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Post by darthvaderlim on Oct 7, 2024 2:07:38 GMT -5
Has Nagano ever cracked under pressure, like in 10, 19, 22 and 28 when his fellow All-Stars failed Stage One? Usually, he tries to keep a straight face and do his best, unlike Yuuji in 25 and 26.
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Post by dakohosu on Oct 7, 2024 14:41:41 GMT -5
Has Nagano ever cracked under pressure, like in 10, 19, 22 and 28 when his fellow All-Stars failed Stage One? Usually, he tries to keep a straight face and do his best, unlike Yuuji in 25 and 26. I'd say 24 is the main one that springs to mind. Allegedly the reason he went so fast was because he was thrown off by Shingo and Kanno taking too much time on the first part of the course and resultantly timing out, even though he'd had no issues on the Half Pipe Attack or Warped Wall which is where both of the aforementioned lost a lot of their time. So there was definitely an element of mental pressure there, which at that point was pretty rare. I don't think he had ever failed an obstacle that he had passed previously, that wasn't modified. Except for the Downhill Jump in 20, but that seemed to be a freak accident more than anything. The tournaments you mentioned I wouldn't say were due to pressure. He failed heavily modified versions of existing obstacles in 10 and 19 and 22 was a new obstacle. And in all of those cases, multiple other strong competitors failed those same obstacles, like Takeda, Shunsuke, and Levi respectively. 28 is interesting. I wouldn't necessarily say his fail was due to pressure but more due to mentally checking out. He wasn't enjoying competing at that point, and the forced retirement certainly didn't help. This is why he just gave up with a good 10 or so seconds left on the wall; sure, he had no chance of clearing at that point, but most competitors at least give it a few more gos until they time out. |
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Post by azn on Oct 7, 2024 21:54:18 GMT -5
I'd disagree with his fail in 24. To me it just feels like a complete mental lapse caused by the aforementioned gameplan of his to go as fast as he could to avoid timing out. I don't think there was any pressure per say, just a really bad slip up.
I wouldn't say Nagano ever cracked under pressure in his career, but I feel like his metal spin attempts after his SK15 fail are perhaps the most amount of pressure he's had when facing an obstacle. You can tell from his reactions after he clears the metal spin in SK16 & 17 specifically that it gave him the heebie jeebies.
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Oct 8, 2024 12:56:44 GMT -5
I'd disagree with his fail in 24. To me it just feels like a complete mental lapse caused by the aforementioned gameplan of his to go as fast as he could to avoid timing out. I don't think there was any pressure per say, just a really bad slip up. I wouldn't say Nagano ever cracked under pressure in his career, but I feel like his metal spin attempts after his SK15 fail are perhaps the most amount of pressure he's had when facing an obstacle. You can tell from his reactions after he clears the metal spin in SK16 & 17 specifically that it gave him the heebie jeebies. SASUKE 18 definitely confirms this. He had a scare on Salmon Ladder which eliminated all of the competitors that run before him, yet after clearing Second Stage, he specifically mentions how he mostly feared Metal Spin *it also receives modification so fair on that*. |
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Post by dakohosu on Oct 10, 2024 15:04:47 GMT -5
I'd disagree with his fail in 24. To me it just feels like a complete mental lapse caused by the aforementioned gameplan of his to go as fast as he could to avoid timing out. I don't think there was any pressure per say, just a really bad slip up. I wouldn't say Nagano ever cracked under pressure in his career, but I feel like his metal spin attempts after his SK15 fail are perhaps the most amount of pressure he's had when facing an obstacle. You can tell from his reactions after he clears the metal spin in SK16 & 17 specifically that it gave him the heebie jeebies. It's a grey area. He straight up said in his post run interview that he wanted to clear the first half of the course as quickly as possible, and no doubt this was because of what happened to Shingo and Kanno mere minutes beforehand, because Nagano had never had an issue with time on Stage 1 before. At the same time, I heard that they apparently slightly changed the walls of the JS in 24 to prevent competitors dismounting too early, which he obviously always used to do, so he potentially got caught off guard by that, because it did seem like his leg just missed one side of the wall completely. Whether his actual fail was caused by the modification or him rushing we don't know, but he definitely was feeling some pressure as per his interview. He also repeatedly mentioned he was feeling scared before his run in Sasuke 19, but I don't blame him whatsoever given..... that..... Stage 1. |
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Post by sackeshi on Oct 10, 2024 19:21:58 GMT -5
Sasuke 12 final stage, he had several small slip ups on the spider climb and failing to keep straight it cost him victory. It seemed like nerves to me.
