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Post by Badalight on Jun 3, 2011 17:11:17 GMT -5
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Post by Anshin on Jun 3, 2011 18:10:53 GMT -5
I never could get into the comics. I mean, I was when I was like 8 years old, since my uncle and I would go to the comics shop like every weekend; but since I haven't interacted with comics since then, it's really moot in my book. The only real story or even backstory in that regard that I get these days, are from ye olde cartoons from the 90s, like the old Batman, X-Men, Spiderman, Justice League, etc. With that in mind, most of my knowledge of the DC and Marvel universes comes from the animated stories as opposed to the printed stories.
Though, I guess, this would be a good time to re-initiate myself into the DC universe w/ this reboot.
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Post by Badalight on Jun 3, 2011 21:40:52 GMT -5
Honestly it doesn't affect me either since I'm not interested in comics, but it's still big news.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 3, 2011 21:58:28 GMT -5
Well DC has rebooted so many times I gave up.. especially went they went to killing Superman for hope on sales and that didn't work.. so yeah I gave up on DC loooooooong time ago.
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Post by Badalight on Jun 3, 2011 22:34:14 GMT -5
Well DC has rebooted so many times I gave up.. especially went they went to killing Superman for hope on sales and that didn't work.. so yeah I gave up on DC loooooooong time ago. This seems like a bit larger scale from what I can tell, but I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject. Seems like they are basically starting over, from scratch, every character starting fresh.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 3, 2011 22:36:30 GMT -5
Well DC has rebooted so many times I gave up.. especially went they went to killing Superman for hope on sales and that didn't work.. so yeah I gave up on DC loooooooong time ago. This seems like a bit larger scale from what I can tell, but I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject. Seems like they are basically starting over, from scratch, every character starting fresh. Oh I'm aware of that.. friends of mine who used to be huge on DC even up to the 1990's really don't care for this anymore.. we all pretty much gave up on the franchise anyway. So anything they do now will probably spike some interest then die down again. If they have no faith in the franchise by throwing away 60 years of history.. why should we?
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Post by Badalight on Jun 3, 2011 23:03:46 GMT -5
This seems like a bit larger scale from what I can tell, but I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject. Seems like they are basically starting over, from scratch, every character starting fresh. Oh I'm aware of that.. friends of mine who used to be huge on DC even up to the 1990's really don't care for this anymore.. we all pretty much gave up on the franchise anyway. So anything they do now will probably spike some interest then die down again. If they have no faith in the franchise by throwing away 60 years of history.. why should we? That's interesting. I was curious what long time readers would think about it. I assumed they'd all be pretty pissed off. Though I do have quite a few friends of my own who always wanted to get into the comics, but there was just too much backstory and other things that it was just really hard to get into for newcomers. So they're taking this opportunity to start reading them. Guess we'll just have to find out if it's a smart move or not.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 3, 2011 23:35:36 GMT -5
Well they will probably get the new generation since they've already abandoned the old one. Given that the old one already doesn't give a damn I guess it's better than nothing at this point. DC is a wasteland of crap right now.
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Post by lostinube on Jun 4, 2011 20:23:37 GMT -5
Um. No. It's the older generation who sticks around which is why DC's characters have essentially gone back in time: The reboot characters of the Silver Age (i.e. all the major characters outside of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman) had all been replaced at one point or another in the last twenty years. Nostalgic fans and writers clamor for the "original" characters to be bought back and DC constantly caves, not allowing a whole generation of comic book fans to have major characters of their own. And anyway, reboots happen. DC has been trying to fix their continuity since Crisis on Infinite Earths in the 80s. The bigger thing to many fans that the Escapist story partially addresses is the fact that DC will now be releasing digital editions of all their books the same day the print version hit the streets, which will have longer lasting effects on the industry than some sales event disguised as a reboot. www.comicsalliance.com/tag/DcReboot/
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Post by arsenette on Jun 5, 2011 3:24:37 GMT -5
That's odd simply because the hardcore comic fans of my generation couldn't give a crap and the generation before that got them into comics also abandoned it and are laughing at the reboot. I think you are talking about the SUPER hardcore that will buy anything regardless of their quality simply because the sales of comics in this country have nosedived like crazy. The boom of doing comics into movies is the only reason why it's even relevant today and the push to redo the "old and tired" franchises into update IS the new generation that can't relate to the previous generations versions. THOSE are the fans DC is trying to reach.. not the ones who abandoned them years ago.
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Post by lostinube on Jun 5, 2011 5:22:24 GMT -5
Reboots are attempts to attract new fans AND bring back old fans.
For new fans, the reboot is marketed as a jumping on point. For old fans, the reboot is marketed as a change from directions that haven't been working.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 5, 2011 6:46:27 GMT -5
Aware of that just saying that the hardcore fans that I know.. they aren't interested simply because DC's past is so .. non-committal? From their responses they got tired of buying a series only to find out that they changed it because of "market pressure". So they just decided to quit altogether rather than trying to financially support an industry that frankly hasn't given a damn in years. With the amount of writer turn around it's not surprising so many people have faulted DC for not even being what fans want.. which is relative consistency. I myself could care less at this point though for those who stuck with them for years and have closets full of original printing, archival saved comics from even as late as the 1980's.. I feel bad because they truly did love those series and feel abandoned by the almighty dollar. Will be curious how long these series will last before they realize that the comic industry as a whole is a dying trend in this country.. again.. thanks to their lack of planning. It's a vicious circle really.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2011 17:58:45 GMT -5
It doesn't really make me want to buy anything.
The reason I stay away from comics is because it's all the same s***. I want something new, like a new storyline not about someone with a special power, a new... something. I know they exist, comics that aren't about super heroes, but one has to be super popular in order for me to care. Meaning I don't care that much to go out and find good comics. I'll wait for one to become a popular cult hit...
.... or better yet, I'll just keep watching movies, cause that's more entertaining anyways.
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Post by thatoneuser on Jun 5, 2011 21:37:07 GMT -5
Wait, then what happens to the Fantastic Four, I mean three?
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Post by Badalight on Jun 5, 2011 21:48:45 GMT -5
Wait, then what happens to the Fantastic Four, I mean three? Uh... that's marvel buddy.
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