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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 3, 2011 13:11:28 GMT -5
I think Travis is better.. I think had they not disqualified him in the 4th tournament, he actually could have had a chance at winning. What do you think?
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Post by thatoneuser on Aug 3, 2011 13:16:54 GMT -5
Travis did it on a significantly easier course, though.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 3, 2011 13:23:40 GMT -5
Hmmm, true. But reviewing their Stage 3 performances, I think Travis has more poised upper body strength. It really showed on the way he pushed the pipe. Whilst Terek struggled a lot.
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Post by bigblind168 on Aug 3, 2011 13:27:19 GMT -5
IMHO, TAS is one of the most underrated Sasuke competitors ever.
I think TAS is better. theres no way PAT would have passed stage 2 in sasuke 4, or 5.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 3, 2011 13:31:53 GMT -5
IMHO, TAS is one of the most underrated Sasuke competitors ever. I think TAS is better. theres no way PAT would have passed stage 2 in sasuke 4, or 5. Very true. Plus, Travis' Spider Walk far surpasses Paul's.
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Post by TCM on Aug 3, 2011 13:40:42 GMT -5
Well Terek is a decathlete, and you need to be a tad more well rounded as you have 10 different events to do. Helps on shows like Sportsman, not so much on Sasuke since so many obstacles pinpoint specific traits needed to clear. Plus, maybe it's just me but Terek seems a tad bigger overall, not just in height or weight.
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Post by bigblind168 on Aug 3, 2011 13:50:16 GMT -5
Well Terek is a decathlete, and you need to be a tad more well rounded as you have 10 different events to do. Helps on shows like Sportsman, not so much on Sasuke since so many obstacles pinpoint specific traits needed to clear. Plus, maybe it's just me but Terek seems a tad bigger overall, not just in height or weight. theres no question who the better athlete is, its obviously Terek. But what he specializes in doesn't transfer too well to SASUKE.
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Post by yamfriend on Aug 3, 2011 13:51:39 GMT -5
TAS seemed to do very well in Stage 3 until his mishap on the Pipe Slider, even if it was a lot easier than 17's. Still, he even cleared the Cliffhanger when it was brand new, while PAT fell almost instantly on it (though he might've been more fatigued by then). Also, even with the Jump Hang and Soritatsu Kabe being new to Stage 1 when he competed in 5, TAS still managed to make it to the end of the stage and would've probably cleared if he hadn't gotten his foot stuck in the Jump Hang's net. I'm not saying that TAS would be more likely to beat Stage 1 in Shin-Sasuke (which PAT couldn't do either), but IMO it seemed as if TAS was better with new obstacles of the 2. As to which one was probably better overall, however, would be very tough to call. Now that I think about it, IIRC wasn't this discussed on one of the earlier pages in the Sim Sasuke thread?
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 3, 2011 14:09:47 GMT -5
TAS seemed to do very well in Stage 3 until his mishap on the Pipe Slider, even if it was a lot easier than 17's. Still, he even cleared the Cliffhanger when it was brand new, while PAT fell almost instantly on it (though he might've been more fatigued by then). Also, even with the Jump Hang and Soritatsu Kabe being new to Stage 1 when he competed in 5, TAS still managed to make it to the end of the stage and would've probably cleared if he hadn't gotten his foot stuck in the Jump Hang's net. I'm not saying that TAS would be more likely to beat Stage 1 in Shin-Sasuke (which PAT couldn't do either), but IMO it seemed as if TAS was better with new obstacles of the 2. As to which one was probably better overall, however, would be very tough to call. Now that I think about it, IIRC wasn't this discussed on one of the earlier pages in the Sim Sasuke thread? My mistake, I've just now started posting on this board, I've been a long time fan of this show, so I'm not really completely familiar with all the buzzing topics. x)
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Post by yamfriend on Aug 3, 2011 14:19:21 GMT -5
No problem man. I think that was even before I joined (just stumbled upon that page a while back and just happened to remember it), and that was a sporadically-mentioned thing from what I remember just as feedback for supersheep's Sim Sasuke while he was in the process of making it. You making this thread is nothing compared to other things we've seen on this forum.
