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Post by MiguelAbuel on Aug 30, 2017 0:18:28 GMT -5
With the City Finals done what is your favorite final obstacle in a finals course. Personally it's the Invisible Ladder since it gives a solid challenge but it can be done easily with the right technique like Sam Sann and Geoff Britten. It's also not dangerous like the Elevator Climb.
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Post by lightningmatt on Aug 30, 2017 6:29:28 GMT -5
Theoretically if you forget to push up (cause you're facing it like that at dismount) the rings at dismount, it could be dangerous.
But that's in theory. I still like it.
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Post by Sitthideth Keophothong on Aug 30, 2017 6:58:52 GMT -5
Since I cannot understand how the Invisible Ladder and Elevator Climb work, I decided to vote for the Spider Climb  |
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Post by Paragus on Aug 30, 2017 9:43:00 GMT -5
Since I cannot understand how the Invisible Ladder and Elevator Climb work, I decided to vote for the Spider Climb I'm pretty sure the former is like like a giant pulley. Not sure about the Elevator Climb though. |
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Post by tyler on Aug 30, 2017 12:31:41 GMT -5
I like the invisible ladder. It takes energy to complete and it just looks really cool. It's a very worthy last obstacle. Also I don't believe it has had the issues that the elevator climb has had with it messing up.
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Post by Messup434 on Aug 30, 2017 14:29:27 GMT -5
Cargo Climb should return. It was simple, plus (because it's unfailable) it'd mean they'd have to eliminate the guaranteed spot for finishers and make the obstacles before it far more manageable   |
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Post by DonalM on Aug 31, 2017 0:04:06 GMT -5
Cargo Climb should return. It was simple, plus (because it's unfailable) it'd mean they'd have to eliminate the guaranteed spot for finishers and make the obstacles before it far more manageable You want to go back to the dark days of Season 4? |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Aug 31, 2017 1:21:57 GMT -5
I mean, I'll admit I like the Invisible Ladder, but honestly it seems like a misstep putting an obstacle like that after 9 other obstacles is a bit OP, so I wouldn't mind it replacing a Salmon Ladder or being a Final Stage type thing, but as for final obstacle of a regional I honestly enjoy the Spider Climb even though it's easy AF
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Post by MiguelAbuel on Aug 31, 2017 3:22:37 GMT -5
I mean, I'll admit I like the Invisible Ladder, but honestly it seems like a misstep putting an obstacle like that after 9 other obstacles is a bit OP, so I wouldn't mind it replacing a Salmon Ladder or being a Final Stage type thing, but as for final obstacle of a regional I honestly enjoy the Spider Climb even though it's easy AF The Spider Climb was easy but 5 still failed it. I think they should do half a Spider Climb and then a rope climb like in Team Ninja Warrior |
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Post by tyler on Aug 31, 2017 10:46:18 GMT -5
End it with a 35 rung salmon ladder. There will almost be no finishers but if there ever are any it will be super impressive and it would look cool too I think.
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Post by SasukeForever on Aug 31, 2017 11:21:33 GMT -5
End it with a 35 rung salmon ladder. There will almost be no finishers but if there ever are any it will be super impressive and it would look cool too I think. I mean...only two guys have finished the salmon ladder during the skills challenge, and that's just doing that. You want people to do it after 9 obstacles? GTFO. No chance anyone gets halfway |
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Post by Philip on Aug 31, 2017 11:37:33 GMT -5
Elevator Climb is a bit too crazy, especially for a 10th obstacle. Invisible Ladder with a lighter pulley like some cities had would be better.
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Post by Sitthideth Keophothong on Aug 31, 2017 12:00:44 GMT -5
End it with a 35 rung salmon ladder. There will almost be no finishers but if there ever are any it will be super impressive and it would look cool too I think. I mean...only two guys have finished the salmon ladder during the skills challenge, and that's just doing that. You want people to do it after 9 obstacles? GTFO. No chance anyone gets halfway I think we only need to find the top 15 in each City Finals so it would not be a problem if no one finished the City Finals. Moreover, if the 35 rung salmon ladder is too hard, a 20 rung salmon ladder may be used instead . |
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Post by Paragus on Aug 31, 2017 12:04:52 GMT -5
I mean...only two guys have finished the salmon ladder during the skills challenge, and that's just doing that. You want people to do it after 9 obstacles? GTFO. No chance anyone gets halfway I think we only need to find the top 15 in each City Finals so it would not be a problem if no one finished the City Finals. Uh, yes it would be a problem. Watching a course slaughter the entire competition is incredibly unsatisfying. |
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Post by SasukeForever on Aug 31, 2017 15:27:09 GMT -5
I mean...only two guys have finished the salmon ladder during the skills challenge, and that's just doing that. You want people to do it after 9 obstacles? GTFO. No chance anyone gets halfway I think we only need to find the top 15 in each City Finals so it would not be a problem if no one finished the City Finals. Moreover, if the 35 rung salmon ladder is too hard, a 20 rung salmon ladder may be used instead . So, you're saying that nobody in ALL SIX REGIONS should clear city finals then? That sounds like a ratings tank to me. |
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Post by tyler on Aug 31, 2017 18:15:49 GMT -5
I was pretty much kidding. I think a salmon ladder for the last obstacle would be really cool looking and super awesome if someone did it but it would be too crazy. But in all seriousness a 10 rung followed by a rope would look cool too.
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Post by Steven π on Sept 1, 2017 0:07:51 GMT -5
Sorry to break it from all you guys who wanted Salmon Ladder at the end, but we have Salmon Ladder in 7th  |
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Post by DonalM on Sept 1, 2017 0:37:47 GMT -5
Sorry to break it from all you guys who wanted Salmon Ladder at the end, but we have Salmon Ladder in 7th Put the Elevator Climb there instead lol |
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Post by Steven π on Sept 1, 2017 1:27:12 GMT -5
Sorry to break it from all you guys who wanted Salmon Ladder at the end, but we have Salmon Ladder in 7th Put the Elevator Climb there instead lol How about Invisible Ladder but instead of ring it’s Cannonball? |
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Post by alc on Sept 1, 2017 12:54:45 GMT -5
Is there anyone else who doesn't love the pure strength-based obstacles? Sure, the Invisible Ladder is visually impressive, but I actually think it's more biased against the women than obstacles that (sometimes deceptively) require strength plus technique. Rolling Thunder, Crank it Up, Rail Runner, and Circuit Board come to mind as obstacles that require a very high level of strength, but are not an absolute test of strength: they also require some combination of dynamic movement, body control, flexibility, finesse, and balance. I find it exciting to see women succeed at these obstacles, and it's a fair fight in large part because there's a heavy (and often hidden) technique component.
The closer an obstacle gets to becoming a straight-up weightlifting challenge, the less the women are going to be able to compete head-to-head against men. Women who can't outlift men in a gym can still blow them away on a rock climbing course via technique and savvy. To an outsider it might appear as if they won a strength showdown, but that's because the rock wall is the hidden equalizer to basic physiological differences.
To me, the Invisible Ladder and the Elevator Climb are more a straight-up strength test, and less the strength-and-technique combination that's produced the legitimately memorable runs by women (Jessie Graff and Jessie Labreck's legit Vegas-qualifying runs, not the 5th-place, reached-second-obstacle, new women's rule runs). NBC has boxed themselves in a corner here: it won't be easy for them to revert to a less upper-body-dependent final obstacle, so Kacy may hold the title of "only woman to hit a city finals buzzer" long after it becomes routine for women to clear Vegas stages.
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