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Post by kanzenbella on Dec 28, 2022 19:15:13 GMT -5
S Tier - 17, 11, 23, 4, 8, 31, 19 A Tier - 27, 24, 15, 12, 36, 3, 5, 35, 1 B Tier - 10, 22, 21, 38, 16, 6, 34 C Tier - 30, 14, 37, 9, 13, 7, 2 D Tier - 18, 25, 32, 39, 29 F Tier - 26, 33, 20, 28 hi this is definitely not my list anymore... gonna do some rethinking now that 40 aired. |
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Post by ahzoo on Dec 29, 2022 7:14:45 GMT -5
Yeah, my list, also changed a lot, and while I initially went back and edited it to reflect that, I nie realise that such a move is rather incredibly Orwellian lol, and so, I'll restore the old list to its former glory, but for the sake of honesty, my new, and updated list:
SSR / Cream of the Crop - 8, 12, 17, 25
S / All-Time Greats - 4, 15, 16, 40
A / Pretty Good - 11, 14, 22, 36
B+ / Fun Watches - 5, 21, 30, 31
B- / Underrated - 9, 27, 35, 37
C / Mixed Bag - 1, 13, 18, 38
D+ / Bad, but not Unsalvageable - 2, 3, 6, 39
D- / Tainted - 7, 10, 23, 24
E / Aged Like Fine Milk - 19, 20, 34
F / How Not To Do SASUKE - 26, 28, 32, 33
F-- / THE ABSOLUTE WORST - 29
As for why 23, and 24 are "Tainted", Nagano should've Kanzened in 23, and 24 is just a mistake of a tournament in the long-run, even if it was cool to watch.
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Post by casuallystranded on Dec 29, 2022 12:51:18 GMT -5
Alright so I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but I don't care. Each category is sorted by airdate, not by preference.
A+: 27
A: 8, 24, 30
B: 18, 23, 25, 26, 37, 40
C: 1, 4, 9, 12, 13, 16, 17, 22, RISING, 31, 35, 36
D: 2, 3, 10, 21, 38, 39
D-: 7, 11, 29, 32, 34
F: 5, 6, 14, 15, 33
Bruh: 19, 20
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 29, 2022 15:00:40 GMT -5
Yeah, my list, also changed a lot, and while I initially went back and edited it to reflect that, I nie realise that such a move is rather incredibly Orwellian lol, and so, I'll restore the old list to its former glory, but for the sake of honesty, my new, and updated list: SSR / Cream of the Crop - 8, 12, 17, 25 S / All-Time Greats - 4, 15, 16, 40 A / Pretty Good - 11, 14, 22, 36 B+ / Fun Watches - 5, 21, 30, 31 B- / Underrated - 9, 27, 35, 37 C / Mixed Bag - 1, 13, 18, 38 D+ / Bad, but not Unsalvageable - 2, 3, 6, 39 D- / Tainted - 7, 10, 23, 24 E / Aged Like Fine Milk - 19, 20, 34 F / How Not To Do SASUKE - 26, 28, 32, 33 F-- / THE ABSOLUTE WORST - 29 As for why 23, and 24 are "Tainted", Nagano should've Kanzened in 23, and 24 is just a mistake of a tournament in the long-run, even if it was cool to watch. Lol what made you change to 29 as the singular worst? Don't get me wrong, I agree it's a terrible tournament in almost every way. Too many asterisks; the Backstream controversy, Yusuke's run being tainted by the fact he shouldn't have been allowed to clear Stage 2 and being allowed 5 minutes to rest before the Cliffhanger, the bs Stage 3 timer that ended up being useless as everyone who made it that far got selected for the ASEAN cup anyway, etc. But I always forget about 29 because it came after 28 which always branded it as the sort of 'lesser of two evils'. I personally found 28's 'quirks' way more offensive. |
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 29, 2022 15:05:41 GMT -5
Alright so I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but I don't care. Each category is sorted by airdate, not by preference. A+: 27A: 8, 24, 30 B: 18, 23, 25, 26, 37, 40 C: 1, 4, 9, 12, 13, 16, 17, 22, RISING, 31, 35, 36 D: 2, 3, 10, 21, 38, 39 D-: 7, 11, 29, 32, 34 F: 5, 6, 14, 15, 33 Bruh: 19, 20Wow that is very controversial indeed. I've never seen anyone rank 26 and 28 above like the bottom 10 tournaments, as well as ranking 5, 11, and 14 that low. 27 is probably the only tournament that I personally don't like very much but can absolutely see why someone would rank it that high. Of course I respect your opinion, just interested to hear your thoughts about the above. |
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Post by casuallystranded on Dec 29, 2022 16:00:42 GMT -5
