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Post by Ninja Relaxer on Jan 3, 2023 14:14:49 GMT -5
I think Takeda was injured recently, and maybe that was why he didn't participate. Does anyone have the full story?
Aside from Takeda, though, I really missed seeing Asa Kazuma. He was one of my favorite competitors for as long as he competed. I've often wondered what he's up to these days, maybe because I feel like his surplus of passion and sensitivity give him a rough road in life. I hope he's doing well and not too broken up about the loss of his Sasuke career.
I missed seeing Bunpei too. I don't expect him to compete (IMO, he's wise not to), but it would have been nice to see him on the sidelines with the other All Stars.
A few others it would have been nice to see: Yoshiyuki Okuyama, Kongu, Levi Meeuwenberg, Lee Yen Chi.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Jan 3, 2023 15:14:40 GMT -5
I think Takeda was injured recently, and maybe that was why he didn't participate. Does anyone have the full story? Aside from Takeda, though, I really missed seeing Asa Kazuma. He was one of my favorite competitors for as long as he competed. I've often wondered what he's up to these days, maybe because I feel like his surplus of passion and sensitivity give him a rough road in life. I hope he's doing well and not too broken up about the loss of his Sasuke career. I missed seeing Bunpei too. I don't expect him to compete (IMO, he's wise not to), but it would have been nice to see him on the sidelines with the other All Stars. A few others it would have been nice to see: Yoshiyuki Okuyama, Kongu, Levi Meeuwenberg, Lee Yen Chi. Takeda was forced to retire from competing due to a heart condition called atrial fibrillation. He had surgery which was successful but he has to refrain from strenuous exercise. He hasn't exactly closed the door to a farewell appearance but it's extremely unlikely. Asa, Okuyama and Kenji are retired nowadays with no chance of a comeback while Levi has kind of quit society lol. I'd love to see Lee come back because he's still in great shape and he could still be a threat to clear Stage 1 but afaik he hasn't applied or received an invitation ever since Liao was competing as Taiwan's lone representative. |
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Post by brz0ny on Jan 3, 2023 15:29:44 GMT -5
Rene. I dont know the reason why he wasnt there but if they decided to invite Edelmanns instead of him then I am speechless.
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Post by cb on Jan 3, 2023 15:43:47 GMT -5
Rene. I dont know the reason why he wasnt there but if they decided to invite Edelmanns instead of him then I am speechless. Scheduling issues probably. Also if I had to be realistic to who I think can come back it would be Wasabi as he's a celebrity who I think has potential to do really well but just has terrible luck on the DG. |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 3, 2023 16:17:20 GMT -5
Takeda and Bunpei I'm honestly cool with not competing if they're going to put their health at risk, especially Bunpei given that his last attempt on the course wasn't exactly a return to form. In Takeda's case it was obviously a grave shame that his last ever run could've been legendary but ended up being crushed by one of Inui's dumb rules, but that doesn't mean he should return with a chronic heart condition. Him not competing anyway doesn't take away from his legacy and everything he achieved in his career, even if TBS bafflingly liked to cut him from all of their tournament recaps. I just hope Takeda doesn't do a Bunpei, going completely MIA and cutting himself off from the community, because he didn't attend 40 even to watch and hasn't really been seen at all in the past couple of years in the community. It'd be a shame for a horrible condition to be the reason he falls out of touch with some of his closest friends. To add to what others have said: - Okuyama sustained an ankle injury on the Cross Slider in 29 which allegedly ended his career. The last time we saw him was at a Sasuke kids event in 2017 but he wasn't attempting any of the obstacles or anything so he clearly wasn't in any shape to return. - Asa quit after 33 because of a shoulder injury. He was seen attempting a Salmon Ladder in practice in one of Yuuji's videos around the time of 35-36, but I presume he wouldn't want to return in fear of re-aggravating said injury or not performing at his best due to setbacks. Either way, he seemed rusty af across the board so he definitely wasn't training. Kishimoto, who also quit after 33, is also apparently injured, though his Instagram suggests otherwise. I presume he's too scared of competing in fear of failing the first obstacle again or something. - Kong has kind of gone MIA in the past few years, but there was a photo of him at Mori's gym recently which is the only thing about him I've seen since like 36 http://instagr.am/p/CdfG_Dkpquq Safe to say he's packed on a few pounds compared to his hay day so isn't intent on returning lol. - I'm not sure about why Lee was replaced by Liao, but I never really understood