Takahashi or Okuyama?

[FAMAS]

Both of these guys made it to the final stage in sasuke 24. They are amazing competitors,

Kenji would've been fastest on Stage 1 if not for Yuuji who beat him by 1/3 of a second. Very strong and most certainly fast. Reminds me of Nagano

Okuyama, a guy who should be past his prime but seems to be getting better and better. He did better than the legend Takeda in Stage 3, and Takeda is 5 years younger, with far more experience! Now that's awesome.

So, both men are very close in terms of skill in my opinion, and most people put them under the category of:

"Very good but a bit too old to be New Stars"

Both will undoubtably be in 25. So who will do better? Or I suppose I should say who has done better (Since Sasuke 25 has already been taped)?

EDIT: Also as well as voting who you think will do better, say who you like more out of the two as well.

[SRW]

I like em both as much as each other!

Kongu was caning the final stage until he got his line tangled =/.

Kongu might have done better just due to younger and more stamina!

[intelligentinfer]

Takahashi is just like either Nagano or Akiyama to me. He is very speedy like Nagano, but he lacks consistency as well. Anybody remembers his 1st stage losing streak?

[davidyko]

Yeah...with the losing streak and all Kongu's proved he CAN be pretty inconsistent. And with the exception of 21, I think Okuyama's never failed an obstacle he's passed before. So I'll go with Okuyama.

[arsenette]

Going with Okuyama as well as much as I adore Kenji. Okuyama has been getting better and better as time has progressed while Kenji has it at it longer and has an up and down record. That said.. Kenji made it to the 3rd stage in Sasuke 18 which was right after the renewal.. so I'm torn.. still going with Okuyama though for this poll. I love them both!

[supersheep]

I say equal. They are very similar. Too close to call

[YoDaUO]

Takahashi. I just think he is stronger than okuyama and is younger. Plus hes been around since like Sasuke 5.

[VenusHeadTrap]

I voted Okuyama as he seems like a more consistent, precise athlete. I'm not expecting Kongu to keep up his winning streak as 23 and 24 were relatively easy courses.

[supersheep]

Feb 24, 2010 16:06:10 GMT -5 VenusHeadTrap said:

I voted Okuyama as he seems like a more consistent, precise athlete. I'm not expecting Kongu to keep up his winning streak as 23 and 24 were relatively easy courses.

Dont forget Kongu got the the rope ladder in 22, only 10 people were able to beat the Slider Jump when it was new, so he had a good run there to.
Since Kongu started working out with UNCLI he really has gotten better, I'd love to see him keep it up but I think Okuyama is equally strong.

[FAMAS]

Feb 24, 2010 14:29:02 GMT -5 supersheep said:

I say equal. They are very similar. Too close to call

Exactly why I made this topic lol, I couldn't actually decide for myself!

And Kenji trained with UNCLI? Wow I never knew that.I can't remember exactly when, but in 24 Yuuji was sitting with him (they were watching someone do Stage 3, Okuyama and Takeda were sitting with them too) and Kenji was trying to say something to him, but Yuuji looked pretty annoyed with Kenji, maybe I just misinterpreted things. It's cool he trained with them though.

[yamfriend]

I said Takahashi. After all, if he passes Stage 1, he'll probably do the same in Stage 2, which he has yet to fail. Also, he's somewhat younger than Okuyama, and although they probably both did relatively well in Sasuke 25, my gut feeling tells me that Takahashi did slightly better than Okuyama for a number of possible reasons (Okuyama slipped up early; Takahashi seems to do better on new obstacles than Okuyama; etc.). Either way, I like both of them rather equally and am cheering for both of them to do their best in Sasuke 25 when it premieres.

[bigblind168]

My thoughts:
See:
Sasuke 18 (kazen renewal)
Sasuke 7 (all new to him)
Sasuke 16 (all new to him, for the most part.

He seems to adjust better to new obstacles than Okuyama, well atleast he has a track record of it.

[Zorn]

Takahashi for me. He seems to do better on new courses. At least the way I see it.

[chackpop]

Feb 24, 2010 23:10:28 GMT -5 bigblind168 said:

My thoughts:
See:
Sasuke 18 (kazen renewal)
Sasuke 7 (all new to him)
Sasuke 16 (all new to him, for the most part.

He seems to adjust better to new obstacles than Okuyama, well atleast he has a track record of it.

Kongu competed in both Sasuke 5 and Sasuke 6. It was not new to him in Sasuke 7.

[jfeathe]

It seemed like after Sasuke 18, Takahashi fell off the face of the earth until Sasuke 23.

Okuyama was a constant in Shin Sasuke.

I'm going to say Okuyama will go further.

[Badalight]

Kongu adjusts better to new obstcales? I guess you forgot Okuyama got to the second stage on his first try.

[Gavo]

Actually okuyama competed once before 20.

As for the poll I voted for kongu. IDK why but I voted for him.

[RiderLeangle]

Feb 24, 2010 18:18:00 GMT -5 FAMAS said:

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And Kenji trained with UNCLI? Wow I never knew that.

I think that was before 23 if I remember correctly

I can't remember exactly when, but in 24 Yuuji was sitting with him (they were watching someone do Stage 3, Okuyama and Takeda were sitting with them too)

It was during Tajima's run, Lee was also there.

As for my thoughts I think it will probably be Kongu. I mean Okuyama is good and has been doing consistent but I think Kenji has the better chance of doing better.
I mean he has more experience and has shown his training has paid off, especially after the previously mentioned training with UNCLI.
You also got to consider what his enemy was in most of his runs, the Cliffhanger, meaning he's made it to stage 3 multiple times, and then in 23 and 24 he passes it with ease (granted it may be a bit different method but that doesn't matter).
You also got to consider he does obstacles the harder way usually and still passes them with enough energy left like if people do things the easy way which shows some real strength and endurance there.
You also have to consider

SPOILER: Click to show

in 24 he got to the rope with pretty much the same time as Yuuji (and we all know how he did) and you can tell on the ladder he was going fast enough the crew up top couldn't keep the cable controlled enough and he was going at a good speed on the G-Rope too. So I think if the safety cable DIDN'T get tangled on the rope we would have been celebrating TWO KanzenSeiha in 24..

[VenusHeadTrap]

Feb 25, 2010 12:55:10 GMT -5 RiderLeangle said:

You also have to consider

SPOILER: Click to show

in 24 he got to the rope with pretty much the same time as Yuuji (and we all know how he did) and you can tell on the ladder he was going fast enough the crew up top couldn't keep the cable controlled enough and he was going at a good speed on the G-Rope too. So I think if the safety cable DIDN'T get tangled on the rope we would have been celebrating TWO KanzenSeiha in 24..

SPOILER: Click to show

Get real though, him not getting tangled would have taken a completely different technique to Takahashi's climbing. He would have had to be mentally straighter to realize he couldn't spin around the rope because it would wrap his cable around, and if he had a little extra mental muscle he'd already know that!

[jfeathe]

The thing is, we don't really know if Takahashi is a good Rope Climber. We know he's fast in general so it wasn't too much of a surprise that he quickly cleared the ladder.

For all we know, he could have completely run out of steam.