Slider Jump Problems

[scnoi1217]

So, I was re-watching SASUKE 22, and I was trying to figure out why certain people failed the Slider Jump while others seemed to have no trouble with it. Looking at the slow motion replays of Nagano's failure, I found why he failed. It wasn't because the net broke or he lost his grip on the net, but rather it was his right hand.

If you look at his replays, you'll notice that the bar starts to move towards the right side of the track. Nagano tries to correct this by pushing against the right side to even it out. However, by doing this, his right hand rubs against the right track of the Stick Slider, effectively killing his momentum. Thus, he was only able to touch the net with his left hand.

This happened over and over and is the reason why people like Levi Meeuwenberg and Takuya Kawahara failed. They tried to even out the bar and ended up killing their momentum.

The people that successfully beat this obstacle (or at least got to the net) had no trouble with the sides of the tracks and either knew how to hold the bar or got lucky when they hit the drops.

What do you think is the best way to complete this obstacle? I also don't think using the Pipe Slider method of waiting until the bottom of the track and then trying to swing to the net will work and you need good speed and good momentum to carry you towards the net.

[Oti]

I don't think this is really a problem. I think it makes it harder. If they need to fix it, though, they can just shorten the bar (or widen the tracks).

I'm pretty sure swinging at the end would work just fine. You could generate just as much momentum by swinging as you could by hitting the bottom of the tracks with a lot of speed. If you know how to swing, of course.

The best way to do this is to jump off the platform with the bar straight and when you go down the drops, keep the bar straight.

If it's still there when I run the course, if I have the time, I'll try to swing and jump.

[quasikoz]

I see the Stick Slider much like the Gliding Ring. If you have enough momentum for one shot, take it. If not, hold on at the end and get in an extra swing or two to get across.

Granted that's easier said than done and there is the clock to consider, but I think people were messing up on the Stick Slider because of the bar not traveling even and worrying about the clock.

[Oti]

I agree. I think if you have the time, you should swing.

[davidcampbell]

I'd like to point out that Nagano and Levi both did actually grab the net before slipping off, as did I (even though I was able to re-grab and recover). There is definitely a lot to be said for technique on this obstacle, to get a good launch off the rail, but one thing that needs to be taken into account is the physical exhaustion you feel by the time you get to this obstacle. Under normal circumstances I would have been able to hold onto that net with 2 fingers, but being as tired as I was I just wasn't able to exert that extra force needed to keep my hand from falling off the net. Well that and the fact that I didn't get a good launch and subsequently wasn't able to wrap my entire hand around the net.

I think if it had been the first obstacle rather than the 7th, a lot more people would have passed it.

Oh one more thing I have to throw out there is that if you're tall enough (5'10"+) I think it may be possible to ride the rail to the end, hold on with both hands, and swing to the net with a foot (as with the second part of the chute).

I've been analyzing some photos I took of the slider jump and I'm pretty sure I have the measurement for the gap, or at least very close.

Drawing a straight horizontal line from the pipe to the net would be 5'. Remember though that the net is slanted as to get further away as you fall, so as soon as you've dropped about 2' the gap has become 6' and so on.