this beyond it being 'due to politics' which could be anything. I mean Lee was a former finalist who also had a few 1st place finishes, and was pretty popular among the community, and ends up getting repeatedly replaced by someone who has failed Stage 1 and has also been cut in all of his appearances. Unless it had to do something with his age, but 39 (which is how old he was when he last competed) really isn't old proven by the fact he made Stage 3 in said run, and I've seen his Instagram photos and the dude just does not age. Even compared to like Kane or Yuuji, the guy barely looks a day older than when he competed in Sasuke, and still does a load of athletics. - I heard somewhere (can't remember where) that Rene was invited but had scheduling conflicts between Sasuke and his "Let's Dance" appearances. He definitely wouldn't have been shirked by Inui after his run in 37, he even said in an interview that he was automatically invited for 38 which was meant to happen in Summer 2020 but then COVID hit and the rest was history. I presume Oliver was probably a stand-in for him as a fellow German, and then they figured why not invite his equally athletic wife as well, especially as they needed more strong women; either way, I struggle to believe he'd invite Jessie and not Rene (I love Jessie but she ain't making the Final Stage). - Levi quit parkour and Ninja Warrior like 10 years ago, and became a farmer. He even has a YouTube channel, where there's still a lot of Ninja stuff on it from 10+ years ago but his most recent videos are about agriculture and renewable energy etc. In terms of who else didn't compete, we had Darvish, Takeru, Wasabi, and Mori. Darvish honestly I could take or leave, I don't dislike him because he's a celebrity but his results haven't been anything amazing and some of his reactions were quite grating at times. I do think he deserves some redemption though purely because all of his last three fails have been screwed over (37 and 39 from weather, 38 from the DG malfunction). Takeru and Wasabi probably had scheduling conflicts; Takeru was in USA at the time of taping while Wasabi was training a lot this year but didn't compete for unknown reasons. It's probably a longshot to say that Mori would've competed given that he didn't attend 38 or 39, but he sustained an Achilles injury about a week prior to taping regardless. |
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Post by Miko on Jan 3, 2023 20:58:43 GMT -5
Do we have any factual information of why Wreath Man just disappeared? Last time I heard it was something to do with him appearing on SASUKE competitor but that's it.
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Post by brz0ny on Jan 4, 2023 3:11:45 GMT -5
Do we have any factual information of why Wreath Man just disappeared? Last time I heard it was something to do with him appearing on SASUKE competitor but that's it. That is all we know so it looks like Inui is super petty. |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 4, 2023 15:27:08 GMT -5
Do we have any factual information of why Wreath Man just disappeared? Last time I heard it was something to do with him appearing on SASUKE competitor but that's it. That is all we know so it looks like Inui is super petty. The long standing rumour is that he supposedly got ‘banned’ after appearing on competitor show KuroOvi after Sasuke 34, which was obviously his last appearance. He also got triple digested in 34 so he might’ve done a Yamada and pissed Inui off by some other means, but yeah. I’d say coincidence I think not with that one…. |
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Post by cb on Jan 4, 2023 16:25:31 GMT -5
That is all we know so it looks like Inui is super petty. The long standing rumour is that he supposedly got ‘banned’ after appearing on competitor show KuroOvi after Sasuke 34, which was obviously his last appearance. He also got triple digested in 34 so he might’ve done a Yamada and pissed Inui off by some other means, but yeah. I’d say coincidence I think not with that one…. Koji Saikawa also competed on KuroOvi so that rumour can be debunked. I think Ragivaru just lost interest or had other things going on with his life. |
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Post by brz0ny on Jan 5, 2023 3:32:05 GMT -5
The long standing rumour is that he supposedly got ‘banned’ after appearing on competitor show KuroOvi after Sasuke 34, which was obviously his last appearance. He also got triple digested in 34 so he might’ve done a Yamada and pissed Inui off by some other means, but yeah. I’d say coincidence I think not with that one…. Koji Saikawa also competed on KuroOvi so that rumour can be debunked. I think Ragivaru just lost interest or had other things going on with his life. Not really because Saikawa competed in KuroOvi before he was in Sasuke. |
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Post by subtleagent on Jan 8, 2023 8:35:31 GMT -5
I kind of miss seeing Naoya Tajima. Dude just vanished into thin air after 27. Guy would've been perfect for modern Stage 3 and the guy is only 37 so it's not like he's really that old.
