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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Aug 9, 2011 15:38:46 GMT -5
Discuss
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Aug 9, 2011 15:54:53 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident Lee now has the capabilities of demolishing the Ultimate Cliff Hanger now that he has gotten done with that vigorous upper body training. The only problem is him getting there. My one concern for Lee is him timing out on the 1st Stage, as all of his previous clears were below the 10 second mark if I'm not mistaken. (His last one being last second)
As for Okuyama, I don't think he'll be able to clear the beast that he has attempted twice before along with Lee. His strong point are his LEGS. He has failed the 3rd Stage 4 times in the past but barely ever fails the 1st Stage anymore. Why is this? He is fast and has endurance... IN HIS LOWER BODY. I'm not saying he wont clear the UCH in the future, I just don't think he'll be making it past it in 27. Also, just like Lee, he has to get to the obstacle to take it on first... and the 2nd Stage isn't too friendly to him.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Aug 9, 2011 16:25:31 GMT -5
I think Li will, not Okuyama
No offence to him, and I hope I'm wrong
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Post by RobbyMac on Aug 9, 2011 16:36:27 GMT -5
Both. Only thing stopping Okuyama would be the 2 stages before.... he may have made it closer to the small ledge had he not screwed up the transfer to the 4th ledge the 1st time.
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Post by yamfriend on Aug 9, 2011 16:41:24 GMT -5
I honestly don't think either of them will clear it this time around, though I do feel that somebody else will. It's not that I don't think they lack the capability of doing so yet (though Li is probably more likely to clear it than Okuyama at this point), but the possibility of them not getting there. As darkpanther43 remarked upon, all but one of Li's Stage 1 clears have occurred with him having less than 5 seconds left. As proof, here's his Stage 1 results that I mentioned in another post a while back:
Sasuke 17: clear (3.4 seconds left)
Sasuke 18: failed Jumping Spider
Sasuke 21: clear (4.06 seconds left)
Sasuke 22: clear (2.61 seconds left)
Sasuke 23: clear (3.36 seconds left)
Sasuke 24: clear (4.13 seconds left)
Sasuke 25: clear (14.29 seconds left)
Sasuke 26: clear (1.32 seconds left)
Considering how many close calls Li has had in the First Stage with both the time limit and multiple obstacles, I could see him timing out there in 27. If he does clear Stage 1, however, I could see him getting past the UCH at last (I'd give him 50/50 chance for 27).
To me it seems that Okuyama hasn't had as much trouble as Li's had with Stage 1 over the past few tournaments, and even though he had a pretty close call time-wise in 26, I expect him to have cleared Stage 1 in 27. The same can be said about Stage 2 for him in 26, but even so I'd give him about a 75% chance of him making it back to Stage 3 for the 6th time in a row. Considering he doesn't screw up early in the stage, I think he'll get pretty far on the UCH, but ultimately I see him failing the jump from ledge 4 to 5 (i.e. maybe a 20/80 chance of clearing it as of now). Nevertheless, they are arguably the 2 most consistent competitors as of lately and I definitely can see them both clearing the UCH eventually; however, I'm not so sure about it happening for either of them in Sasuke 27.
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Post by SRW on Aug 9, 2011 17:50:29 GMT -5
Okuyama will beat the UCH in 28 I think and Lee beats the UCH in the upcoming 27 and makes the final stage  . |
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Post by Gigarator on Aug 10, 2011 18:55:24 GMT -5
I think out of those two, Li En Zhi has the better chance of beating it, but for some reason I think Kenji Takahashi will possibly conquer it too if he manages to get there again.
I'd be surprised if anybody does complete it in this tournament though, I still think it might go through a couple more tweaks before it's doable.
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Post by GregPuciato on Aug 10, 2011 22:42:10 GMT -5
As for Okuyama, I don't think he'll be able to clear the beast that he has attempted twice before along with Lee. His strong point are his LEGS. He has failed the 3rd Stage 4 times in the past but barely ever fails the 1st Stage anymore. Why is this? He is fast and has endurance... IN HIS LOWER BODY. Yeah, he's a sprinter, but you're underestimating his upper body. If i remember correctly, i think he was the first dude to blow through the first salmon ladder (even if the bar rotated and he fell in after dismounting it). Also, i met the dude. He's freakin ripped. Way more so in person. I met him with Nagano and Yuuji at ANW2, and he was actually the scariest looking one of the bunch. Nagano looked like some oldschool-hardass-Japanese Charles Bronson, Okuyama looked like a professional athlete (duh) and Yuuji just looked cute. Back on topic, i actually think Lee and Okuyama can pass it or get close IF they get to it. I don't think many others will get there. Maybe Hashimoto and Steffenson? haha |
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Aug 13, 2011 14:43:46 GMT -5
I seriously think people are underestimating Okuyama. He's always improving and I definetely think he can pass the UCH. Look at how much he improved in 26. He could have gone furthest if he hadn't botched the 4th ledge transition.
Li can pass it, I think, too but in order to do so, he needs to be quicker on the obstacles before the UCH.
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Post by luispacheco on Aug 14, 2011 17:18:49 GMT -5
I never saw anyone demolish the Salmon Ladder like Okuyama did in Sasuke 20. When I saw that I became an instant fan. Okuyama's biggest race is the one against time and so far he's winning.
I voted Both.
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Post by naganosupreeeme on Sept 7, 2011 20:51:23 GMT -5
I always go by "if I haven't seen them beat it then they can't" then when they do I get all jacked up and excited. But I'd say 8+ beat it this year. Money out of these two would be on Lee. But Okuyama improved on it big time last year and I think he's got a good shot again.
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Post by cole77000 on Sept 7, 2011 23:12:12 GMT -5
I'd say 8+ beat it this year. 0_0 wow the rest of the course must be mad easy (i didnt see ANW3) |
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Post by intelligentinfer on Sept 17, 2011 3:28:54 GMT -5
I'm saying Lee and someone else but I would like to see a close call.
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Post by Badalight on Sept 17, 2011 11:33:52 GMT -5
I'd say 8+ beat it this year. quote] 0_0 wow the rest of the course must be mad easy (i didnt see ANW3) Uhh, in Sasuke 26 7 people passed it. So it's not a stretch at all. |
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Post by cole77000 on Sept 17, 2011 14:55:31 GMT -5
I'd say 8+ beat it this year. 0_0 wow the rest of the course must be mad easy (i didnt see ANW3) Uhh, in Sasuke 26 7 people passed it. So it's not a stretch at all. Oh I thought he meant that he thought 8+ would pass the UCH. |
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Post by Badalight on Sept 17, 2011 15:11:36 GMT -5
0_0 wow the rest of the course must be mad easy (i didnt see ANW3) Uhh, in Sasuke 26 7 people passed it. So it's not a stretch at all. Oh I thought he meant that he thought 8+ would pass the UCH. [/quote] Now THAT would be something. |
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Post by wolf4537 on Sept 20, 2011 14:20:35 GMT -5
I think both will clear stage 1. It's just a matter of what happens from there.
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