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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 18, 2010 19:05:25 GMT -5
I put this in the 25 forum because of some of the obstacles were based on 25 obstacles so if this is in the wrong place feel free to move it
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Jul 18, 2010 21:32:43 GMT -5
I don't get why all of these fan made courses have some form of steps as the first obstacle.
I mean, is it that hard to change up the course a little?
I mean, sasuke 18 was a totaly new course with completely different obstacles. (For the most part)
Why can't we do that again?
All of these obstacles I see in these videos are remakes of older obstacles; some of them not even being that good.
I know I shouldn't be one to talk about originalty and I'm not trying to offend anyone but, weren't we dissapointed with sasuke 25's "new" couse?
How would you guys feel like if we had obstacles added on the course such as "The Downward Jumping bars" or whatever that obstacle was on Stage 2.
Not that original, and certainly not as hard as the real Jumping bars.
Please don't try to start a big dispute over this with me as I really have better things to do than sit at my computor and flame people all day.
Just remember this is only MY opinion.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 18, 2010 22:46:42 GMT -5
Because do you know how hard it is to make a good first obstacle?.. Prism See-Saw, Ensuitobi and Hurdle Jump all failed and the Rope Glider was a Death-Trap.. And if you've actually tried steps like this they're harder than the ones currently on the course.
Aside from a handful of obstacles this is a new course, Granted I have gotten some of my ideas from existing obstacles but they are new versions completely for the most part..
Also it was just called "Jumping Bar", Same name as in Stage 3, But in Stage 2 they're steeper and have one less bar, But on a timed course theres a higher risk of you failing because you were rushing..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 0:36:18 GMT -5
I don't get why all of these fan made courses have some form of steps as the first obstacle. I mean, is it that hard to change up the course a little? I mean, sasuke 18 was a totaly new course with completely different obstacles. (For the most part) Why can't we do that again? All of these obstacles I see in these videos are remakes of older obstacles; some of them not even being that good. I know I shouldn't be one to talk about originalty and I'm not trying to offend anyone but, weren't we dissapointed with sasuke 25's "new" couse? How would you guys feel like if we had obstacles added on the course such as "The Downward Jumping bars" or whatever that obstacle was on Stage 2. Not that original, and certainly not as hard as the real Jumping bars. Please don't try to start a big dispute over this with me as I really have better things to do than sit at my computor and flame people all day. Just remember this is only MY opinion. Lol if you think his is bad you probably shouldn't even bother watching mine >_> Rider, that was alright. I mean, they're were some cool ones, the double circle hammer is pretty damn awesome, and the log tilt is pretty clever, adding a whole dimension to the obstacle itself. And we need to point out, Rider made a nearly entirely new course, not very many people have done that really, so there will be duds here naturally. Also, wtf is up with the final stage >_> Looks awfully familiar. Another great vid Rider, your on a winning streak  |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 19, 2010 1:49:04 GMT -5
Thanks, I will admit that the Rope Lift, Tarzan Swing and Jumping Bar were filler obstacles really but I feel I still did a good job making this course. Which ones did you think were "duds" in particular anyways? Well I don't think I've ever seen that Final Stage in any course vids, If you're saying it's the 17/24 concept art final I will admit that tower did inspire me with the rope transfer aspect but I figured if I completely copied that course it would either be too tall or the ropes would be short so if you know how to ace the transfer you get Kanzenseiha so I figured something out to kill time and drain the competitor's energy before the G-Rope. BTW a couple things I think I forgot to note.. About the Double Steps, Those two steps that look angled are supposed to be angled downwards, that's not just bad drawing. And I wouldn't really recommend that skipping a bunch of holes then doorknob grasper off method on the Pole Reverser, It was just a b**** to animate so I just made the stick figure beast through it (He did so good his head disappeared for one frame  ) |
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Post by SRW on Jul 19, 2010 5:26:27 GMT -5
have you not watched stick man sasuke EP VI? for the final stage you ripped it off just I don't have a spider climb. |
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Post by YoDaUO on Jul 19, 2010 7:36:40 GMT -5
Well, if 4/5 of my obstacles have some flaw, then SORRY. It's not exactly the chain reaction, either. Since that's a few ideas gone, I might as well post some more. Barrel Bridge- Run across a bridge of multiple spinning barrel type things. I don't know but I swear there was something like that on Wipeout.. (And actually the Balance Tank thing was there too.. Except they had 3) I don't even know what you mean.. They showed a double Soritatsu Kabe in the 18 Preview Same topic... Stick Jump- Comes after salmon ladder. Go down a track, jump to a higher track, then land on the platform. Skip to 2:09 in that video.. Should we do that to you now? |
