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Feb 9, 2010 14:48:24 GMT -5
Post by Gavo on Feb 9, 2010 14:48:24 GMT -5
With it being quite clear that were getting a brand new course. What stage do you think will defeat the 100th contestant.
I don't know why but Im thinking that we are going to have a repeat of 19 and have this tournament end in the second stage.
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Feb 9, 2010 15:41:37 GMT -5
Post by YoDaUO on Feb 9, 2010 15:41:37 GMT -5
4 pass stage one. Takeda, Yuuji, Takahshi, Nagano. 2 pass stage two - Takeda, Nagano. Takeda falls on a new cliffhanger, Nagano fails last obstacle.
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Feb 9, 2010 15:48:56 GMT -5
Post by jfeathe on Feb 9, 2010 15:48:56 GMT -5
I see at least 3 people in the new third stage. Both in Sasuke 7 and Sasuke 18 where the second stage was redesigned, the time limit was way too high.
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Feb 9, 2010 16:08:19 GMT -5
Post by SRW on Feb 9, 2010 16:08:19 GMT -5
3rd stage it will end I see Nagano Yuuji and a STQ guy maybe Hashimoto in stage 3 and all 3 will fall there.
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Feb 9, 2010 16:08:35 GMT -5
Post by Badalight on Feb 9, 2010 16:08:35 GMT -5
I think it'll be more like 20.
In 18 they were a bit displeased with how many passed stage 1, and then 3 of them passed stage 2.
That wasn't very good for a complete over-haul on the course, so they upped the difficulty for 19 but a bit too much.
So for 20 they made it easier, but people still sucked for whatever reason.
Either way, 20 has ideal results for the first tournament of a new course. I want minimal people to beat stage 1, but 1 person exactly to beat stage 2. That way we can see a few of the obstacles in stage 3 so we don't have to wait 6 months, and not too many people will get there like in 18.
Plus everyone losing on stage 2 would be lame, so to prevent that exactly 1 person to stage 3. That'd be perfect for 25 IMO.
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Feb 9, 2010 16:16:32 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 9, 2010 16:16:32 GMT -5
I voted Stage 3. Because I can kind of see Yuuji getting far even on a new course but they probably added something to trip him up in there XD
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Feb 9, 2010 16:34:28 GMT -5
Post by Badalight on Feb 9, 2010 16:34:28 GMT -5
I actually think Yuuji will fail early. He does good because he trains on obstacle replicas. Since he really can't do that, I imagine he may even go out early stage 1. Though I believe Takeda and Nagano can probably figure out the techniques to beating most of the obstacles pretty quickly, and atleast make it to stage 2.
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Feb 9, 2010 16:39:50 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 9, 2010 16:39:50 GMT -5
Have you been paying attention to the UNCLI training post 24? They've been working on more general skills recently. And Yuuji didn't copy every single obstacle and look at his runs
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Feb 9, 2010 16:57:07 GMT -5
Post by japantv1210 on Feb 9, 2010 16:57:07 GMT -5
I picked Stage 3. If they give it a really good redesign, it might not be beaten for awhile. Plus, I imagine the producers wouldn't want it to end earlier than that simply because that would probably lead to low viewership. I'm really excited to see what they do to the course though, especially the third stage.