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 8, 2023 18:54:27 GMT -5
I kind of miss seeing Naoya Tajima. Dude just vanished into thin air after 27. Guy would've been perfect for modern Stage 3 and the guy is only 37 so it's not like he's really that old. “37 isn’t that old” - Kanno has left the room. But yeah I’ve actually been trying to find any evidence of him on social media unsuccessfully, he literally has vanished. I’d honestly argue his Stage 3 performance was probably the most impressive out of anyone bar maybe Yuuji in 24, well at least until he did you know what. He literally showed zero signs of fatigue as well as him being able to pull himself up on the Spider Flip with his arms only. He was quite inconsistent though, and seemingly had a penchant for choking mentally. He could’ve been great on today’s Stage 3 but could’ve also easily become a Ryo or Kishimoto like competitor. I personally always wondered how Hashimoto would’ve done if he didn’t have scoliosis (I know it’s a bit of a weird thing to say but yeah). He was easily a Top 3 competitor for a while, had a near miss on Kanzen in 24 and I’d argue also 27, and was pretty consistent bar a couple of blips here and there. He could’ve probably reached the Final in 30 as he was definitely better upper body wise than Tomohiro and really not far at all off Ryo. He could’ve really been a force to be reckoned with if he hadn’t got unlucky health wise. Huge shame. |
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Post by subtleagent on Jan 8, 2023 20:03:51 GMT -5
I personally always wondered how Hashimoto would’ve done if he didn’t have scoliosis (I know it’s a bit of a weird thing to say but yeah). He was easily a Top 3 competitor for a while, had a near miss on Kanzen in 24 and I’d argue also 27, and was pretty consistent bar a couple of blips here and there. He could’ve probably reached the Final in 30 as he was definitely better upper body wise than Tomohiro and really not far at all off Ryo. He could’ve really been a force to be reckoned with if he hadn’t got unlucky health wise. Huge shame. SASUKE 30 - Crazy Cliffhanger SASUKE 31 - Tsuna Nobori SASUKE 32 - Vertical Limit SASUKE 33 - Flying Bar SASUKE 34 - Vertical Limit SASUKE 35 - Dragon Glider SASUKE 36 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan SASUKE 37 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan SASUKE 38 - Wall Lifting SASUKE 39 - Swing Edge SASUKE 40 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan I reckon he'd be a consistent Third Stage goer at minimum given he had the right physique for the current course. I said Flying Bar for 33 because the thing was literally broken and Vertical Limit for 32 and 34 since that combo was impossible. Not too sure about the Jugo Dan tbh given it has shown to be rather lethal to even Yusuke who's missed it a couple times. Also I think 38's Rolling Log could shake him up good given it gave even Sato some problems. Obviously in the actual 40 he failed the Fish Bone but this is the handicapped, out of practice for 9 years Hashimoto, with training and better health he could just annihilate this current course. Obvs he could still pull a Ryo on the Rolling Hill or somewhere other, but I see him being a Sato plus in terms of consistency. |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 8, 2023 20:24:07 GMT -5
SASUKE 30 - Crazy Cliffhanger SASUKE 31 - Tsuna Nobori SASUKE 32 - Vertical Limit SASUKE 33 - Flying Bar SASUKE 34 - Vertical Limit SASUKE 35 - Dragon Glider SASUKE 36 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan SASUKE 37 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan SASUKE 38 - Wall Lifting SASUKE 39 - Swing Edge SASUKE 40 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan Lol that's very optimistic, you really reckon he would've reached the Final Stage 5 times (if you include is 24 run)? It's honestly impossible to tell, given how many competitors we've seen drop off suddenly for reasons x, y, z. I'd say he was very consistent, but definitely not immune to failing early as shown by 28, also the fact that his stint was pretty short means I have less confidence in him having a lot of longevity. He was consistent for the time he competed, but he only seriously competed for about 3 or so