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Post by TCM on Jul 19, 2010 8:15:34 GMT -5
Should we do that to you now?[/quote] I'd stay away from trying to say something even mildly similar to an insult with that warning bar you have. Plus, he said that he took existing obstacles and made (relatively) new obstacles aside from a handful (like the Tarzan Swing which he said he pretty much took it). Plus, in that particular post, you notice Voklo either used impractical (aka unsafe), things many people had already done, or just renamed something. Rider had at least some originality. On topic: Like in the chat I told you I liked the course. As much a dud/filler it is I like the Rope Lift for some weird reason. In Stage 2, my particular favorite is the Running Drop (because Rib Rage is my favorite Wipeout obstacle this season) and in Stage 3 the Sandan Slider. |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 19, 2010 11:11:41 GMT -5
have you not watched stick man sasuke EP VI? for the final stage you ripped it off just I don't have a spider climb. No I haven't... Sorry.. Didn't know.. Guess there are only so many ideas people can think up before someone else has them and you don't even know it.. |
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Post by yamfriend on Jul 19, 2010 11:44:17 GMT -5
I thought that you made a pretty decent course Rider. Sure, a lot of your obstacles incorporate ideas from previously-existing obstacles, but many of them are still pretty good IMO. As a matter of fact, a lot of the obstacles on my courses come from previous obstacles as well, whether they're modifications to old ones, combinations of 2 old ones, or both. If anyone else says something negative about your course overall or anything else along those lines, I'd like to see them make their own course. After all, it's way harder to do than it looks considering how many unique ideas you have to come up with as well as ones that fit each stage properly.
BTW, considering I'm able to get my laptop back again this week after it's finally completely fixed, I'm hoping on getting my third course up soon (i.e. before the end of the month). I've got plenty of unique and feasible ideas for this one. ;D
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Post by supersheep on Jul 19, 2010 13:29:50 GMT -5
I have a new final stage im sure no one has used yet |
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Post by intelligentinfer on Jul 21, 2010 10:13:04 GMT -5
sheep you better keep that as a secret before anyone hacks into your computer and leak that out Nothing personal really just for laughs. |
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Post by jfeathe on Jul 21, 2010 11:37:20 GMT -5
I'm completely hopeless. I can't even post a damn Paint picture. Oh well. I attached my final stage. For clarification:
12.5 meter Notched Pole: 1 foot diameter spheres "skewered" through a 12.5 meter pole. Spheres are .5 meters apart.
10 meter Wall Climb: Exact replica from Kunoichi 6's final stage
10 meter Super G-Rope: Same as Shin-Sasuke's G-Rope but with two additional bungees attached throughout the rope.
Time limit probably 55 or 60 seconds.
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Post by intelligentinfer on Jul 21, 2010 20:01:51 GMT -5
Won't that be too high and too much time?
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Post by TCM on Jul 21, 2010 21:19:01 GMT -5
Yeah, 30.5 meters is 100 feet. 100 feet for a final stage isn't really the safest idea.
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Post by jfeathe on Jul 22, 2010 10:27:50 GMT -5
If they're already going up 75 feet, I really don't see how an extra 30 feet would be so bad. I can't understand why everyone thinks 75 feet has to be the safety limit.
I know they rent out Midoriyama, but if a tower that high really is a problem, maybe they could get permission to build a permanent structure.
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Post by TCM on Jul 22, 2010 11:48:10 GMT -5
Well what would protect it in inclement weather? Plus, if I recall correctly, TBS owns that lot and M9 simply rents out to them, so if TBS wants to hold something there other than Sasuke that tower could be in the way. Not to mention the tower has to be bulit for not just for the competitors, but the grunts have to be able to work with it. Too many factors get added on the higher you go.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 22, 2010 15:21:29 GMT -5
Well what would protect it in inclement weather? Plus, if I recall correctly, TBS owns that lot and M9 simply rents out to them, so if TBS wants to hold something there other than Sasuke that tower could be in the way. This is correct. That lot is used by several TV companies and even BMX organizations and worth more money to TBS to rent out for daily use than to tie it up for a show that's barely cracking double digits in ratings every 6 months. |
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Post by jfeathe on Jul 22, 2010 16:11:43 GMT -5
Well, I knew it was a unlikely suggestion, but I want to get back to the point that 30 extra feet simply won't add any more danger than the normal tower.
If the safety rope snaps, falling from 70 feet isn't any better than falling from 100 feet.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 22, 2010 16:25:43 GMT -5
Have you ever fallen 30 feet? Yeah.. it is a difference..
Not to mention the safety of the workers who have to work on it..
There are so many factors you're not considering about that.. A 75 foot tower is fine.. [promotion of what the topic is supposed to be about]I managed to make a Final Stage within that height limit..
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