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Feb 9, 2010 17:53:52 GMT -5
Post by Badalight on Feb 9, 2010 17:53:52 GMT -5
Have you been paying attention to the UNCLI training post 24? They've been working on more general skills recently. And Yuuji didn't copy every single obstacle and look at his runs Yeah, but we have no idea how they'll do. And exactly, look at his runs, look at 21, look at 22, look at 23. He failed obstacles he had no experience on. That's also a pretty bad argument. You don't have to train on every single obstacle to beat them. Or else most people wouldn't get past the 12 steps. Some you train for, some you don't. Some people are better when they train on replicas. Yuuji was so great at stage 3 because he practiced on harder version of the obstacles. Takeda isn't as good at that stage because he doesn't have the endurance and doesn't do as much replica training as Yuuji. Then look at Nagano. He can beat obstacles he's had no experience with, he's proved it. In sasuke 18 he made it to stage 3. He had to pass a lot of new obstacles. He's simply better at adapting than people like Yuuji. I'm sure after a tournament or two Yuuji will get the hang of it, but I'm just betting he'll go down early the first tourney or so. If you want to disagree fine, we'll just wait for the betting thread to come up
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Feb 9, 2010 18:32:02 GMT -5
Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 9, 2010 18:32:02 GMT -5
Have you been paying attention to the UNCLI training post 24? They've been working on more general skills recently. And Yuuji didn't copy every single obstacle and look at his runs Yeah, but we have no idea how they'll do. And exactly, look at his runs, look at 21, look at 22, look at 23. He failed obstacles he had no experience on. 21: He made it to the Flying Chute pretty easily 22: If he wasn't skilled like you seem to think, wouldn't he have failed the Slider Jump? 23: He nearly had it and could have passed it using that bar everyone else used, I think he was pretty much more focused on the Metal Spin at that point. I'd like you to reread that paragraph then try to figure out where your statements conflict. OK, we have the Shin Cliffhanger, maybe Jumping Bars and the possibly the jump part of the Spider Flip (as seen in one of Ryo's videos but I forget if Yuuji was there) which isn't even the hard part of the obstacle (and he got up the climb fast without even using his legs in 24 after clearing the Jumping Bars and Hang Climbing (With no legs either) so think about that too. And in that last statement there you go conflicting statements seeing as you're pretty much saying there that Yuuji is better than Takeda, and I don't know about you but getting to the last few obstacles many times seems pretty good to me.. No offense to Nagano.. but had he been that much better at adapting, would he have failed the Flying Chute in 19 and Slider Jump in 22? Not to mention 24.. (As for 20 and 21, 20 he just got out of the hospital and 21 was serious obstacle malfunction)
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Feb 10, 2010 9:23:49 GMT -5
Post by yamfriend on Feb 10, 2010 9:23:49 GMT -5
I voted Stage 3 also, though I wouldn't be surprised if it ends on Stage 2 due to some new killer obstacle/lack of experience for competitors/lack of people clearing Stage 1.
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Feb 10, 2010 10:14:46 GMT -5
Post by venomcarnage89 on Feb 10, 2010 10:14:46 GMT -5
I think we will get 7 clears stage one. 1 clear stage two, but possibly 2 clears, if a second competitor clears it will be close to the wire. No clears stage 3.
Yuuji will make it at least far into stage 2 as long as he is mindful and keeps his head in the game towards the new obstacles. Nagano will do good because he will not want to repeat the spider jump mistake of 24, but that will also add some extra pressure on him to do good so its a toss up, he does pretty well under the pressure of doing bad on his previous attempt so I think he will be the one to make it to stage 3 if he doesnt make a mistake.
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Feb 10, 2010 13:38:31 GMT -5
Post by FAMAS on Feb 10, 2010 13:38:31 GMT -5
Part of me wants to see Stage 3, but deep down I'd like it to finish on Stage 2, after all this redesign needs to be hard as hell. If it ends on Stage 2, the competitors will up their game even more, and we'll know that Sasuke means business
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Feb 10, 2010 16:11:21 GMT -5
Post by SRW on Feb 10, 2010 16:11:21 GMT -5
I'd only not mind if it ended in stage 2 provided the next one was in 3 months latest - waiting for 6 months after 19 was awful and then to have the same result more or less in 20 was even more deflating.
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Feb 11, 2010 7:40:30 GMT -5
Post by Zorn on Feb 11, 2010 7:40:30 GMT -5
Stage 3 or maybe Stage 2 (providing obstacles there manage screw competitors up). Although I think that depends of how much the course has changed.
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Feb 11, 2010 16:05:40 GMT -5
Post by BLM on Feb 11, 2010 16:05:40 GMT -5
Stage 3 because they wont make it that hard maybe as hard as 20 but nothing close to the hardest ever
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Feb 13, 2010 11:21:03 GMT -5
Post by davidyko on Feb 13, 2010 11:21:03 GMT -5
I say minimal passes in Stage 2, and maybe we see the first half of Stage 3 in action. So like 20, I guess, though I could do with a couple more stage 1 passes.
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