So, should they get rid of the UCH?

[Badalight]

To be fair, even though the cycling road wasn't all that hard, the reach up to the 3rd wheel looked pretty tough, and with the increase in difficulty for the first obstacle combo it would be REALLY unfair to keep the floating boards.

I DID say that lars, but only with the expectation that people like Yuuji would get to the later stages. I didn't forsee only 2 non american attempts at the UCH, so you can't blame me for that. Once I saw only Lee and Okuyama were in stage 3 I believed the tourney would end there.

Key point, Sasuke is unpredictable.

[lars072]

Jan 3, 2011 0:09:40 GMT -5 Badalight said:

To be fair, even though the cycling road wasn't all that hard, the reach up to the 3rd wheel looked pretty tough, and with the increase in difficulty for the first obstacle combo it would be REALLY unfair to keep the floating boards.

I DID say that lars, but only with the expectation that people like Yuuji would get to the later stages. I didn't forsee only 2 non american attempts at the UCH, so you can't blame me for that. Once I saw only Lee and Okuyama were in stage 3 I believed the tourney would end there.

Key point, Sasuke is unpredictable.

[Badalight]

So you made a very safe prediction and were right. You are amazing. You are so great.

At least I have some optimism in my life.

Anyway, the UCH should stay. I think if more stronger and prepared competitors got to it, it could've been beaten. I really wanted to see Yuuji and Koji take it on considering they practice on it so much.

Lee has pretty strong fingers considering all of the rock climbing he does, but he doesn't do all that much Sasuke specific training it seems. Okuyama was a pleasant surprise for as far as he got considering his replica is just a single ledge.

I figured none of the americans would have a shot except for David. After seeing some of paul's videos I thought he'd at least get to the UCH. Brent was also a nice surprise.

I think it's definitely beatable though. This situation isn't any different than the shin-cliffhanger which took forever to conquer.

[supersheep]

Okuyama has practiced the UCH, he trains with Shinya sometimes at his house. I knew he had a chance because he at least knew HOW to do it, but I did'nt think he had the endurance.

[Badalight]

I do feel like Okuyama was one of the most determined though. It also didn't seem like he let the pressure get to him.

[arsenette]

lars.. they argue with David who was AT the course and did what he did and got further than most of the tournament.. Remember.. they have their own ideas of what this course is like in their minds Let is go.. you'll have an aneurysm

[lars072]

Jan 3, 2011 3:10:59 GMT -5 arsenette said:

lars.. they argue with David who was AT the course and did what he did and got further than most of the tournament.. Remember.. they have their own ideas of what this course is like in their minds Let is go.. you'll have an aneurysm

I know I know... damn hormones! I wil have to deal with this in 7 years...

[intelligentinfer]

Keep it. I have nothing to say.

[roy]

A few people said it was beatable.

And the SCH went a grand total of two tournaments uncleared. 18 and 20 before Takeda's clear in 21( no one reached stage 3 in 19).

edit: and I want it to stay.

[Deleted]

My mouth is closed on this one. Keep it.

[Badalight]

Jan 3, 2011 3:10:59 GMT -5 arsenette said:

lars.. they argue with David who was AT the course and did what he did and got further than most of the tournament.. Remember.. they have their own ideas of what this course is like in their minds Let is go.. you'll have an aneurysm

What are you even talking about? Being optimistic that it will be beaten is ignorant? Ask David, I doubt he'd say it was unbeatable like Lars is saying.

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Jan 3, 2011 10:56:08 GMT -5 Badalight said:

Jan 3, 2011 3:10:59 GMT -5 arsenette said:

lars.. they argue with David who was AT the course and did what he did and got further than most of the tournament.. Remember.. they have their own ideas of what this course is like in their minds Let is go.. you'll have an aneurysm

What are you even talking about? Being optimistic that it will be beaten is ignorant? Ask David, I doubt he'd say it was unbeatable like Lars is saying.

But David didn't beat it...


Bro, he HAS AN EXACT REPLICA OF IT AT HIS HOUSE.

And he didn't beat it.


Okuyama TRAINS FOR A REPLICA OF IT AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

And he didn't beat it.


Lee rock climbs religiously, his video are freaking amazing. His grip, upper body skills, are amazing.

And he didn't beat it.


3 of the best trained people couldn't beat the obstacle. I don't get why we keep saying "OH NO NONE OF THE GUD GUYS GONE YET!@!!" when 3 of the arguably best have tried, two have tried TWICE now.

You guys have been into too much Sim Sasuke or Stickman Sasuke, and have lost touch with reality, and thankfully I'm almost 100% sure they will once again lesson the difficulty for 27.

[cole77000]

Jan 3, 2011 17:04:16 GMT -5 @jpjuice23 said:

Jan 3, 2011 10:56:08 GMT -5 Badalight said:

What are you even talking about? Being optimistic that it will be beaten is ignorant? Ask David, I doubt he'd say it was unbeatable like Lars is saying.

But David didn't beat it...


Bro, he HAS AN EXACT REPLICA OF IT AT HIS HOUSE.

And he didn't beat it.


Okuyama TRAINS FOR A REPLICA OF IT AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

And he didn't beat it.


Lee rock climbs religiously, his video are freaking amazing. His grip, upper body skills, are amazing.

And he didn't beat it.


3 of the best trained people couldn't beat the obstacle. I don't get why we keep saying "OH NO NONE OF THE GUD GUYS GONE YET!@!!" when 3 of the arguably best have tried, two have tried TWICE now.

