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Post by subtleagent on Dec 28, 2022 23:32:37 GMT -5
Well... I think this gives Akiyama in 9 and Lee in 27 a run for their money. It also is a bit upsetting because now Inui has more reason to keep the f***ing Rolling Hill. Though my earlier hunch was correct that he was able to shrug it off unlike 31 ~ 35 where he was clearly devastated. I was legit stunned when I watched that happen. Like I know I said Ryo's tactic of rushing to the Tackle is dangerous, but I didn't expect him to biff it that early.
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Post by hoseasasuke on Dec 29, 2022 1:00:36 GMT -5
Yuuji in 33 in my opinion was just as bad as the three fails you mentioned. He wasn't rushing, he was focused, then he just...failed. He even had to upload an apology video on YouTube after that fail lol
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Post by kanzenbella on Dec 29, 2022 3:43:49 GMT -5
It's getting a bit frustrating to watch Ryo. He absolutely has it in him to win and youth is on his side, but he's wasting so many opportunities by approaching the course so carelessly. I wish he would just train for the Tackle rather than rely on speeding through the obstacles before it.
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Post by Mk20SSR on Dec 29, 2022 3:54:10 GMT -5
Even Kane feels awkward after his run. The mentor that guided him throughout the start of his training to finish failed in this manner.
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 29, 2022 8:55:42 GMT -5
He definitely was rushing, there was no reason for him to go as fast as he did especially given his shorter legs making the transition more difficult. It was very reckless and he looked off from the get to, even before he transitioned to the Rolling Hill I was sort of like ‘uh oh’ as he looked like he was about to trip or something. Like I think he carried too much momentum and it threw him off balance to the point he had to just jump on to the rollers without checking his footing, which is obviously what caused them to spin and him to ultimately fail.
Honestly I have no idea why he did this, the fact that he beat two wet walls in 39 should’ve been proof that he’s overcome that hurdle at least physically. It gives me Sasuke 37 vibes, which is pretty annoying because I thought after 38-39 he’d turned a corner but he still has some of those tendencies in him.
The worst thing though was that this was a huge waste of potential. If it was Isa or someone then I wouldn’t care, but he was a genuine Final Stage candidate and threw it all away within 5 seconds. I just hope that he doesn’t do a 31 and let this setback screw him over for future runs, instead hopefully this will be the hard truth he needs to realise he can’t just rush the first half of Stage 1, as if his fail in 37 didn’t consolidate that already (which given what happened this time it obviously didn’t).
I’d say his fail was probably worse than Yuuji in 33 or Akiyama in 9 as in both cases those competitors were on downward spirals anyway, making them still surprising though much less ‘out of nowhere’, rather than Ryo who seemed like he was back on form and then delivers….. that. Lee in 27 was obviously also a shock but I just kind of felt bad for him as he just grabbed the rope too low and was a taller competitor anyway; much more of a case of bad luck than bafflingly poor technique like Ryo’s was.
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Dec 29, 2022 9:34:17 GMT -5
Had Ryo chilled, he would've probably made it deep into Stage 3, possibly even to the Final Stage. Alas it wasn't meant to be.
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Post by brz0ny on Dec 29, 2022 15:56:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know what was the biggest improvement on the previous result in Sasuke because Ryo could set that record in 41.
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Post by ahzoo on Dec 29, 2022 16:44:17 GMT -5
Does anyone know what was the biggest improvement on the previous result in Sasuke because Ryo could set that record in 41. Off the top of my head, either Nagano 10 -> 11, or Yuuji 26 -> 27 Depends if you consider going from failing obstacle 4 of Stage 1 to being a bad transition away from a Kanzen to be more impressive than failing obstacle 5 of Stage 1 and actually pulling a Kanzen off. Either way, it's arguable he'd match that with a Pipe Slider fail upwards, and while I can't discount it as an impossibility, it's still sadly unlikely.
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Post by brz0ny on Dec 29, 2022 16:48:55 GMT -5
Does anyone know what was the biggest improvement on the previous result in Sasuke because Ryo could set that record in 41. Off the top of my head, either Nagano 10 -> 11, or Yuuji 26 -> 27 Depends if you consider going from failing obstacle 4 of Stage 1 to being a bad transition away from a Kanzen to be more impressive than failing obstacle 5 of Stage 1 and actually pulling a Kanzen off. Either way, it's arguable he'd match that with a Pipe Slider fail upwards, and while I can't discount it as an impossibility, it's still sadly unlikely. He can still realistically do it if you count the difference in obstacle numbers.
