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Post by mikessssssss on Nov 28, 2010 9:24:55 GMT -5
Pressure on that scale would be tough to handle i suppose. Imagine being one of the only handful that got to the cliffhanger; couple nerves and pressure with expectation and the effect can be draining. That said i really think if Yuuji gets there he could do it.
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Post by Badalight on Nov 28, 2010 14:26:16 GMT -5
Pressure on that scale would be tough to handle i suppose. Imagine being one of the only handful that got to the cliffhanger; couple nerves and pressure with expectation and the effect can be draining. That said i really think if Yuuji gets there he could do it. It depends on the person. I excel under pressure, makes me do a LOT better just like I described above. I know for some people it hurts them, but don't make a generalization. Not that I could beat the UCH or anything, but I guarantee I'd do better if I was on the actual show rather than playing around on a replica in my backyard.
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Post by mikessssssss on Nov 28, 2010 19:30:18 GMT -5
I wasn't generalizing seeing as i didn't conclude anything. I don't doubt that people are great under pressure, that's obvious. Still, the pressure and expectation Nagano must be under when he steps out is insane; that is alot to handle. If i was on the show, other than failing, id have no pressure because there is no real expectation; which is the complete opposite for Nagano.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Nov 28, 2010 20:39:41 GMT -5
I wasn't generalizing seeing as i didn't conclude anything. I don't doubt that people are great under pressure, that's obvious. Still, the pressure and expectation Nagano must be under when he steps out is insane; that is alot to handle. If i was on the show, other than failing, id have no pressure because there is no real expectation; which is the complete opposite for Nagano. You ain't kidding. This was a disaster particularly in #24, expectations must have really hurt Nagano (once he fell, that is) and it practically killed Takeda. Kanno & his high number was no exception. (I wouldn't go this far off subject otherwise, but the thread's called bored poll, so eh)
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Post by arsenette on Nov 29, 2010 5:34:34 GMT -5
I wasn't generalizing seeing as i didn't conclude anything. I don't doubt that people are great under pressure, that's obvious. Still, the pressure and expectation Nagano must be under when he steps out is insane; that is alot to handle. If i was on the show, other than failing, id have no pressure because there is no real expectation; which is the complete opposite for Nagano. You ain't kidding. This was a disaster particularly in #24, expectations must have really hurt Nagano (once he fell, that is) and it practically killed Takeda. Kanno & his high number was no exception. (I wouldn't go this far off subject otherwise, but the thread's called bored poll, so eh) Reminds me of Shingo as well whenever he starts the first stage simply because he's been in EVERY tournament and he says every tourney it gets worse and worse for him regardless of how good/bad people do before him... that's why he always wants lower numbers.. to get it over with.. LOL My heart STILL goes out to Takeda for imploding in 24... For those who haven't been there as long as the vets.. I don't believe they really can understand how it plays with your mind.. especially if you are "featured" as almost a guarantee to the 3rd stage or even to win it... I honestly think it's worse for those who HAVE potential and keep failing.. everyone willing someone to win is more pressure for someone like Takeda. Heck.. even Kenji had a HUGE celebration when he got to the final in Sasuke 24 because he's been there just as long as Takeda.. 10 years..
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Post by awee1975 on Nov 29, 2010 8:22:31 GMT -5
#1- i think Yuuji has the highest chance along with Ryo ( assuming he can get so far ). #2- Li En Zhi ( i see you prefer the new Hanyu Pinyin spelling ) based on his most recent performance. #2- Nagano always has amazing grip ( his biggest issue now is stage 1 & 2 ). #3- Tajima also has amazing grip but same problem as Nagano ( see above ). Somehow, i think the others need more time to train for it, probably only able to clear it in the next tournament.
