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Post by jfeathe on Jan 2, 2011 9:53:23 GMT -5
Very interesting indeed. After watching ANW, I thought the results would have been much better than they were. Who would have ever thought the Americans-10% of the competitors- would have made up 50% of stage 2 and 2/3 of stage 3?
They honestly need to replicate G4 and find some better people. When it comes to "good" competitors, it was the same people which is frankly getting stale.
Overall, I really didn't like the editing at all. They fast-forwarded nearly every American run which was so stupid especially since they made up most of the clears. They dragged on Nagano's and Yuuji's runs in the first stage which was pointless considering their result.
The first stage shouldn't have carried on for that long. Showing the later stages in their entirety would have been much more entertaining. With that being said, I thouroughly enjoyed the celebrity/ joke/ regular person portion of stage 1. They got a wonderful mix and made it very interesting.
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Post by jfeathe on Jan 2, 2011 9:55:46 GMT -5
I have a bad feeling that SASUKE 26 just sealed SASUKE's future.
4 out of 6 Third Stage competitors being American, almost every Japanese star failing the First Stage, and nobody especially flashy making it deep this time around. There is no way that will translate to ratings.
Other observations:
Yay for Iketani, I had a feeling that was him on the commercial, but cool nonetheless.
Same goes for Ishikawa, I knew he probably wasn't going to the Third Stage, but still a fine performance.
I can't believe Hashimoto failed the Metal Spin. That was quite literally the one obstacle I thought he couldn't fail.
And, my computer went nutty for about 5 minutes in the middle, so maybe I missed it, but did anyone see Tajima or Sato Jun? Kinda weird to omit half of the Shin Sedai if they weren't in that little block.
All in all, I thought it was a good SASUKE, not great. I like unpredictability, but that was just crazy in every aspect.
My hope is that the celebrities (read: EXILE member) brought in the big numbers. It could literally take one big name to boost the ratings.
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Post by chackpop on Jan 2, 2011 9:56:02 GMT -5
They went straight from 29 to 61 and the 66 to 80 lol
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jan 2, 2011 9:58:09 GMT -5
Yeah they did. On another note the Octopus had his best result yet! I was shocked at the amount of determination he had on the... SECOND OBSTACLE
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Post by ansem120 on Jan 2, 2011 9:58:21 GMT -5
I have a bad feeling that SASUKE 26 just sealed SASUKE's future.
4 out of 6 Third Stage competitors being American, almost every Japanese star failing the First Stage, and nobody especially flashy making it deep this time around. There is no way that will translate to ratings.
Other observations:
Yay for Iketani, I had a feeling that was him on the commercial, but cool nonetheless.
Same goes for Ishikawa, I knew he probably wasn't going to the Third Stage, but still a fine performance.
I can't believe Hashimoto failed the Metal Spin. That was quite literally the one obstacle I thought he couldn't fail.
And, my computer went nutty for about 5 minutes in the middle, so maybe I missed it, but did anyone see Tajima or Sato Jun? Kinda weird to omit half of the Shin Sedai if they weren't in that little block.
All in all, I thought it was a good SASUKE, not great. I like unpredictability, but that was just crazy in every aspect.
My hope is that the celebrities (read: EXILE member) brought in the big numbers. It could literally take one big name to boost the ratings. I understand that, but what message is conveyed to the higher-ups if the first hour got a 15%, then the second and third hours got a 6-7%?
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Post by SRW on Jan 2, 2011 9:59:57 GMT -5
Nagano - Owned Yuuji - Owned Kanno - Owned Hashimoto - Owned Kongu - Owned Shingo - Owned America did well but ultimatly - Ownd - Japan in general Owned - Taiwan the star but owned!
Lee and Okuyama stole the show! Ultimate cliffhanger unbeaten again Was crazy but I fear ratings!
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Post by paulmcicetea on Jan 2, 2011 10:01:00 GMT -5
where were Akiyama and Takeda? are they injured?
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Post by arsenette on Jan 2, 2011 10:01:48 GMT -5
where were Akiyama and Takeda? are they injured? TBS marked them as "unable to appear". Scheduling problems is what I was told when I asked around.
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Post by paulmcicetea on Jan 2, 2011 10:07:23 GMT -5
where were Akiyama and Takeda? are they injured? TBS marked them as "unable to appear". Scheduling problems is what I was told when I asked around. thank you
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Post by GregPuciato on Jan 2, 2011 16:13:54 GMT -5
regarding the success of the americans - i'm all for getting the best possible performances on the show, but i don't really dig how G4 did it.
i totally understand that they want their picks to be as successful as possible, but the whole boot camp thing was a lot more preparation than the other competitors got. shouldn't everybody be on an even playing field? just a thought.
I guess this is probably a smart move on G4's part (even though i hated ANW2), but we don't want the SASUKE ratings to go down in Japan! hopefully next time the first stage won't kill so many heavy-hitters.
