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Post by Homeslice on Sept 11, 2008 7:45:18 GMT -5
Yeah, really! Although I only saw G4's version, I knew the drama had to be there. I mean, poor Washimi! He was definitely a bundle of nerves that day, especially upon learning that the tournament was in his hands as the last man up. He could not have felt good after failing the Salmon Ladder.
I really hope that 21 turns out to be way better than 19.
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Post by davidyko on Sept 11, 2008 8:53:28 GMT -5
Currently there is a three-way tie between 12, 17, and 20...I get 12 and 17, but what was so special about 20?
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Post by SRW on Sept 11, 2008 9:04:06 GMT -5
I just found 20 really entertaining an then to watch the foreigner Levi outlasting everyone and although he means nothing to me here since hes American and im in UK I got right behind him when he was left alone with stage 3 and wanted him to do it and go to the end, I knew realistically he probably would fail (I was expecting at the shin cliff hanger) but I was rooting for him none the less and so wanted him to be the first man to do it.
Back to 19 look at Yuji's face just before he does the downhill jump, hes crying and looks terrified he really looked like he needed a hug there. Poor guy.
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Post by SuperTiger on Sept 11, 2008 16:21:45 GMT -5
I'm gonna say that 18 was the best, so what if we didn't have a final stage, the course was brand spankin new, with 25 new obstacles, and nagano was really humble to disqualify himself on the cliff-hanger. My second favorite would be a ty between 8 and 17.
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Post by gtoneko on Sept 15, 2008 3:03:28 GMT -5
As weird as this will sound, I'd have to vote for 19 due to the fact that not since 5 had there been so few to make it past stage 1 and not since the first Kunoichi tournament, did no one person beat stage 2.
The drama filled the air of how much harder the course was, especially with the All Stars dealing with what normally would've been a give or take moment of being able to pass or not pass, all faced disaster when one by one, time out or falling into the water was a reality.
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Post by Zorn on Oct 4, 2008 0:10:50 GMT -5
I think I'll have to like Sasuke 7 beacause yamamoto made it to the final stage and on of the rare times he's done so. Sasuke 16 beacause shiratori was on of two men to beat the devil's swing and almost made it to the final stage. Sasuke 10 beacause it was yamada's last great performance.
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Post by Zorn on Oct 4, 2008 0:11:22 GMT -5
I think I'll have to like Sasuke 7 beacause yamamoto made it to the final stage and one of the rare times he's done so. Sasuke 16 beacause shiratori was on of two men to beat the devil's swing and almost made it to the final stage. Sasuke 10 beacause it was yamada's last great performance.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 4, 2008 16:06:34 GMT -5
Yamada did good in 12, what are you smking? =p He just forgot to take off his gloves, which no one even knew was a rule, so one could argue he made it to stage 3, who knows how far he would've made it had that not happend, he may have won the entire thing, who knows?
And he also did good in 18, just not good enough.
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Post by obakemono on Oct 4, 2008 17:02:19 GMT -5
Yamada had three chances at the second stage in 12 and didn't make it through.
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Post by bigblind168 on Oct 4, 2008 20:05:06 GMT -5
I think I'll have to like Sasuke 7 beacause yamamoto made it to the final stage and one of the rare times he's done so. Sasuke 16 beacause shiratori was on of two men to beat the devil's swing and almost made it to the final stage. Sasuke 10 beacause it was yamada's last great performance. let me try 2 understand ur post Shingo: ur dissin one of the 3 men to reach the final stage multipal times? *wags finger* yamada in 10: like bada said, he did well in 12, since he forgot his gloves he culd have made the aurgement taht he didnt kno, which he probably did and to oka's point: yea he had 3 attempts, this is a very exhausting stage, so he does it once, no prob, forgot his gloves, second time technical dificulty on the wall lift (god knows how) and the 3rd time he like fails the brick climb of hear, plz correct me if im wrong. But that must take a toll on you, not to mention, he did the first stage also, so he did 4 stages taht day, 3 of them, back to back to back so thatll stake a toll on u sasuke 16: cant argue with u, u had sum good point, no arguement
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Post by Badalight on Oct 5, 2008 9:28:53 GMT -5
Yamada had three chances at the second stage in 12 and didn't make it through. Everyone knows that already, it's called fatigue, most people couldn't do it on their second try. Rarely have people beaten a stage ont heir second try, and when they do they are stopped early, Yamada had to do the entire thing, he was exhausted. The secondtime was reported as a mechanical failure on the wall lift, meaning even after the fatigue he made it to the very end only to lose by mechanical failure. On the third time no one would be able to pass, I'm not surprised he couldn't do it. That's a terrible argument, he had an amazing run in Sasuke 12 and if it wasn't for the gloves he could've made it quite far, probably to the pipe slider slider at least, and if he had beaten the his nemesis (the pipe slider) he may have beaten the final stage.
