Strictest Stage 1 Time Limit Ever

[yamfriend]

In your opinion, which tournaments had the strictest time limits for completing Stage 1?

I said

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10, 19, and 22

. What does everyone else think and why?

NOTE: You can any 3 of the choices, and I included every tournament here except for Sasuke 25 because there are a few tournaments that could be considered as the strictest ones (though I put all of them just in case ).

[YoDaUO]

Never payed attention to this but i said 8,10, and 19.

[chackpop]

Sasuke 10 had one of the most strictest time limits ever. The fastest clear only had 2.85 seconds.

Sasuke 19 was harder and people were just exhausted and couldn't keep up the speed.

Sasuke 22 was strict. You had to be constantly moving if you wanted to clear.

[intelligentinfer]

Whoever selects 14 is a fool

[BLM]

May 21, 2010 18:01:44 GMT -5 chackpop said:

Sasuke 10 had one of the most strictest time limits ever. The fastest clear only had 2.85 seconds.

Sasuke 19 was harder and people were just exhausted and couldn't keep up the speed.

Sasuke 22 was strict. You had to be constantly moving if you wanted to clear.

And who pick 18 because that had one of the most leniant time limits ever

[intelligentinfer]

Um..... You picked 18.

[TCM]

May 21, 2010 19:54:26 GMT -5 intelligentinfer said:

Um..... You picked 18.

The only people who know who voted what was......GASP........that actual person who voted. People who don't reply can vote, nor is the last vote by the last to speak all the time.

[intelligentinfer]

May 21, 2010 20:45:40 GMT -5 TCM said:

May 21, 2010 19:54:26 GMT -5 intelligentinfer said:

Um..... You picked 18.

The only people who know who voted what was......GASP........that actual person who voted. People who don't reply can vote, nor is the last vote by the last to speak all the time.

I was checking out this post before he voted, and 4,18 and 20 had a vote when I checked out right after he voted. BTW 500th post.

Anyways to get on topic 10, 19 and 22. 16 is a good candidate too.

[Gavo]

I voted for 10 and 22. 10 because the quickest person only had 2.8 seconds left and people like shingo who iirc had a good run in 10 but messed up on the Tarzan rope a bit, but still timed out.

22 because even though Yuuji had a near perfect first stage run he cleared with 7 seconds left not to mention that Miyazaki had a fast run but a small mistake on the HPA caused him to time out.

As for my third vote, Im stuck between a couple.

[chackpop]

May 22, 2010 6:49:40 GMT -5 intelligentinfer said:

May 21, 2010 20:45:40 GMT -5 TCM said:

The only people who know who voted what was......GASP........that actual person who voted. People who don't reply can vote, nor is the last vote by the last to speak all the time.

I was checking out this post before he voted, and 4,18 and 20 had a vote when I checked out right after he voted. BTW 500th post.

Anyways to get on topic 10, 19 and 22. 16 is a good candidate too.

16's time limit was leniant. 16 people cleared including people like Tomoyuki and Hidernio, the guy who wore 39 in 16. Those two had time out many times in the past.

[scnoi1217]

May 22, 2010 9:05:43 GMT -5 chackpop said:

May 22, 2010 6:49:40 GMT -5 intelligentinfer said:

I was checking out this post before he voted, and 4,18 and 20 had a vote when I checked out right after he voted. BTW 500th post.

Anyways to get on topic 10, 19 and 22. 16 is a good candidate too.

16's time limit was leniant. 16 people cleared including people like Tomoyuki and Hidernio, the guy who wore 39 in 16. Those two had time out many times in the past.

16 actually had a pretty good time limit, I think the reason so many cleared is just that is was an easy course for the time, plus having that huge run up to the Warped Wall helped to get a few more clears.

In terms of what had the strictest:
I'd say 8, 10, 17, 19, 22 had he toughest.