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Post by ahzoo on Dec 29, 2022 17:21:39 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, either Nagano 10 -> 11, or Yuuji 26 -> 27 Depends if you consider going from failing obstacle 4 of Stage 1 to being a bad transition away from a Kanzen to be more impressive than failing obstacle 5 of Stage 1 and actually pulling a Kanzen off. Either way, it's arguable he'd match that with a Pipe Slider fail upwards, and while I can't discount it as an impossibility, it's still sadly unlikely. He can still realistically do it if you count the difference in obstacle numbers. Hence why I said it;d be arguable from the Pipe Slider upwards; as we're starting at obstacle 2, not 4/5, To fully show my working, if we want to actually look at it via the amount of obstacles that were cleared the second time out, Nagano beat 14/15 more obstacles in 11 than he did in 10 [depending on how one likes to count the Brick Climb], and Yuuji beat 18 more obstacles. To tie Nagano, assuming no current course changes, that takes us all the way up to obstacle 16/17, currently the Flying Bar/Sidewinder combo, and again, which one you deem it necessary to best depends on if you count the bricks or not; to tie Yuuji, getting to Obstacle 20 requires him to reach the Vertical Limit Kai. However, as the Q asks for him to unambiguously break this record, Ryo must not only reach the VLK, but also best it, at which point, the earliest feasible failure point is, you guessed it, the Pipe Slider. This likewise kinda helpfully ties into the respective perceptions of all of the failure points involved, and would, going off the Pipe Slider once again becoming a legitimate final obstacle that will test your worthiness of making the Final Stage, and the fact that the Rolling Hill is de facto the first obstacle to pose any decent threat, gut feeling alone would call it analogous to going from the midpoint of Stage 1 to a Kanzen in most debates that would arise from such an inprovement and it's claim to the title of biggest ever. Ofc, this all overlooks the possibility of changes to Stage 1 and potentially Stage 2, so, maybe Ryo could get away with failing the VLK or the Cliff hanger Dimension [thanks, Higuchi!] if and when the happens, but it sadly depends on the specifics of the course changes involved, and, in any case, there would still be a lot of raw emotion involved in comparing such a comeback to the fully mythical legend of a Kanzen. TLDR: Who knows?, but my money's still on "unlikely" lol.
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Post by brz0ny on Dec 29, 2022 17:24:02 GMT -5
He can still realistically do it if you count the difference in obstacle numbers. Hence why I said it;d be arguable from the Pipe Slider upwards; as we're starting at obstacle 2, not 4/5, To fully show my working, if we want to actually look at it via the amount of obstacles that were cleared the second time out, Nagano beat 14/15 more obstacles in 11 than he did in 10 [depending on how one likes to count the Brick Climb], and Yuuji beat 18 more obstacles. To tie Nagano, assuming no current course changes, that takes us all the way up to obstacle 16/17, currently the Flying Bar/Sidewinder combo, and again, which one you deem it necessary to best depends on if you count the bricks or not; to tie Yuuji, getting to Obstacle 20 requires him to reach the Vertical Limit Kai. However, as the Q asks for him to unambiguously break this record, Ryo must not only reach the VLK, but also best it, at which point, the earliest feasible failure point is, you guessed it, the Pipe Slider. This likewise kinda helpfully ties into the respective perceptions of all of the failure points involved, and would, going off the Pipe Slider once again becoming a legitimate final obstacle that will test your worthiness of making the Final Stage, and the fact that the Rolling Hill is de facto the first obstacle to pose any decent threat, gut feeling alone would call it analogous to going from the midpoint of Stage 1 to a Kanzen in most debates that would arise from such an inprovement and it's claim to the title of biggest ever. Ofc, this all overlooks the possibility of changes to Stage 1 and potentially Stage 2, so, maybe Ryo could get away with failing the VLK or the Cliff hanger Dimension [thanks, Higuchi!] if and when the happens, but it sadly depends on the specifics of the course changes involved, and, in any case, there would still be a lot of raw emotion involved in comparing such a comeback to the fully mythical legend of a Kanzen. TLDR: Who knows?, but my money's still on "unlikely" lol. Its Ryo tho, absolutely everything is possible to see from him.
