. Common sense.

[UnrealCanine]

I think too many people were practising the Shin Ch.

[RiderLeangle]

Well, this is tough to say, If it's by relative difficulty by stage I'd have to go with the aratame in its later tournaments (Mainly the ones where it was Rumbling Dice -> Body Prop -> Curtain Cling), but looking at the obstacles alone, despite the fact there's less distance of ledge (Frame is the same length though) I'd probably have to go with the Shin. I mean sure, statistically it would look like it's easier, while these aren't really risks someone who makes it there should encounter, you have to worry about having your swing perfect so you don't fall off and have to make sure you can hang on when you get it.
Sure it's still fairly easy but despite the drop down I'd say it's easier to just keep moving across as long as it's not a ridiculous length (Which it isn't, if it was jumps would be welcome since you're covering more ground faster ).

[Badalight]

If we're talking the obstacle by itself...

Shin-cliffhanger, no doubt. That shouldn't even be a question.

If we're talking about their respective tournaments, I'd say V3 because of the much harder obstacles that came before it.

[Slayer0]

Shin-Cliffhanger was hard yes, and what bada said, V3 was
harder because of the obstacles before it.

[RiderLeangle]

You guys do realize I said the exact same thing before bada did right?

[Badalight]

My post was shorter and easier to read.

[Shuberb674]

Regardless of whose post was shorter and which obstacles preceeded the cliffhanger I think v3 was harder.2 reasons why;

1) Ledge 3 on the shin cliffhanger was 6 cm wide. On v3 it was the normal 3cm.
2) On the shincliffhanger on the transition from ledge 2 to 3 you are moving more across than down. On v3 the transition is straight down so gravity works against you more. On v3 you don't have the momentum that you have from the shincliffhanger jump to counter gravity.

[UnrealCanine]

But because 1 -> 2 is the same, the end of ledge 3 is higher than the V3 era, so gravity is working against you more.

[RiderLeangle]

1: That's only the catch part so it's still logically possible
2: The second ledge on the Shin Cliffhanger is also angled upwards so it would be higher than the drop down on the cliffhanger aratame... So you're going across and down much more than on the v3.

[thegreatluigi]

It was harder, but the standard of competitors was much higher.

For instance, if the Sasuke 2 Pipe Slider was brought back (which eliminated 7 people in one tournament), do you think it would eliminate anyone at all?

[intelligentinfer]

But in the SCH, one of the ledges is shorter and swinging saves a lot more energy than going past the evil drop. I'll have to go with v3.

[RiderLeangle]

Honestly the catch equals that out. They're pretty equal as obstacles but I think the technique is what makes the SCH count as "harder"

[VenusHeadTrap]

Jan 22, 2012 11:10:43 GMT -5 intelligentinfer said:

But in the SCH, one of the ledges is shorter and swinging saves a lot more energy than going past the evil drop. I'll have to go with v3.

How do you know? What are you Nagano? The jolt from hanging on to the ledge after making the jump is what makes v4 difficult, I'm not saying that makes it HARDER, I just say threads like these are pointless.

[intelligentinfer]

ya know all coaches in the army say that swinging saves energy so.... and on the SCH you end the jump with both hands on ledge 3, but you have a moment with only 1 on v3. This is just my personal analysis, feel free to deny it XD
But anyways Nagano just have a unique method on all CHs.

[VenusHeadTrap]

Feb 12, 2012 5:43:08 GMT -5 intelligentinfer said:

ya know all coaches in the army say that swinging saves energy so.... and on the SCH you end the jump with both hands on ledge 3, but you have a moment with only 1 on v3. This is just my personal analysis, feel free to deny it XD
But anyways Nagano just have a unique method on all CHs.

I could swing too if I wanted on v3, a smaller ledge but a much shorter gap.

[cdogy2014]

I think the Shin-Cliffhanger is harder because you have to jump. But eventually people began to build the obstacle and gain thier finger tip strength. So it became easier for some people. that is why I think the Shin-Cliffhanger is harder.