With the order being:
1. 19: toughest course to date and a very strict time limit. Competitors at the time were not used to the endurance and speed needed to clear the stage. Plus, I think Hirata's time out (#57) showed that you can't just be perfect on the obstacles, you also have to be really, really fast. This resulted in several mistakes by various competitors later on.
2. 10: A tough time limit not only because the Dance Bridge took time and the Jump Hang was ridiculous far, but also because no one really knew how to complete the Tarzan Rope effectively. Times would have been better if they attempted the obstacle correctly.
3. 22: Tough course plus strict time limit resulted in more time outs than clears. While the time was tough, had someone like Nagano or Levi cleared at the pace they were going, they would finish with like 19 seconds left. The course being tough (Slider Jump and Jumping Spider) and the Circle Hammer killing any speed early on, really made it tough.
4. 8: Tough course where you basically had to clear everything perfectly plus the rain didn't help with things like the Warped Wall, fastest time was only 12 seconds which was low comparing it to either SASUKE 7 or 9.
5. 17: Relatively easy course, but if you weren't perfect through the obstacles, you will time out/fail. See: Kenjiro Ishimaru, had he done that in any other tournament in 2005 and he would have cleared.

[jfeathe]

19, 17, 22 in that order.

19 was by far the strictest. Both Yuuji Washimi and Koji Yamada flew through the course and they barely finished. (Nagano and Nagasaki would have had a bit more time, but not much.)

17 seemed very strict especially coming after 16 which had one of the most lenient time limits.

22 had a tough time limit because of the Circle Hammer and the new Slider Jump. Even though 23 was nearly identical and had 16 clears, such drastic changes made it tougher than normal. Had they introduced the 12-step in 22, I don't think 5 would have cleared.

[davidcampbell]

22 Had the toughest, no contest! I was actually really pissed about this after watching videos of all the other shin 1st stages. Because I was keeping a pace that I thought would get me across the finish line safely, but was not at all thinking about trying to have a top time or race Levi or anything risky like that. And I think at any other Sasuke that pace would have been a clear.

It's pretty simple when you just compare the circle hammer to the pole maze, curtain slider and X-bridge. And compare the Slider Jump to the Chute. Circle Hammer and Slider Jump are both more time consuming than the obstacles they replaced.

19 had 5 seconds less on the clock, but this 5 seconds doesn't make up the difference.
Take a look at the time remaining for the people that did clear stage 1 in 22, they were barely making it. Yugi was by far the fastest and he only had 7 seconds! Everyone else had between 1 and 3 seconds. If Sasuke 22 had 115 seconds as Sasuke19 had there would have been only one 1st stage clear! (and he would have cleared with ony 2 seconds!)
sasukepedia.wikia.com/wiki/SASUKE_22

In sasuke 19 there were only 2 clears, but that was mostly due to fails, not time outs, where as people were timing out right and left in 22.

In 19 the competitors were still getting used to shin sasuke and did not have as much skill in general as they showed at sasuke 22 but the 2 that cleared manaced to do so with 3 and 4 seconds on the clock. Add in 5 seconds to equal the time limit of 22 and you have 8 and 9 seconds, a time that was not matched at 22!

Finally a shorter course with a shorter time is just easier than a longer course with a longer time. Every second you spend running the course brings you closer and closer to total exaustion. It's easier to run for 115 seconds than it is for 120 to put it simply.

So I think it's pretty obvious that 22 was the hardest 1st stage ever not only in terms of time limit, but in terms of endurance required and difficulty of obstacles as well. (Slider jump gap was further out)

And yes I am trying to make excuses for my failure, hahaha! But that doesn't mean it's not true.

[chackpop]

David, if you had been in Sasuke 23, I'm very certain you would have beaten Stage One with plenty of time left on the clock, if you had gone the same pace.

[YoDaUO]

May 25, 2010 16:02:03 GMT -5 davidcampbell said:

22 Had the toughest, no contest! I was actually really pissed about this after watching videos of all the other shin 1st stages. Because I was keeping a pace that I thought would get me across the finish line safely, but was not at all thinking about trying to have a top time or race Levi or anything risky like that. And I think at any other Sasuke that pace would have been a clear.

It's pretty simple when you just compare the circle hammer to the pole maze, curtain slider and X-bridge. And compare the Slider Jump to the Chute. Circle Hammer and Slider Jump are both more time consuming than the obstacles they replaced.

19 had 5 seconds less on the clock, but this 5 seconds doesn't make up the difference.
Take a look at the time remaining for the people that did clear stage 1 in 22, they were barely making it. Yugi was by far the fastest and he only had 7 seconds! Everyone else had between 1 and 3 seconds. If Sasuke 22 had 115 seconds as Sasuke19 had there would have been only one 1st stage clear! (and he would have cleared with ony 2 seconds!)
sasukepedia.wikia.com/wiki/SASUKE_22

In sasuke 19 there were only 2 clears, but that was mostly due to fails, not time outs, where as people were timing out right and left in 22.