Alright so I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but I don't care. Each category is sorted by airdate, not by preference. A+: 27A: 8, 24, 30 B: 18, 23, 25, 26, 37, 40 C: 1, 4, 9, 12, 13, 16, 17, 22, RISING, 31, 35, 36 D: 2, 3, 10, 21, 38, 39 D-: 7, 11, 29, 32, 34 F: 5, 6, 14, 15, 33 Bruh: 19, 20Alright I should probably go over what each rating means to me: A+: Absolutely amazing. The best I've ever seen. Sure, there are problems with editing, but nothing is perfect. If "We Created the World" by Softengine was a SASUKE tournament. A: Just barely under the line. Phenomenal courses/results, few minor annoyances here and there. B: These have a few issues (cough cough 26 cough cough), but they are enjoyable nonetheless C: This is where the problems start emerging. Maybe it's course design, maybe it's editing, maybe it's results, maybe they're just boring. These are still enjoyable to watch, but the issues get harder for me to ignore. D: The issues are unignorable at this point, these are boring af to watch (with the exception of 21's Second Stage; I still love that). 2 & 3 get a slight pass because they are so early, but still. D-: These are 5/10 at best. I have absolutely no interest in ever rewatching these. F: These are bad. Weak results, bland courses, & the fact that 14 was the only one on YouTube for a (thankfully) brief period of time. Bruh: You already know why. |
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Post by ahzoo on Dec 29, 2022 16:20:08 GMT -5
Lol what made you change to 29 as the singular worst? Don't get me wrong, I agree it's a terrible tournament in almost every way. Too many asterisks; the Backstream controversy, Yusuke's run being tainted by the fact he shouldn't have been allowed to clear Stage 2 and being allowed 5 minutes to rest before the Cliffhanger, the bs Stage 3 timer that ended up being useless as everyone who made it that far got selected for the ASEAN cup anyway, etc. But I always forget about 29 because it came after 28 which always branded it as the sort of 'lesser of two evils'. I personally found 28's 'quirks' way more offensive. I have come to see 29 as the singular worst for a simple reason - 28's quirks, and stupid decisions obfuscate what is honestly, a very good course, and a thing that could easily be salvaged - The first half of Stage 1 is legendary to this day, Stage 2 was filled with great first drafts of good ideas, and, as unbalanced as Stage 3 was, the Crazy Cliffhanger, the Vertical Limit, and the Iron Paddler were good ideas that were simply utilised poorly the first time round. Furthermore, for all of the crap that the bad obstacles in 28 got, in 28, they were merely a breath of frash air which would go on to be hated as they either were ruined, or overstayed their limited welcome. In light of this, 29's job was really rather easy - get rid of all of the pointless gimmicks, make amends for 28's forced retirements, and buff the course and competitor list to expand on 28's great starting point. Instead, what 29 actually did was double down on the gimmicks, make the flawed ideas within 28's course even more flawed [to the point of infamy in the case of the Backstream, and in the case of the Swap SL, adding in a stipulation that would render it infamous in 30], added pointless new gimmicks that actually affected the competitive balance, as opposed to merely being annoying, and, not content with simply that, promptly proceeded to tamper with the one principle that not even 26 nor 28 deigned to touch - namely that of fundemental fairness. If Inui actually were to release a Paravi cut of 28 that excised all of the Gala Nobody Asked to Be In, Box Lady, and pretended that the forced retirements had never happened, it could very quickly be reappraised as an average tournament, one that's inoffensive, and even has a good idea or two lying about [indeed, much the same can be said about 26 - hand either of these two to a competent editor, and you have at least a 5/10 tournament waiting for you at the other end]. Heck, if one were to do that to 28, then the tournament would actually make more sense in the grand scheme of things. When Inui goes to do a Paravi cut of 29, he will still have a tournament beset by bad ideas, asterisks, and nonsensically pointless changes at the end of it. The only thing which would change is that we would now be forced to watch the countless horrible issues this resulted in in all their sordid glory. He can never pretend that he didn't make the Backstream impossible, and in doing so, nearky drowned Yuuji. He can never pretend that he hadn't left a loophole in Stage 3's rules so massive that Morimoto could proceed to take a nap in the middle of the course free from consequences. He can never pretend that he didn't injure Nagano nor Okuyama, and forved the latter into early retirement as a result. The only thing that 29 has to show for itself at the end of the day, is the perfect lesson on how to ruin the core premise of SASUKE, and all that it stands for. THAT is why it stands alone in the halls of infamy. |
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Post by Miko on Dec 30, 2022 3:39:21 GMT -5
