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Post by SRW on Mar 17, 2014 10:06:43 GMT -5
As the poll above says, will there or won't there be a final stage attempt in SASUKE 30?
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Post by yamfriend on Mar 17, 2014 10:48:22 GMT -5
Considering how much training we've seen from everyone in the past year, I think we'll see at least one person attempt the Final Stage.
Then again, this is provided that few changes in increased difficulty are made to the course, such that Stages 1 and 2 aren't overkill (especially 29's Second Stage via the overpowered Backstream and the super-strict time limit of 90 seconds).
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Post by RobbyMac on Mar 17, 2014 15:44:02 GMT -5
Yes if Stage 3 has no time limit. No if there's a 30 second wait between obstacles
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Post by bigblind168 on Mar 17, 2014 22:21:38 GMT -5
I think so long as no major changes have been made to stage 3, and one obstacle before stage 3 doesn't spell disaster for those whom face it, there will be a final stage attempt
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Post by SRW on Mar 18, 2014 10:50:54 GMT -5
Landslide poll so far all Yes!! Optimism reigns supreme!
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Post by thatoneuser on Mar 18, 2014 13:47:50 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I think the Third Stage is too easy. The Crazy Cliffhanger is a real wild card but competitors have had a year and a half to practice.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 18, 2014 14:38:07 GMT -5
Depends on how the 2nd stage is designed. I'm going "no" so far.
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Post by SRW on Mar 19, 2014 17:04:44 GMT -5
I think Stage 3 is easy too honestly bar the CCH and PS dismount, if the 2nd Stage is more leniant this time and a good handful get through I gurantee at least one makes it there.
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Post by thebobmaster on Mar 19, 2014 17:30:01 GMT -5
I think people are underestimating the Vertical Limit. Sure, Morimoto beast-moded through it, but that still isn't an obstacle to take lightly.
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Post by RobbyMac on Mar 19, 2014 18:29:46 GMT -5
I think Stage 3 is easy too honestly bar the CCH and PS dismount, if the 2nd Stage is more leniant this time and a good handful get through I gurantee at least one makes it there. Yea let's make the 2nd stage easier for someone who's only good at stage 3. *Sarcasm*
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Post by SRW on Mar 19, 2014 20:07:04 GMT -5
Nah Robby just think the time Limit in Stage 2 in 29 was too strict just make it 10 seconds longer and its fine and keep the backstream powerful.
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Post by dlee on Mar 19, 2014 20:10:19 GMT -5
I think people are underestimating the Vertical Limit. Sure, Morimoto beast-moded through it, but that still isn't an obstacle to take lightly. Completely agree! Vertical Limit is so difficult. There is no way stage 3 is too easy. People have to appreciate how amazing of a performance Morimoto had in 29. Kong didnt even make it to the jump transition on the CCH. Anyone who says its too easy is crazy.
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Post by yamfriend on Mar 20, 2014 22:21:10 GMT -5
I think people are underestimating the Vertical Limit. Sure, Morimoto beast-moded through it, but that still isn't an obstacle to take lightly. Completely agree! Vertical Limit is so difficult. There is no way stage 3 is too easy. People have to appreciate how amazing of a performance Morimoto had in 29. Kong didnt even make it to the jump transition on the CCH. Anyone who says its too easy is crazy. Not to take anything away from Morimoto, but a lot of the STQers probably have the ability to match or even beat his SASUKE 29 Stage 3 performance. I sure as hell wouldn't stand a chance against the majority of Stage 3 (especially in regards to the CCH and Vertical Limit), but competitors like Yuuji and Ryo are IMO likely to at least get to the Pipe Slider provided they reach Stage 3. We've seen how much skill/practice they (as well as various other guys) have on their belts via training footage, and I'm sure they've all but mastered the CCH jump and the general techniques, grip strength, stamina, etc. needed for Stage 3 in general. In short, if at least one such competitor can reach Stage 3 in SASUKE 30, I believe there's a better chance than not of the Final Stage being attempted.
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Post by RobbyMac on Mar 20, 2014 22:59:45 GMT -5
Anyone with baby hands will have a an easier time on VL. So Yuuji, Ryo, and Morimoto are all tiny and it shouldnt be as hard as compared to a David Campbell or even a Kanno.
