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Post by cole77000 on Mar 30, 2011 20:57:51 GMT -5
I think the reason they used the circle slider was to just get the guys off the salmon ladder. The ladder is a pretty tricky obstacle to fit into a course becuaue it goes from a to b which are points right on top of each other. I'm pretty sure that is why they had a trampoline going into it as well (I'm pretty sure they didnt want to do the whole moving floating mat thing at ANW). And as far as third stage obstacles go, they should have too many on a timed course. I think the only third stage obstacle that you could fit into a timed run is the jumping bars because it also has to be a relatively simple motion with that "wow" factor in it as well.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 30, 2011 23:07:48 GMT -5
Well I mean they didn't have to make it that high and far from the platform or the drop to the trampoline, they could have just had it lower to start with.
Also I think Cliffhangers versions 1, 2 and 3 could work well on a timed course, If someone is having trouble with those are they even ready for Midoriyama?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 23:09:36 GMT -5
Yeah I think a Jump Hang would be exciting in ANW, but they should add it when the Rope Swing gets stale.
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Post by Oti on Mar 30, 2011 23:33:13 GMT -5
They already have essentially the Jump Hang in the form of the Jumping Bars. I also like the Rope Swing. There's a surprising amount of technique required for that.
No idea what my ideal course would be for ANW. There'd be three courses, though.
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Post by thebobmaster on Mar 31, 2011 2:09:26 GMT -5
Technically they called it the Circle Slider but yeah, What they could have done was make the Salmon Ladder not as high up and you jump from lower and just have an Unstable Bridge there. Didn't only one person (Brian) fail the Circle Slider anyways? And that was just from messing up jumping to it *ANW2/Sasuke 26 spoilers below* True. My main thinking for including the Roulette Cylinder is that the 4 Americans who made it to the third stage in the 26th tournament, half of them failed on the first two obstacles. With Brian, it was probably a fluke. However, Paul may have been more of a lack of really preparing for the third stage, and the strength required. In the ANW2, all they really had to prepare them for the third stage was a rough approximation of the strength draining aspect, hard to get right, and an outdated Cliffhanger. The rest were stage 1 and 2 obstacles. Maybe I'm just assuming an incorrect idea, but I feel that introducing more stage 3 obstacles, on top of the stamina draining aspects, could better prepare the contestants. |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 31, 2011 2:23:01 GMT -5
all they really had to prepare them for the third stage was a rough approximation of the strength draining aspect, hard to get right, and an outdated Cliffhanger. The rest were stage 1 and 2 obstacles. Maybe I'm just assuming an incorrect idea, but I feel that introducing more stage 3 obstacles, on top of the stamina draining aspects, could better prepare the contestants. Well that'd be better for Boot Camp, and they did have the Floating Board there, David said they used it but it got cut from the TV broadcast (I think it was a mix of being slow to watch and not effecting the outcome) |
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Post by thebobmaster on Mar 31, 2011 3:55:57 GMT -5
all they really had to prepare them for the third stage was a rough approximation of the strength draining aspect, hard to get right, and an outdated Cliffhanger. The rest were stage 1 and 2 obstacles. Maybe I'm just assuming an incorrect idea, but I feel that introducing more stage 3 obstacles, on top of the stamina draining aspects, could better prepare the contestants. Well that'd be better for Boot Camp, and they did have the Floating Board there, David said they used it but it got cut from the TV broadcast (I think it was a mix of being slow to watch and not effecting the outcome) Ah, didn't know about the Floating Boards. And you're right, it would be better for Boot Camp, not the main tryouts. Actually, come to think of it, why not just have all the obstacles in Boot Camp be stage 3 obstacles, both past and present? That way, they could reserve the tryouts for stage 1 and 2 obstacles, and use the Boot Camp to test whether they could handle the fatigue on Stage 3 obstacles. |
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Post by cole77000 on Mar 31, 2011 5:52:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure that would help much. The boot camp was more for obstacle technique. It was good having obstacles there like the DSL and the warped wall cause it got the compeititors more comfortable on them. I don't think there would be much improvement on 3rd stage obstacles becasue you can't really learn upper body endurance in a week. Of course it would be good help, but with the third stage its either you got it or you don't IMO.
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Post by Oti on Mar 31, 2011 20:32:37 GMT -5
Most third stage obstacles have technique, and proper technique can save you a lot of energy in the long run. You're right about the duration, though. A week isn't much training-wise, for endurance or technique.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 31, 2011 20:39:38 GMT -5
For the Floating Board it was there:  For the boot camp thing: Well that's just it, they didn't have perfect replicas there, so they didn't really help with technique all that much.. All I can really see is the Soritatsu Kabe Warped Wall (Damn it.. It was G4's made version so I have to call it that) and maybe the Double Salmon Ladder helping with a normal Salmon Ladder.. their Balance Tank was too round and people could just half-a** it, the Cliffhanger was set up weird and looked like they were angled down on top so you could reach over, the Double Salmon Ladder had the gap too close, Slider Jump was just ANW1's Pipe Slider with a big net, "Warped Wall" was OK but the runup inside it seemed a bit long (Then again they said it's higher so I guess that evens out, but for technique you want accuracy) Floating Board I'll give them that one.. Most third stage obstacles have technique, and proper technique can save you a lot of energy in the long run. You're right about the duration, though. A week isn't much training-wise, for endurance or technique. Only Stage 3 obstacle currently on the course that isn't all that technique oriented I can think of is the Ultimate Cliffhanger since the main difficulty is just hanging so long, but even then technique still plays a big part (Knowing when to reach, how to cross the gaps effectively, the old jump technique). The "Swing Circle" and "Flying Bar" Seem to be a mix of being to hold on and how to swing them effectively without throwing off your momentum as you jump. Roulette Cylinder has a trick as David and Okuyama proved, Doorknob Grasper seems to have technique, Cycling Road is getting through it effectively, and "Umbilical Cord" seems like it'd be technique to make the most of moving through the ropes |
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Jun 19, 2014 18:24:05 GMT -5
NBCSN is running a marathon right now, Thursday 6/19, from 7pm-3am.
There's another marathon scheduled for next week, same times.
I remember Alison Haislip being the best. I just didn't remember how much better she was until I saw her hosting again. Alison puts her replacements to shame.
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Post by Sasuke Mania on Jul 13, 2014 17:54:59 GMT -5
NBCSN is running a marathon right now, Thursday 6/19, from 7pm-3am. There's another marathon scheduled for next week, same times. I remember Alison Haislip being the best. I just didn't remember how much better she was until I saw her hosting again. Alison puts her replacements to shame. Dang It! I wish I could go back in time to then and watch it on NBCSN! |
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