Ps was there no crowd at that final stage? Why didn't we see reactions after the near miss?
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Oct 11, 2024 11:51:14 GMT -5
Sasuke 12 final stage, he had several small slip ups on the spider climb and failing to keep straight it cost him victory. It seemed like nerves to me. Ps was there no crowd at that final stage? Why didn't we see reactions after the near miss? There's people, just not that many. The taping went over midnight *they finished close to 01:30 or even 02:00 due to weather (remember they went to night for the first time in history during First Stage) and there is Yamada's Glove fiasco as well, plus about 10 deep runs in Third Stage* so obviously most of the audience already went home by the time Final Stage commenced. It also explains why Furutachi sounds like he lost enthusiasm towards the back half of the tournament *seen this mentioned somewhere in the Forum but not sure where*, he is simply too tired by the end of the day. |
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Post by zoran on Oct 11, 2024 15:32:00 GMT -5
Sasuke 12 final stage, he had several small slip ups on the spider climb and failing to keep straight it cost him victory. It seemed like nerves to me. Ps was there no crowd at that final stage? Why didn't we see reactions after the near miss? There's people, just not that many. The taping went over midnight *they finished close to 01:30 or even 02:00 due to weather (remember they went to night for the first time in history during First Stage) and there is Yamada's Glove fiasco as well, plus about 10 deep runs in Third Stage* so obviously most of the audience already went home by the time Final Stage commenced. It also explains why Furutachi sounds like he lost enthusiasm towards the back half of the tournament *seen this mentioned somewhere in the Forum but not sure where*, he is simply too tired by the end of the day. Oof, they just missed Sasuke history. |
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Post by hatkun on Oct 13, 2024 12:25:37 GMT -5
It also explains why Furutachi sounds like he lost enthusiasm towards the back half of the tournament *seen this mentioned somewhere in the Forum but not sure where*, he is simply too tired by the end of the day. You know, I always wondered why that was the case, Furutachi is and always will be my favorite announcer and I loved the way he brought so much energy to the first 12 tournaments, so it always felt weird how how he was so subdued in by far the most exciting climax to a tournament of all time up to that point. I can just imagine he’d have been losing his mind on Nagano’s final stage attempt like he did with Yamada in Sasuke 3. It’s sad that this turned out to be his farewell, I always wished he could’ve been the announcer when Nagano finally won it all. |
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Post by dakohosu on Oct 13, 2024 12:53:05 GMT -5
You know, I always wondered why that was the case, Furutachi is and always will be my favorite announcer and I loved the way he brought so much energy to the first 12 tournaments, so it always felt weird how how he was so subdued in by far the most exciting climax to a tournament of all time up to that point. I can just imagine he’d have been losing his mind on Nagano’s final stage attempt like he did with Yamada in Sasuke 3. It’s sad that this turned out to be his farewell, I always wished he could’ve been the announcer when Nagano finally won it all. That makes two of us. The last time I did a run through of tournaments, the switch from 12 to 13 caught me off guard. Aside from the fact that 13's results were generally very underwhelming and regressive compared to 12's, there just didn't seem to be that degree of drama and grandeur and not having Furutachi's raspy dramatic comments throughout runs definitely had a big part to play in that. Imagine watching something like Kane's Stage 3 clear in Sasuke 8 without Furutachi's "AI-TAI-TAAAAAAAAAA". I do really like Sugiyama for the more recent tournaments as he does somewhat bring back that same feel albeit in a different way, but Furutachi will always be, and literally is, the OG Sasuke announcer. Just his voice alone gives a tournament a vintage feel. |
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Oct 14, 2024 13:24:23 GMT -5
You know, I always wondered why that was the case, Furutachi is and always will be my favorite announcer and I loved the way he brought so much energy to the first 12 tournaments, so it always felt weird how how he was so subdued in by far the most exciting climax to a tournament of all time up to that point. I can just imagine he’d have been losing his mind on Nagano’s final stage attempt like he did with Yamada in Sasuke 3. It’s sad that this turned out to be his farewell, I always wished he could’ve been the announcer when Nagano finally won it all. Not to mention Furutachi basically seen Yamada's career progressed during those years, starting with Kinniku Banzuke. He knew what SASUKE means to Yamada. I guess in some form or another he felt sympathy towards him and hence kinda side with him? I mean he clearly shows sometimes he wanted people to clear the stage whenever he become announcer. |
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