In 19 the competitors were still getting used to shin sasuke and did not have as much skill in general as they showed at sasuke 22 but the 2 that cleared manaced to do so with 3 and 4 seconds on the clock. Add in 5 seconds to equal the time limit of 22 and you have 8 and 9 seconds, a time that was not matched at 22!

Finally a shorter course with a shorter time is just easier than a longer course with a longer time. Every second you spend running the course brings you closer and closer to total exaustion. It's easier to run for 115 seconds than it is for 120 to put it simply.

So I think it's pretty obvious that 22 was the hardest 1st stage ever not only in terms of time limit, but in terms of endurance required and difficulty of obstacles as well. (Slider jump gap was further out)

And yes I am trying to make excuses for my failure, hahaha! But that doesn't mean it's not true.

Hmm, now that I look at it more closely thats a pretty good point.

[scnoi1217]

May 25, 2010 16:02:03 GMT -5 davidcampbell said:

22 Had the toughest, no contest! I was actually really pissed about this after watching videos of all the other shin 1st stages. Because I was keeping a pace that I thought would get me across the finish line safely, but was not at all thinking about trying to have a top time or race Levi or anything risky like that. And I think at any other Sasuke that pace would have been a clear.

It's pretty simple when you just compare the circle hammer to the pole maze, curtain slider and X-bridge. And compare the Slider Jump to the Chute. Circle Hammer and Slider Jump are both more time consuming than the obstacles they replaced.

19 had 5 seconds less on the clock, but this 5 seconds doesn't make up the difference.
Take a look at the time remaining for the people that did clear stage 1 in 22, they were barely making it. Yugi was by far the fastest and he only had 7 seconds! Everyone else had between 1 and 3 seconds. If Sasuke 22 had 115 seconds as Sasuke19 had there would have been only one 1st stage clear! (and he would have cleared with ony 2 seconds!)
sasukepedia.wikia.com/wiki/SASUKE_22

In sasuke 19 there were only 2 clears, but that was mostly due to fails, not time outs, where as people were timing out right and left in 22.

In 19 the competitors were still getting used to shin sasuke and did not have as much skill in general as they showed at sasuke 22 but the 2 that cleared manaced to do so with 3 and 4 seconds on the clock. Add in 5 seconds to equal the time limit of 22 and you have 8 and 9 seconds, a time that was not matched at 22!

Finally a shorter course with a shorter time is just easier than a longer course with a longer time. Every second you spend running the course brings you closer and closer to total exaustion. It's easier to run for 115 seconds than it is for 120 to put it simply.

So I think it's pretty obvious that 22 was the hardest 1st stage ever not only in terms of time limit, but in terms of endurance required and difficulty of obstacles as well. (Slider jump gap was further out)

And yes I am trying to make excuses for my failure, hahaha! But that doesn't mean it's not true.

It's absolutely true, SASUKE 23's First Stage with a 105 second time limit or SASUKE 24's with a 105/110 second time limit might match 22's course in terms of strict time limit.

Looking back, SASUKE 18-21 had a lot of long and really unnecessary paths (like the one to the Warped Wall or the really long one to the Tarzan Rope). Those times were "strict" more because you had more ground to cover. 22's course eliminated most of the long paths and yet it was hard due to the new obstacles.

[davidcampbell]

The patrh change I'm most familiar with is the HPA to WW. They made it shorter yes, but they also made it skinny and the board was leaning so it was kinda akward and you didn't move as fast. Also the path leads you backward to the rear on the WW wheras the earlier wider path takes you to the middle, so you can just run straight up like Brian did his 2nd time out.

That that one is at least while technically being shorter is longer in effect.

There was also the PM to JS which I think was a straight line in 21? Replaced by the LG to JS path which had to right angles.

[scnoi1217]

May 25, 2010 20:12:13 GMT -5 davidcampbell said:

The patrh change I'm most familiar with is the HPA to WW. They made it shorter yes, but they also made it skinny and the board was leaning so it was kinda akward and you didn't move as fast. Also the path leads you backward to the rear on the WW wheras the earlier wider path takes you to the middle, so you can just run straight up like Brian did his 2nd time out.

That that one is at least while technically being shorter is longer in effect.

There was also the PM to JS which I think was a straight line in 21? Replaced by the LG to JS path which had to right angles.

The PM to JS curved right as well. The biggest change was getting rid of that long platform after the Flying Chute which could easily waste 5+ seconds.