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Post by japantv1210 on Nov 29, 2010 14:54:25 GMT -5
I voted Urushihara. I feel he has the best shot to get there and beat it. I also think Nagano could beat it as well, but it is alot different than the other Cliffhangers. I feel that Kenji Takahashi has a pretty good shot at it as well. Even though he looked pretty poor on it in 25, he seems to have been training alot to beat it, and I feel his technique would help him overcome the fatigue aspect of the obstacle.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Nov 29, 2010 16:41:36 GMT -5
You ain't kidding. This was a disaster particularly in #24, expectations must have really hurt Nagano (once he fell, that is) and it practically killed Takeda. Kanno & his high number was no exception. (I wouldn't go this far off subject otherwise, but the thread's called bored poll, so eh) Reminds me of Shingo as well whenever he starts the first stage simply because he's been in EVERY tournament and he says every tourney it gets worse and worse for him regardless of how good/bad people do before him... that's why he always wants lower numbers.. to get it over with.. LOL My heart STILL goes out to Takeda for imploding in 24... For those who haven't been there as long as the vets.. I don't believe they really can understand how it plays with your mind.. especially if you are "featured" as almost a guarantee to the 3rd stage or even to win it... I honestly think it's worse for those who HAVE potential and keep failing.. everyone willing someone to win is more pressure for someone like Takeda. Heck.. even Kenji had a HUGE celebration when he got to the final in Sasuke 24 because he's been there just as long as Takeda.. 10 years.. Kenji's been more under the radar and not prominently featured like Toshihiro, he's simply had more success than Kenji (on an annual basis.) I think that made it easier for Takahashi to make it to the final. This January will be the year mark since we first saw the most emotional Sasuke stage result, a video is coming.
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Post by SRW on Nov 29, 2010 19:34:47 GMT -5
whats that?
My most emotional was seeing Nagano denied KZ in 23 when he should have really got it done (various factors stopped it) & then his fall in 24 was heartbreaking!
Takedas stage 3 fail was pretty sad but he bottled it really! well I always felt he did!
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Post by yamfriend on Nov 29, 2010 21:12:50 GMT -5
whats that? My most emotional was seeing Nagano denied KZ in 23 when he should have really got it done (various factors stopped it) & then his fall in 24 was heartbreaking! Takedas stage 3 fail was pretty sad but he bottled it really! well I always felt he did! Both are sad, but at least Nagano's won already and made it to the Final Stage 5 times. Takeda's been to Stage 3 13 times, more than anyone else, yet has been denied entrance to the Final Stage each time. 24 was probably his last big chance to finally pass it, and if it wasn't bad enough that he failed it yet again, it was dragged out for a while. Also, the atmosphere/intro beforehand of 5 consecutive clears prior to his run probably gave everyone (including us) the great feeling that he was finally going to beat Stage 3, and then all of those hopes were crushed slowly, making it all the more sad.
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Post by SRW on Nov 30, 2010 3:14:37 GMT -5
It just feels like Takeda and the final stage just aren't meant to be! =/
In terms of staying relevent to the question here and Takeda I personally think he has NO chance of beating stage 3 now. Cannot ever see him doing the UCH in all honesty =/.
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Post by intelligentinfer on Dec 6, 2010 4:09:29 GMT -5
Lee and Nagano.
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Post by UnrealCanine on Dec 6, 2010 12:44:32 GMT -5
The people with UCH replicas remind me of the England penelty curse.
England always loses on penelties. So they practice. Then lose. Why?
Cause they practice at the start of the session. In a competition they'd be tired when penelties start.
It's all good beating your UCH replica, but try it out on a winter night after a jog
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Post by Oti on Dec 6, 2010 15:19:45 GMT -5
You're far from the first person to consider that. Most of use train while fresh and tired.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2010 15:41:58 GMT -5
Do every obstacle with like 30 pounds of weight on you, while it's cold, and after you've ran a mile or sprinted a considerable distance. Than train on your obstacles. Although all I have is monkey bars with a half assed cliffhanger (Just a ledge really) on the side, it's still fun to train on my obstacles this way, with the added difficulty.
Way better this way. Not to mention when you can fly through the obstacles when your fresh, that's fun too.
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Post by Oti on Dec 8, 2010 1:58:18 GMT -5
That's... interesting... I don't recommend any of that unless you can already complete an obstacle fairly easily, though. Muscle memory and all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 17:35:16 GMT -5
That's... interesting... I don't recommend any of that unless you can already complete an obstacle fairly easily, though. Muscle memory and all. Why not, I prefer to do things the hard way, so when it comes time to do the real thing, I feel light weight.
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Post by Oti on Dec 8, 2010 18:07:41 GMT -5
If you can't do the obstacle easily, your body hasn't learned it yet. Making it even harder with weights, rain, etc. will only make you worse, which teaches your body to do the obstacle poorly, Eventually, after many hours of practice, you'll be able to do the obstacle, but just barely and in much more time than it would've taken you to learn it the normal way.
Learn to conquer obstacles normally first, that way you know you've developed the proper neural pathways. AFTER you know how to do it with good form, increase the difficulty to continue improving.
It just seems like a more natural progression of things.
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