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Post by RiderLeangle on Apr 22, 2010 21:34:29 GMT -5
You also got to consider the first 3 obstacles and the UCH take about the same toll as all of Shin Sasuke's stage 3 took.. LOL the 3rd Stage wasn't THAT easy in Shin Sasuke To stay on topic, the fanboy/idealist in me would want to say "Have faith, Takeda can clear the UCH", but at the moment Sasuke 24 made me realize "Maybe he just doesn't have it in him to pass the Third Stage". Not to mention Okuyama barely got on the UCH before dropping, and he's older than Takeda. That scares me because Okuyama had no problem with the SCH while Takeda hung on the final ledge WAY too long. More the fact he struggled to climb onto the Spider Flip in 23 and didn't even make it up in 24 so I think the floating board would get him.. And Okuyama didn't really seem tired on the UCH it seemed more like he couldn't hang on.. EDIT: Also chack.. Technically Yuuji was still holding onto the bar.. even if it was vertical and fell down the notch somehow still held up by the stopper
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Post by Badalight on Apr 22, 2010 21:36:30 GMT -5
No Rider, Okuyama was definitely tired. Everything about him looked tired. It's even more obvious when you realize how much he struggled on the floating boards.
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Post by theannoyingninja on Apr 22, 2010 21:41:25 GMT -5
No Rider, Okuyama was definitely tired. Everything about him looked tired. It's even more obvious when you realize how much he struggled on the floating boards. Well there is no shame in that. It's a really tough obstacle. I tried something like it. It really takes a lot of grip. It strangely didn't tire me much though . It's a really weird obstacle.
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Post by Badalight on Apr 22, 2010 21:42:42 GMT -5
I never said there was shame in that, just saying Rider's assumption in my opinion was wrong.
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Post by chackpop on Apr 22, 2010 21:44:24 GMT -5
LOL the 3rd Stage wasn't THAT easy in Shin Sasuke To stay on topic, the fanboy/idealist in me would want to say "Have faith, Takeda can clear the UCH", but at the moment Sasuke 24 made me realize "Maybe he just doesn't have it in him to pass the Third Stage". Not to mention Okuyama barely got on the UCH before dropping, and he's older than Takeda. That scares me because Okuyama had no problem with the SCH while Takeda hung on the final ledge WAY too long. More the fact he struggled to climb onto the Spider Flip in 23 and didn't even make it up in 24 so I think the floating board would get him.. And Okuyama didn't really seem tired on the UCH it seemed more like he couldn't hang on.. EDIT: Also chack.. Technically Yuuji was still holding onto the bar.. even if it was vertical and fell down the notch somehow still held up by the stopper My bad, Let me rephrase that. Takeda was the only one to fail the Double Salmon Ladder by not failed the jump in between the two Salmon Ladders
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Post by thebobmaster on Apr 22, 2010 23:44:48 GMT -5
His second attempt, actually. His first was in 18, where he failed with Shunsuke Nagasaki (who tried what Takahashi did, but without success) and Nagano (who grabbed the top and disqualified himself). Actually infer is right. Takeda's first attempt on the 3rd Cliffhanger was in Sasuke 12 (He made it to stage 3 in 9 and 11 but failed before getting to the Cliffhanger) and he passed it and failed the Pipe Slider. You seem to be thinking the Shin Cliffhanger is the 3rd version and not the 4th version, We had the all 3 levels level in Sasuke 4, 5-8 had the 2 level levels and one upwards level and 9-17 had the 3rd cliffhanger (The one people know the most probably). But Sasuke 21 was his first attempt on the Shin Cliffhanger and he passed it too. I know. I checked on Sasukepedia. Apparently, I somehow mixed up Takahashi with Takeda.
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Post by chackpop on Apr 23, 2010 13:48:59 GMT -5
Back on the topic,
Takeda has had problems with large gaps seperating both arms. Thus, why he didn't have problems with the Shin Cliff Hanger.
Version 3 had a moderate gap and he struggled on it. Also, he was younger.
Big Gap to third ledge should knock him out the first attempt
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 23, 2010 14:56:40 GMT -5
Big Gap to third ledge should knock him out the first attempt But not his second attempt.
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Post by chackpop on Apr 23, 2010 15:02:07 GMT -5
Big Gap to third ledge should knock him out the first attempt But not his second attempt. Only if they don't replace say the Doorknob Grasper with something harder.
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Post by yamfriend on Apr 23, 2010 16:59:57 GMT -5
Face it, if the finalists from last time had extreme trouble with the UCH on their first shot, Takeda will have virtually no chance. Even if he does train a hell of a lot specifically for this obstacle, he's still gonna have a rough time making it past it. I'm sorry if I repeated myself or anyone else from before, but this is the simplified version of the idea of what Takeda's chances are with the UCH. I don't mean to offend anyone who believes differently (feel free to believe what YOU think), but IMO unless he proves me wrong, I can never see him clearing this monster of a Cliff Hanger. And trust me, I'm not happy about this whatsoever---after all, his chances of reaching the Final Stage now seem to be lower than ever.
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Post by YoDaUO on Apr 23, 2010 23:14:44 GMT -5
Face it, if the finalists from last time had extreme trouble with the UCH on their first shot, Takeda will have virtually no chance. Even if he does train a hell of a lot specifically for this obstacle, he's still gonna have a rough time making it past it. I'm sorry if I repeated myself or anyone else from before, but this is the simplified version of the idea of what Takeda's chances are with the UCH. I don't mean to offend anyone who believes differently (feel free to believe what YOU think), but IMO unless he proves me wrong, I can never see him clearing this monster of a Cliff Hanger. And trust me, I'm not happy about this whatsoever---after all, his chances of reaching the Final Stage now seem to be lower than ever. Youre underestimating him.
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Post by supersheep on Apr 23, 2010 23:51:49 GMT -5
I just keep seeing 4 finalists that beat stage 3 without even looking tired not even get started on it.
Takeda was pretty much done by the time he passed the SCH in 24 and was completely done by the time he reached the SF. At his age he just isn't in the same class as a Lee, Kongu, Hashimoto, or Okuyama.
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Post by venomcarnage89 on Apr 25, 2010 12:37:46 GMT -5
I just keep seeing 4 finalists that beat stage 3 without even looking tired not even get started on it. Takeda was pretty much done by the time he passed the SCH in 24 and was completely done by the time he reached the SF. At his age he just isn't in the same class as a Lee, Kongu, Hashimoto, or Okuyama. Exactly, the previous finalists were leaps and bounds above Takeda physically and they didnt even get close this time. Personally I think the ones who feel he will pass it are the ones overestimating him, not the other way around.
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