You guys have been into too much Sim Sasuke or Stickman Sasuke, and have lost touch with reality, and thankfully I'm almost 100% sure they will once again lesson the difficulty for 27.

I agree. There guys are some of the best we have and they didn't make it to the last two ledges. This is much different from the shin-cliffhanger because we didn't have promising guys attempting it after seeing it until Sasuke 21.
I'm not saying its unbeatable, its totally possible, but this is just too difficult of an obstacle to have if TBS wants any good ratings. Lets not forget there is another entire half of a third stage left IF someone clears this thing. Very few understand that there are long-term effects of the UCH in the third stage too.

[Oti]

Calling BS on that, JP.

Bada is right in using David as an argument because he proves the UCH isn't unbeatable (as do the UNCLI people and that kid in Finland). David failed because his endurance was lacking, something I'm sure he'll work on.

I also disagree that they are three of the best trained people. They're all great competitors without a doubt, but none of them can fly around on replicas like the UNCLI members do. My money's on them for sure, granted one of them actually gets to stage three. The UNCLI guys are the ones best-suited for the second and third stages, not David, Brian or even Levi.

I hope they don't make the UCH easier and I don't think they will. There's no reason to. Besides, it's building a good reputation for itself. Now it'll be a great victory when someone beats it.

Also, I'm pretty sure they have someone who runs through every stage to make sure it's beatable in the time limit (or at all, in the case of the third stage). If this is true, someone's already beaten stage three.

[cole77000]

Jan 3, 2011 17:12:54 GMT -5 Oti said:

Calling BS on that, JP.

Bada is right in using David as an argument because he proves the UCH isn't unbeatable (as do the UNCLI people and that kid in Finland). David failed because his endurance was lacking, something I'm sure he'll work on.

I also disagree that they are three of the best trained people. They're all great competitors without a doubt, but none of them can fly around on replicas like the UNCLI members do. My money's on them for sure, granted one of them actually gets to stage three. The UNCLI guys are the ones best-suited for the second and third stages, not David, Brian or even Levi.

I hope they don't make the UCH easier and I don't think they will. There's no reason to. Besides, it's building a good reputation for itself. Now it'll be a great victory when someone beats it.

Also, I'm pretty sure they have someone who runs through every stage to make sure it's beatable in the time limit (or at all, in the case of the third stage). If this is true, someone's already beaten stage three.

I agree with you. The UNCLI would own that thing. Unfortunately, there are only a few of them and only one of them has gotten anywhere close to the UCH. The UCH is possible, but there are very few who could consistantly clear it with the added fatigue of the first three obstacles.

[arsenette]

Can't believe I agree 100% with Oti but there it is I think a lot of people on this board sees Sasuke in a vacuum and not as an event where you are jet lagged and standing in a friggin' open field for about 18 hours...

[cole77000]

Umm I wouldn't say 100 percent Arsenette lol. I agree that the UNCLI would own it but I am skeptical that those few will get there in the first place; Yuuji is the only one who has gotten to stage 2 >_>.

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Jan 3, 2011 17:12:54 GMT -5 Oti said:

Calling BS on that, JP.

Bada is right in using David as an argument because he proves the UCH isn't unbeatable (as do the UNCLI people and that kid in Finland). David failed because his endurance was lacking, something I'm sure he'll work on.

I also disagree that they are three of the best trained people. They're all great competitors without a doubt, but none of them can fly around on replicas like the UNCLI members do. My money's on them for sure, granted one of them actually gets to stage three. The UNCLI guys are the ones best-suited for the second and third stages, not David, Brian or even Levi.

The UNCLI guys are great, granted, but they haven't made it there yet. The UNCLI guys (Besides one of course) seemed to over train on one thing, and not train on others. Until they can prove to the world that they are capable of even making it to the obstacle, you shouldn't assume that these are the guys for the job.

I hope they don't make the UCH easier and I don't think they will. There's no reason to. Besides, it's building a good reputation for itself. Now it'll be a great victory when someone beats it.

It's already different from the original version, most people didn't mind. I'm sure if they made it even easier, people still wouldn't care. I doubt most people will notice a change in gaps between the last 2 ledges if they made that easier. So, if were talking about reputation for the obstacle, no reputation is changed even if the obstacle is. M9 knows this, and if we know M9, we know they will make it easier.

Also, I'm pretty sure they have someone who runs through every stage to make sure it's beatable in the time limit (or at all, in the case of the third stage). If this is true, someone's already beaten stage three.

They do, and for that, you are right. But these guys have access to the course. I mean, they have the tools neccessary to beat these obstacle, most people don't.

[cole77000]

Jan 3, 2011 17:25:22 GMT -5 @jpjuice23 said:

Also, I'm pretty sure they have someone who runs through every stage to make sure it's beatable in the time limit (or at all, in the case of the third stage). If this is true, someone's already beaten stage three.

They do, and for that, you are right. But these guys have access to the course. I mean, they have the tools neccessary to beat these obstacle, most people don't.

I'm pretty sure they have different testers for each of the Third Stage obstacles. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I think I remember Luci Romberg saying at some point that they had a seperate tester for the Final Ring by itself back a few tournaments.

[arsenette]

They rotate them to keep them fresh.

And as for UNCLI.. people love omitting "Yuuji" as somehow he's not part of the group.. LOL