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Post by dlee on Mar 20, 2014 23:31:27 GMT -5
Completely agree! Vertical Limit is so difficult. There is no way stage 3 is too easy. People have to appreciate how amazing of a performance Morimoto had in 29. Kong didnt even make it to the jump transition on the CCH. Anyone who says its too easy is crazy. Not to take anything away from Morimoto, but a lot of the STQers probably have the ability to match or even beat his SASUKE 29 Stage 3 performance. I sure as hell wouldn't stand a chance against the majority of Stage 3 (especially in regards to the CCH and Vertical Limit), but competitors like Yuuji and Ryo are IMO likely to at least get to the Pipe Slider provided they reach Stage 3. We've seen how much skill/practice they (as well as various other guys) have on their belts via training footage, and I'm sure they've all but mastered the CCH jump and the general techniques, grip strength, stamina, etc. needed for Stage 3 in general. In short, if at least one such competitor can reach Stage 3 in SASUKE 30, I believe there's a better chance than not of the Final Stage being attempted. I kind of agree with you. but what is your reasoning for thinking that there will be a final stage attempt if at least one person makes it stage 3 when 4 made it in sasuke 29? I realize it has been a year of training and such but the competitors still have to show up and complete 3 stages. many athletes do have the training required to get to the pipeslider and comeplete the stage 3 but actually putting it together on the day is a whole different story. ryo (in 6 sasuke attempts) has only made it to stage 3 one time and he completed it (DIDNT have the CCH or VL either). he has failed stage 1 3 times. so the odds of him getting all the way to stage 3 and completing it are crazy bad. mathematically completeing the 3 stages is so so so hard. its easy to say that yushi and ryo or anyone else could do it coz they do all have the skills. but respect has to go to the insanely casual way Morimoto put the course to sleep. people are saying its too easy because he made it look easy!
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Post by RobbyMac on Mar 21, 2014 1:11:06 GMT -5
Not to take anything away from Morimoto, but a lot of the STQers probably have the ability to match or even beat his SASUKE 29 Stage 3 performance. I sure as hell wouldn't stand a chance against the majority of Stage 3 (especially in regards to the CCH and Vertical Limit), but competitors like Yuuji and Ryo are IMO likely to at least get to the Pipe Slider provided they reach Stage 3. We've seen how much skill/practice they (as well as various other guys) have on their belts via training footage, and I'm sure they've all but mastered the CCH jump and the general techniques, grip strength, stamina, etc. needed for Stage 3 in general. In short, if at least one such competitor can reach Stage 3 in SASUKE 30, I believe there's a better chance than not of the Final Stage being attempted. I kind of agree with you. but what is your reasoning for thinking that there will be a final stage attempt if at least one person makes it stage 3 when 4 made it in sasuke 29? I realize it has been a year of training and such but the competitors still have to show up and complete 3 stages. many athletes do have the training required to get to the pipeslider and comeplete the stage 3 but actually putting it together on the day is a whole different story. ryo (in 6 sasuke attempts) has only made it to stage 3 one time and he completed it (DIDNT have the CCH or VL either). he has failed stage 1 3 times. so the odds of him getting all the way to stage 3 and completing it are crazy bad. mathematically completeing the 3 stages is so so so hard. its easy to say that yushi and ryo or anyone else could do it coz they do all have the skills. but respect has to go to the insanely casual way Morimoto put the course to sleep. people are saying its too easy because he made it look easy! Ryo has no business on stage 3.... but if they make stage 1 and 2 any easier.... he will be there and he'll beat it.
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Post by SRW on Mar 21, 2014 7:44:00 GMT -5
This is kinda my point with the 3rd STAGE I don't see it as difficult enough in the capacity that even if all the cliffers and Shin sedai made it to Stage 3 I could still think this 3rd Stage will still defeat them all this time, instead it just feels like if these names get there - its getting cleared no doubt about it. I wish the five jump flying bar was still at the end to be honest that alone with take away alot of certainty about clearing.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Mar 23, 2014 0:25:13 GMT -5
Simple. Take away the unlimited time crap from 29, and keep the course the same, and you've got a big fat NO.
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