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Post by davidcampbell on Jul 11, 2009 3:00:27 GMT -5
Here's another video of the Same guy "Chris Sharma" I like his videos because you can see how hard he's working.
This guy's rad too, insane actually. "Dan Osman" He makes it look easy though! #1 (where's his safety rope?!?!?!)
#2 (That puff of smoke at 5:15 is chalk from his bag!)
#3 (he talks about technique a bit and finally uses a rope!)
Dan Osman is no longer with us by the way, he climbed his way to heaven.....or did he fall to hell? Well either way. Surprisingly it wasn't the free climbing that killed him, it was his cliff jumping. After his world record setting cliff jump, he left the rope up in the weather and sun for a week and when he came back to collect the ropes decided to jump one more time and well, the rope had oxidized and broke. That would be a good way to go though....big thrill and then lights out.
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Post by davidcampbell on Jul 11, 2009 3:32:16 GMT -5
That looks about like what I climbed aside from the overhanging parts. The wall I climbed wasn't nice and flat, but it didn't have overhanging parts. Also, that one sort of looked easier because the grips were big enough for him to hook his fingers onto and hang from. The ones I was gripping onto were not. So. Yep. Oti: No matter what you say, you didn't climb a 5.12 untill you go to a real climbing facility and climb and expert route, that's been set by and expert. Not some dinky portable fair wall, I've climed those, and while it varies depending on who sets the routes in my experience they've been intermediate at best, not even advanced and not even in the ballpark of expert. And you really can't tell how hard or easy it is by looking. I've watched people climb routs and been like "what, that looks easy, why is it rated 5.13?" attempted it myself and fell off after like 5 seconds. Heh and to top it off the person I was watching was an 18 year old girl with not much muscle definition, but tons of technique. And about Sasuke: Levi. He found out about the course two months before he attempted it. He didn't train on replicas like we do. Levi fell on the Cliffhanger because he hadn't practiced it, he didn't know the little "rocking motion with hands apart, swing back , hands together, jump" And Muscle Park doesn't count as practice since it's all geasy and he still wasn't taught/hadn't figured out the technique after leaving. Even after I mentally figured out the cliffhanger technique my first couple completions were sloppy untill I got the feel of it from a short amout of practice/experience. Ok I'm done with this topic. I mean unless someone has something intellegent to say or questions about climbing or something. And Oti, I don't hate you and I'm not mad at you. I went through a phase too, when I was about 15 where I just thought I knew everything about everything! I think I'm almost out of that phase! I wonder if that happens to women too or just us guys?
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Post by davidcampbell on Jul 11, 2009 3:44:47 GMT -5
oh sorry, one last thing I forgot... Those overhangs you mentioned are kind of a big part of what makes it hard.
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Post by Oti on Jul 11, 2009 6:02:47 GMT -5
I'm not trying to come off like I know everything, I'm just trying to let everyone know you don't need a ton of rock climbing experience to be a good rock climber.
But, since you're done in this topic... see ya.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 11, 2009 9:40:18 GMT -5
Levi fell on the Cliffhanger because he hadn't practiced it, he didn't know the little "rocking motion with hands apart, swing back , hands together, jump" And Muscle Park doesn't count as practice since it's all geasy and he still wasn't taught/hadn't figured out the technique after leaving. Not to mention that, when he first went to muscle park before 20 it was the old cliffhanger, the third version from 9 through 17 and not the Shin Cliffhanger
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Post by arsenette on Jul 11, 2009 13:37:34 GMT -5
I wonder if that happens to women too or just us guys? Yes and no - I know a lot of my arguments are quite different than most women. Most women go purely on emotion with much nashing of teeth and arm waving while I try to stick to facts as I was taught in debate class At the same age I was in a different place though. I forced people to prove against my point and in this case Oti hasn't. Having not seen the course at all I do know for a fact that Nothing portable in a fair/festival is considered expert. By it's very nature it can't be since it's supposed to appeal to a mass audience (and quite frankly they don't have the insurance to cover the course..)...
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Post by Oti on Jul 11, 2009 14:17:40 GMT -5
Even if it wasn't a real expert course, that doesn't mean you couldn't conquer one with no rock climbing experience.
So, we're both kinda screwed. Neither of us have evidence to support our claims.
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