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Post by Zorn on Oct 5, 2008 9:48:39 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong bigblind I not trying to diss Shingo in fact he's my #1 favorite competitor, I'm just saying that Sasuke 7 was the last time he made it to the final stage and I personally hope he makes it there again. As for Yamada yeah i forgot about 12 and 18 those performances were his best but I perfer his performance in Sasuke 10 over them.
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Post by bigblindforgothispassword on Oct 5, 2008 10:04:03 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong bigblind I not trying to diss Shingo in fact he's my #1 favorite competitor, I'm just saying that Sasuke 7 was the last time he made it to the final stage and I personally hope he makes it there again. As for Yamada yeah i forgot about 12 and 18 those performances were his best but I perfer his performance in Sasuke 10 over them. Oh ok, yeh but i dont see shingo back to stage 4 soon, i mean passed stage 1 it takes tons of upper boddy, and knowing shingos shoulder... damn and Yamada was good in 12, but in 18 my beef with him is tht he like walk from obstacle 2 obstacles, no hussle @ all
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Post by obakemono on Oct 5, 2008 10:08:41 GMT -5
That's a terrible argument, he had an amazing run in Sasuke 12 and if it wasn't for the gloves he could've made it quite far, probably to the pipe slider slider at least, and if he had beaten the his nemesis (the pipe slider) he may have beaten the final stage. This is a fair opinion, but to me, I don't see what part of breaking the rules and then not making up for it on a subsequent attempt can be considered a great performance. Fatigue, yes, but it's been done successfully before. It's like saying Nagano cleared the Cliff Hanger in 18.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 5, 2008 15:01:37 GMT -5
No, it's competely different. Nagano's technical failure happend on the second obstacle, Yamada had cleared the entire stage 2. And on the second time he made it to the end AGAIN.
The third time, even Nagano would be too fatigued to beat it, not only was Yamada fatigued, but he must've been hella upset because
1. He made it to stage 3 and he to re-do stage 2 unfairly since no one knew you had to remove the gloves
2. The second time he could've made it again, only for a mechanical failure on the wall lift.
I know not only would I be extremely tired, but extremely pissed and it just wouldn't be possible to do stage 2 again after 2 full attempts at it already.
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Post by obakemono on Oct 5, 2008 15:20:14 GMT -5
1. He made it to stage 3 and he to re-do stage 2 unfairly since no one knew you had to remove the gloves2. The second time he could've made it again, only for a mechanical failure on the wall lift. Besides, I'm just saying that I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that Yamada in 12 was not a "great performance." It never actually amounted to anything.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 5, 2008 20:04:53 GMT -5
I'm saying it COULD'VE.
Yamada always does exceptional on stage 3, and if it wasn't for the glove rule that nobody at the time knew about, he could've made it back to the pipe slider or even the final stage.
And he got extremely close the first time he did the final stage, infact, if he used his legs at the start he could've won in Sasuke 3, then history would've been changed and if he started sucking after that he'd be our Akiyama, and no one would make fun of him because he did infact beat the course.
But since he didn't use his legs, that didn't happen and he was about a second off of beating the final stage.
Just saying he had a good sasuke 12 perfromance that could've turned out to be incredible had he not been disqualified, it was an unfair ruling and it destroyed the rest of his Sasuke career, he lsot his perfect attendance record after not going to Sasuke 13, so now SHingo is the only one to hold that, and he couldn't pass stage 1 since then, Sasuke 12 destroyed everything that is Yamada.
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Post by davidyko on Oct 5, 2008 20:50:50 GMT -5
Okay, let's make some things clear about Sasuke 12.
People knew about the rule. His claim for redoing the 2nd stage was: "I knew that I had to take off the gloves before the Spider Walk, but I didn't hear that I would get disqualified if I didn't." Using this nonsensical claim, he did the stage over again even as Jordan Jovtchev was already at the start area preparing, and he hit the button just as time ran out. Instead of accepting that he was a couple of hundredths of a second off, he claimed that it must have been a mechanical error, and tried to do the second stage a third time, after all the competitors had gone. He then promptly fell off the Brick Climb.
There's no element of unfairness in the entire affair. Perhaps in the heat of the moment, he simply forgot about taking off his gloves. Before stage 2, he was heard worrying about whether he would be able to take his gloves off quickly to the other All-Stars, so it seems he was originally going to.
I know you love Yamada, and I do too, and I want him to do well, and it is indeed beastly that he basically did the Second Stage twice in a row, but it wasn't unfair. I agree as well that he could've done hella well in the 3rd stage, maybe even make it to the final, but that's just how life is.
Out of concern for accuracy, the Shin-Cliffhanger in 18 (and all the subsequent tournaments) was the 4th obstacle, not the 2nd.
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Post by Badalight on Oct 6, 2008 13:04:26 GMT -5
Why'd you put that shin cliffhanger comment in there?
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Post by davidyko on Oct 6, 2008 19:28:01 GMT -5
It's like saying Nagano cleared the Cliff Hanger in 18. No, it's competely different. Nagano's technical failure happend on the second obstacle, Yamada had cleared the entire stage 2. Sound familiar?
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