years, so there's less evidence to suggest he wouldn't have hit a decline at some point. I'm not sure about 5 Final Stage appearances, that would literally tie Nagano and Yusuke lol. Another Final Stage though is definitely not out of the question, he would've easily made it back there in 27 if it wasn't for the Chain See-Saw, which was a freak accident not due to lack of capability. And he was an incredibly well rounded competitor across all stages - he had immense upper body strength, but wasn't bad at the more strength based stuff like Yuuji and Ryo infamously are. I'd say 30 was probably his best shot at the Final Stage, I think he could've easily been undone in 31 by either the Tackle+Wall or the new Vertical Limit modification as even Yusuke struggled a lot on the latter. I could reasonably see him getting to the Vertical Limit a few more times, if guys like Yuuji, Ryo, Drew etc. couldn't get past it then I don't think Hashimoto would either. He'd have a shot in 37 too given the nerfed course, provided he wouldn't get screwed over by the wet weather and he was still with it physically. But on any of these tournaments he could've failed the Fish Bone when it was new/modified or the Dragon Glider too, a lot of the big names have failed these obstacles at least once. Honestly though it's too difficult to call, especially in the more recent tournaments where he'd be pushing 40, given that age seems to not affect certain competitors in the slightest but others it hits them like a brick wall. Pretty much none of the Shin Sedai bar Yuuji have aged well, and even he had a pretty bad slump a few years ago. |
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Post by hoseasasuke on Jan 8, 2023 23:49:06 GMT -5
I personally always wondered how Hashimoto would’ve done if he didn’t have scoliosis (I know it’s a bit of a weird thing to say but yeah). He was easily a Top 3 competitor for a while, had a near miss on Kanzen in 24 and I’d argue also 27, and was pretty consistent bar a couple of blips here and there. He could’ve probably reached the Final in 30 as he was definitely better upper body wise than Tomohiro and really not far at all off Ryo. He could’ve really been a force to be reckoned with if he hadn’t got unlucky health wise. Huge shame. SASUKE 30 - Crazy Cliffhanger SASUKE 31 - Tsuna Nobori SASUKE 32 - Vertical Limit SASUKE 33 - Flying Bar SASUKE 34 - Vertical Limit SASUKE 35 - Dragon Glider SASUKE 36 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan SASUKE 37 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan SASUKE 38 - Wall Lifting SASUKE 39 - Swing Edge SASUKE 40 - Salmon Ladder Jugo Dan I reckon he'd be a consistent Third Stage goer at minimum given he had the right physique for the current course. I said Flying Bar for 33 because the thing was literally broken and Vertical Limit for 32 and 34 since that combo was impossible. Not too sure about the Jugo Dan tbh given it has shown to be rather lethal to even Yusuke who's missed it a couple times. Also I think 38's Rolling Log could shake him up good given it gave even Sato some problems. Obviously in the actual 40 he failed the Fish Bone but this is the handicapped, out of practice for 9 years Hashimoto, with training and better health he could just annihilate this current course. Obvs he could still pull a Ryo on the Rolling Hill or somewhere other, but I see him being a Sato plus in terms of consistency. In 32, he wouldn't have made it that far. If he had made it that far in 31, he would probably have been given #97 in 32 as that was the tournament Nagano retired. Guess what happened to Tomo, the original #97 of that tournament. |
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Jan 12, 2023 13:35:23 GMT -5
Really would've liked to have seen Shogo and especially Washimi given they were both in the trials, and I didn't watch the trials so I don't know how athletic he was in them but I feel like the guy may have had a genuine shot at temporarily being the oldest Stage One clear. Aside from that I'm not too sad, yeah it would've been nice to have Bunpei and Takeda but I don't want them to risk their health and most others who I'd personally want to see back probably wouldn't have a chance of doing very well anymore, barring possibly Wreath Man.