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Post by The Chief on Aug 3, 2011 14:20:21 GMT -5
My mistake, I've just now started posting on this board, I've been a long time fan of this show, so I'm not really completely familiar with all the buzzing topics. x) dude, if you knew every discussion in the Sim Sasuke forum, you would probably have that condition that allows you to remember everything. Seriously, that thread it over 100 pages long.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Aug 3, 2011 14:20:24 GMT -5
How come TAS was disqualified, and didn't fail the pipe slider
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Post by bigblind168 on Aug 3, 2011 14:22:10 GMT -5
it came off the tracks
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Aug 3, 2011 16:02:38 GMT -5
My mistake, I've just now started posting on this board, I've been a long time fan of this show, so I'm not really completely familiar with all the buzzing topics. x) dude, if you knew every discussion in the Sim Sasuke forum, you would probably have that condition that allows you to remember everything. Seriously, that thread it over 100 pages long. Okay? I just now discovered this whole website, I just wanted to join to share my fun and enjoyment on this thread, I'm not gonna pay attention to every single topic I see.
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Post by supersheep on Aug 3, 2011 19:03:21 GMT -5
Yes in Sim Sasuke TAS almost always out performs PAT. PAT let's face it, except for 17 he's never really done anything. TAS almost made the final stage, and was one of only 5 to reach the rope climb in 5. To me, thats a much better showing.
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Post by supersheep on Aug 3, 2011 19:10:27 GMT -5
My mistake, I've just now started posting on this board, I've been a long time fan of this show, so I'm not really completely familiar with all the buzzing topics. x) dude, if you knew every discussion in the Sim Sasuke forum, you would probably have that condition that allows you to remember everything. Seriously, that thread it over 100 pages long. Maybe that's elephant52's secret? LOL
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Post by YoDaUO on Aug 3, 2011 22:09:58 GMT -5
TAS cleared the cliff hanger! PAT didn't get 2 feet :/
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Post by elephant52 on Aug 3, 2011 22:21:21 GMT -5
Schraeder, if he was competing when Terek was would most likely not be doing any better in the 1st or 2nd stage and will probably do worse in the 3rd stage. Paul's decathlete experience does make him more apt to clear obstacles that center on leg strength such as the Circle Slider and Body Prop. Travis's cliffhanger clear does not look that impressive when the Super Vault, Propeller Bars, and Arm Bike are significantly easier than the Rumbling Dice, Body Prop, and Curtain Cling, than what Terek dealed with before his attempt at the cliffhanger. Travis was also quite lucky that he did not have to raise his finger tips to a higher ledge. Paul would have been able to clear the Cliffhanger if the the ledges were exactly like Sasuke 4. Schraeder's rope climb time out in the 5th tournament does not give him an edge either since Paul would have been the competitor with the biggest advantage since he leaped to the top of the jump hang in 17 and his 6 foot 3 height give him a huge advantage for for the smallest version of the warped wall. Paul's first stage failures are also quite respectable considering he failed the 19 jumping spider, and the 22 slider jump. Even though he failed the slider jump again in 24, Terek still did better than 85 of the competitors.
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Post by Badalight on Aug 3, 2011 22:29:38 GMT -5
Are you guys kidding? PAT cleared the freaking body prop AND the Curtain Cling. Lets see TAS do that.
Considering how freaking heavy PAT is, do you know how amazing that is? Yeah he fell almost immediately on the cliff-hanger, probably because he was drained from those 2 incredibly hard obstacles. In-fact, the curtain cling IMO is harder than the old cliff-hanger (And I have a better say in this since I've built both of them).
TAS technically got further but the only amazing thing he did was beat the Cliff-hanger. Considering that was really the only thing he did, PAT is much better. I'm pretty sure if PAT faced the cliff-hanger at the start of Sasuke 17, he could've done it just fine. He was just too drained after 2 extremely hard obstacles which were made even harder by his size.
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Post by supersheep on Aug 3, 2011 23:07:35 GMT -5
PAT extreme size does good things and bad things. Body prop it's very helpful, you get more leverage. Curtain cling its also helpful, you get more grip with your hands and legs Cliffhanger, it sucks royally. So you give and take.
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