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Post by azn on Dec 29, 2022 21:49:22 GMT -5
Dare I say...He's the most inconsistent competitor the show's ever seen?
If his fail in SK37 wasn't definitive enough, this one proves he can fail literally anywhere on the course.
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Post by Miko on Dec 30, 2022 2:23:42 GMT -5
Dare I say...He's the most inconsistent competitor the show's ever seen? If his fail in SK37 wasn't definitive enough, this one proves he can fail literally anywhere on the course. Good take. He's a two-time finalist who can clear any obstacle (any Cliffhanger, Vertical Limit, Pipe Slider, even Wall Lifting) but also fail any obstacle as evidenced by his track record of fails at Rolling Hill, Fish Bone, Soritatsu Kabe and Salmon Ladder Nobori. His inconsistency is just boosted by the fact that he also failed First Stage 5 times in a row after his most recend visit in Final Stage. There have been other competitors with wildly inconsistent track record but surely no one matches nor beats Ryo's long inconsistent streak.
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Post by kanzenbella on Dec 30, 2022 19:56:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know what was the biggest improvement on the previous result in Sasuke because Ryo could set that record in 41. Off the top of my head, either Nagano 10 -> 11, or Yuuji 26 -> 27 Depends if you consider going from failing obstacle 4 of Stage 1 to being a bad transition away from a Kanzen to be more impressive than failing obstacle 5 of Stage 1 and actually pulling a Kanzen off. Either way, it's arguable he'd match that with a Pipe Slider fail upwards, and while I can't discount it as an impossibility, it's still sadly unlikely. also Shingo in SASUKE 6 to SASUKE 7. Went from failing the Rolling Log to making the final stage.
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 30, 2022 20:06:27 GMT -5
Eiichi Miura could qualify as well. Goes from a first obstacle fail in Sasuke 3 to the end of the Pipe Slider in 4.
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Post by subtleagent on Dec 30, 2022 23:47:42 GMT -5
Shinji Kobayashi from 13 to 14? Went from failing the Jump Hang to getting to the Devil Balanco on a longer course.
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Post by cactustiger on Dec 31, 2022 5:10:54 GMT -5
Most disappointing competitor. Even if he can’t do tackle he doesn’t need to go that fast
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Post by zoran on Jan 1, 2023 16:52:00 GMT -5
I thought his fail was pretty funny watching especially the deafening silence. I think it was just an underestimation on his part and dumb mistake, I don't think it means he has some big psychological issues preventing him from doing well. Hopefully he and any future competitors will learn from that mistake and it will not happen again.
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 1, 2023 17:16:15 GMT -5
I just rewatched his Paravi run.
It was definitely obvious that he lost his balance after the 2nd step because he was carrying way too much momentum into the obstacle. To the point that when he dived for the Rolling Hill he couldn't control his direction - ideally you go right, left, right, left, and then somewhat right so that you land in the centre of the roller. He was going so fast that he didn't have the time to go right, which led to his right foot landing very far left on the roller and his left foot kind of tripped over his right as there was no space for his left foot. This obviously culminated in a really dodgy attempt to get his left foot on to the next roller which caused them to roll backwards and that was that.
He took the same approach on the steps in 39 but went a fair bit slower, maybe because it was raining and he wanted to be extra careful, here it just looked he ran way too head first into the obstacle and then lost his control which screwed with his rhythm.
I feel pretty bad but having watched the Paravi slow-mo it made the whole thing quite funny lol. Especially as he was one of the most highlighted competitors on the YouTube channel and there was even a documentary video on him titled '.... FINAL ...' a couple of days before the broadcast, and then he delivers that.....
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 1, 2023 17:20:31 GMT -5
Dare I say...He's the most inconsistent competitor the show's ever seen? If his fail in SK37 wasn't definitive enough, this one proves he can fail literally anywhere on the course. Definitely in the Top 3, and the most inconsistent competitor who doesn't wear red shorts. I'd say Akiyama was probably more inconsistent, as it's pretty hard to beat a Kanzen and a first obstacle fail within 3 years of one another. Shinya Kishimoto as well. Decimates the Crazy Cliffhanger and almost makes the Final, but then fails the Quad Steps twice.
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