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 12, 2023 13:58:44 GMT -5
Really would've liked to have seen Shogo and especially Washimi given they were both in the trials, and I didn't watch the trials so I don't know how athletic he was in them but I feel like the guy may have had a genuine shot at temporarily being the oldest Stage One clear. Aside from that I'm not too sad, yeah it would've been nice to have Bunpei and Takeda but I don't want them to risk their health and most others who I'd personally want to see back probably wouldn't have a chance of doing very well anymore, barring possibly Wreath Man. Yep, instead we got someone who failed on the Rolling Hill, lol. Inui has been brutal with disinviting competitors recently, like Washimi was last man standing on one of the most difficult tournaments in Sasuke history, while Ugajin narrowly missed a potential Stage 3 run, which if he reached Stage 3 he probably would've been invited back/not shirked like he was before. It basically seems that anything short of a Stage 3 run at this point for a non-celebrity means no guarantee you'll get invited back, hell, even Iketani who IS a celebrity and HAS made Stage 3 (albeit a long time ago) got declined from 39. I guess whatever gives him an excuse to keep inviting Soshina and Seiya and co in their stead...... |
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Jan 12, 2023 17:00:01 GMT -5
Really would've liked to have seen Shogo and especially Washimi given they were both in the trials, and I didn't watch the trials so I don't know how athletic he was in them but I feel like the guy may have had a genuine shot at temporarily being the oldest Stage One clear. Aside from that I'm not too sad, yeah it would've been nice to have Bunpei and Takeda but I don't want them to risk their health and most others who I'd personally want to see back probably wouldn't have a chance of doing very well anymore, barring possibly Wreath Man. Yep, instead we got someone who failed on the Rolling Hill, lol. Inui has been brutal with disinviting competitors recently, like Washimi was last man standing on one of the most difficult tournaments in Sasuke history, while Ugajin narrowly missed a potential Stage 3 run, which if he reached Stage 3 he probably would've been invited back/not shirked like he was before. It basically seems that anything short of a Stage 3 run at this point for a non-celebrity means no guarantee you'll get invited back, hell, even Iketani who IS a celebrity and HAS made Stage 3 (albeit a long time ago) got declined from 39. I guess whatever gives him an excuse to keep inviting Soshina and Seiya and co in their stead...... Out of curiosity, how far do you think Washimi, Shogo and Kosuke Yamaguchi could've gotten if they made it in? I'd personally say anywhere from Dragon Glider to a Stage Two time out for Washimi, a Stage Two timeout to Swing Edge for Shogo and probably a Dragon Glider fail for Yamaguchi. |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 12, 2023 18:21:00 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, how far do you think Washimi, Shogo and Kosuke Yamaguchi could've gotten if they made it in? I'd personally say anywhere from Dragon Glider to a Stage Two time out for Washimi, a Stage Two timeout to Swing Edge for Shogo and probably a Dragon Glider fail for Yamaguchi. With Washimi I have no idea; I thought he'd retired but allegedly had still been trying to get on to the show since his last appearance in 29 albeit unsuccessfully. Assuming he's been training regularly though, I'd agree with you. Ugajin I've seen has been training a fair bit and he did narrowly miss Stage 3 last time, while Yamaguchi's probably very out of practice, so again agree with you on those too. I still cannot believe Sho Ishikawa got eliminated in the first round, the dude is an absolute monster. It just showed how poor the selection process for the trials were. Sure, he probably would've failed Stage 1 like Iwasaki did, but Inui doesn't seem to realize that pretty much every prolific competitor has a rocky start to their career. If Yusuke, Hioki, Kawaguchi, Tada, Yuuji etc. all got effectively blacklisted after they failed Stage 1 in their first few runs (which they all did), then the show as we know it may not have existed lol. If someone has potential, at least to the degree that Ishikawa and Iwasaki do, then they should at least get a few tries to prove what they're made of, if they keep choking (*cough* Matsuda *cough*) then yeah maybe not. But I feel like Inui is missing out on some serious heat; if a monkey bar and dead hang world record holder took 15 years to get on the show while we still get a load of rookies failing the Rolling Hill idk what to say anymore. |
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Post by kanzenbella on Jan 13, 2023 2:30:59 GMT -5
Rene. I dont know the reason why he wasnt there but if they decided to invite Edelmanns instead of him then I am speechless. I'd like to see all three back next time, along with Jessie. Was honestly shocked not to see Rene in the line-up. Honestly I know he's polarizing, but it felt a bit weird not having Darvish this tournament, especially being the 40th anniversary and all. |
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