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Post by arsenette on Jan 2, 2011 16:36:55 GMT -5
Btw it seems TBS is hopeful about the ratings. They tweeted that Okuyama was trending today. LOL
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Post by UnrealCanine on Jan 2, 2011 16:40:19 GMT -5
regarding the success of the americans - i'm all for getting the best possible performances on the show, but i don't really dig how G4 did it. i totally understand that they want their picks to be as successful as possible, but the whole boot camp thing was a lot more preparation than the other competitors got. shouldn't everybody be on an even playing field? just a thought. I guess this is probably a smart move on G4's part (even though i hated ANW2), but we don't want the SASUKE ratings to go down in Japan! hopefully next time the first stage won't kill so many heavy-hitters. no... if someone prepares harder then another for the same task, he deserves to go further
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Post by arsenette on Jan 2, 2011 16:50:34 GMT -5
There is no "deserve".. this is a friggin' game show not the Olympics. I agree with Greg. Part of the magic of Sasuke is normal people doing the course. Again I'm not knocking the Americans.. those poor bastards had to jump through hoops just to GET to Japan. And that was no fault of their own.. that was all G4. TBS has 2 options.. either step up Sasuke Trials to match the ANW or even out the entries to bring it back to how it used to be. I don't want people to start ragging on the competitors.. especially the Americans who didn't control how the hell they got here.
That said.. it's a Japanese show aimed at the Japanese audience. It's up to them to figure out if this is what they like overall. Personally it's the TBS editing I'm having issues with this time. G4 didn't help here in how the separated the Americans but that shouldn't be part of the equation for Japan ratings. They don't get G4 (thank goodness LOL).. we'll see in a couple days.
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Post by yamfriend on Jan 2, 2011 18:53:09 GMT -5
but we don't want the SASUKE ratings to go down in Japan! hopefully next time the first stage won't kill so many heavy-hitters. Let's hope we GET another First Stage. Because in all honesty, the atmosphere enthusiasm-wise just seemed different this time around. It didn't seem like people (M9 and TBS included) didn't really care much about it compared to even just a few tournaments ago. Hopefully the ratings are good enough to keep Sasuke alive... Also congrats to Okuyama especially. Not only did he save Japan's Stage 3 hopes in this tournament as well as (along with Li) getting the farthest in the tournament, but IIRC he became the first person in their 40s to ever reach Stage 3. IMO he got the gold medal this tournament for a great performance. Mr. Octopus is another honorable mention though.
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Post by gtoneko on Jan 2, 2011 20:42:29 GMT -5
....crazy......just.....crazy.
One thing is definitely for sure about this tournament, the new obstacle, Rolling Escargot, is the newest equalizer in thinning out competitors. I mean, to just see how what seems like (I'm taking a hard guess on this) roughly 2/3 of the competition. Even if not completely eliminating them, it does have a lingering affect; Yamada Katsumi and Urushihar Yuuji as a prime example.
Even though they didn't show all of the American runs, even 2 of them got knocked out by the Rolling Escargot, so no doubt that the R.E is now the new Rolling Maruta/Log.
All in all, definitely a crazy showing for the latest tournament, but one that I know that everyone who participated have received a HUGE wake-up call for what needs to be done.
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Post by artyfowljr on Jan 3, 2011 8:54:32 GMT -5
My reaction to Sasuke 26 overall was: Is this happening for real?Am I going to wake up and find out it's still New Year's and it's all a dream? Seriously. I still can't believe it, especially for the 1st stage. It definitely feels like one of my messy Sasuke dreams. AS for the American succes, IMO it's up to M9 and TBS now. Either they give USA less slots, or they make the Trials bigger and tougher. I don't feel great saying this, because I love all the American guys, I really do and I want them to do great, and there's nothing they can do about G4/M9/TBS's mess. But if watching a tournament with little Japanese success feels awkward for me - a foreigner, Italian, who's been watching the show for only something like 2 years-, just imagine how awkward it feels for the Japanese audience; and we can all agree that ratings must NOT go down. That said, I'm anxious to see the actual ratings for 26. I'm hopeful though, especially with all the EXILE promotion.
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Post by theitalianrob on Jan 3, 2011 13:26:44 GMT -5
i agree that tbs/m9 needs to step up their game on who they get to run the course, the all-stars are getting old and its pretty much a given that nagano and the others arent gonna make it to the third stage again especially with the new obstacles liek the rolling escargot. I think they need to re-design the first stage to be a little simpler like it used to be and then maybe beef up the back end of stage 2 to weed out some of the lesser compeitors.
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Post by slam on Jan 3, 2011 14:08:10 GMT -5
I haven't seen the show yet, but don't we expect that the regulars will build their own versions of the Rolling Escargot at home and be a lot better at it in the next tournament?
And why has there never been a Japanese free runner in the field (to my knowledge)? I remember Brett Sims hanging out with Japanese free runners during his second visit to Japan, so I know they exist.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jan 3, 2011 14:17:23 GMT -5
I haven't seen the show yet, but don't we expect that the regulars will build their own versions of the Rolling Escargot at home and be a lot better at it in the next tournament? And why has there never been a Japanese free runner in the field (to my knowledge)? I remember Brett Sims hanging out with Japanese free runners during his second visit to Japan, so I know they exist. sasukepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Sato_JunAnd besides Jun there was another Parkour guy in 26 who was shown in the Navi but not the whole broadcast, Failed the Rolling Escargot if I remember correctly
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Post by Badalight on Jan 3, 2011 14:17:25 GMT -5
I haven't seen the show yet, but don't we expect that the regulars will build their own versions of the Rolling Escargot at home and be a lot better at it in the next tournament? And why has there never been a Japanese free runner in the field (to my knowledge)? I remember Brett Sims hanging out with Japanese free runners during his second visit to Japan, so I know they exist. There have been multiple throughout the years, but there was at least 2 this tournament. They didn't do very well.
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