Atleast SASUKE 29 was memorable (for all wrong reasons, but still). Nagano's injury, Stage 2 fiascó, Morimoto sleeping, first Cliffhanger clear and some notable last runs. SASUKE 28 was so bland and boring and didn't offer anything interesting for rewatching purposes. No legendary runs, no insane moments and just the most bland possible tournament that exists. I might make my own tier list soon, that could be fun and I'd definitely rank 26 much higher than most of you seem to do. EDIT: I decided to make it straight away. This list is based on rewatching purposes. Every tournament is fun to watch for the first time, but they do differ on how many times you want to watch it again. S - The Best (The Tournament to watch dozens of times and never get bored of it) 17 A - Very good (Tournaments to watch over and over again but are not perfect due to editing or course issues) 1, 8, 11, 12, 13, 16, 23, 27, 29, 30, 31 B - The Middle (Tournaments that have equally both good and bad included) 4, 5, 7, 14, 18, 19, 21, 24, 26, D - Very bad (only one or two notable runs that might warrant rewatch) 2, 3, 6, 9, 10, 15, 20, 22, 25, 32, 40 F - The Worst (Absolutely no reason to watch it again) 28 N/A - I have not seen these 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 So, before jumping on to ''why and how this X tournament is higher than others'' reasons, I need to say that watching SASUKE in 2022 is hard as s*** and finding those tournaments that I've not seen is ridiculously hard. How in the hell TBS haven't put these up to watch in to some streaming service already is beyond me. Anyways, lets first discuss the best and the worst tournaments, since they're the most boring ones.
17 included Nagano's kanzenseisha and is the pinnacle of SASUKE for me. Luckily for me, it was also the best SASUKE when it comes course, editing and overall results. 2 finalists, Shiratori's last Stage 3 appearance, Ishimaru Kenjiro almost beating Stage 1 at the age of 52, Honma Kota being the youngest Stage 1 clear, PAUUUUUUUUUUUUL ANTHONY TEREK running the course like Travis did in SASUKE 4, surprising fails from great competitors and of course Nagano's run made it very much the most enjoyable SASUKE experience that one can have. As for SASUKE 28 being the worst, just read what I said at the top of this message; adding to that it's the only tournament I'd skip if I would rewatch all the tournaments again. It's that bad. Then for some ''why this and why that'' trivia: - You can obviously see some bias towards to Golden Era. For me, it's SASUKE at its best. Obviously they belong to the highest tier that isn't The Best. - SASUKE 29 and SASUKE 30 both included a lots of reasons to warrant rewatch later. There are some major flaws in both of those tournaments but man I love to watch them again and again. - In D tier I've included SASUKE 15, which wasn't that bad when it comes to course and results itself. Whole heat exhaustion and ''bunpei rising like a phoenix'' narrative just got old very fast and you can't deny that heat affected to results greatly. Worst Golden Era tournament for sure. - I think my rankings on The Middle tier is pretty good. All of those tournaments are great but also f***ing terrible., which means for rewatching purposes they're pretty even. High highs and low lows. I've always hated SASUKE 24, but even I can't deny that it has a lot of reasons to rewatch it. That's also why SASUKE 26 is in there, especially because of Okuyama's Stage 2 reason, which is my favorite run from any SASUKE competitor ever. - For sure SASUKE 40 has more runs to rewatch than other tournaments in D tier but the editing is so dogshit I honestly can't rate it any higher. The worst tournament with great results. |
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 30, 2022 15:25:18 GMT -5
^There is a service to watch Sasuke tournaments, at least 35-40, on Paravi. The issue is that it’s for Japanese viewers only. TBS are well known to make all their content exclusive to Japan.
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Post by kanzenbella on Dec 30, 2022 17:05:31 GMT -5
S: 5, 8, 11, 17, 19, 23, 24
A: 3, 4, 12, 15, 27, 31, 36, 40
B: 1, 6, 10, 16, 21, 22, 25, 30, 35, 37, 38
C: 2, 7, 9, 13, 14, 18, 34
D: 29, 32, 39
F: 20, 26, 28, 33
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25 has grown on me quite a bit as it's a way more watchable renewal tournament than the likes of 28, 32, and 39. 30 has grown a bit now that I've seen the uncut version.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jan 1, 2023 9:29:09 GMT -5
^ I agree with the above choices, for the most part. I'd perhaps move 24 downwards from S-tier to A-tier, and 12 upwards from A to S, but both these tournaments could go in either. It's also nice to see 19 get the appreciation it deserves from a few posts in this thread.
I'd also say 26 could be in C, despite the poor editing. There was enough dread and drama to make it interesting.
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 1, 2023 14:43:23 GMT -5
I've now added 40 to my list as an A, while I bumped both 38 and 39 down to D-tier.
I've never been someone who revamps their entire tier lists after a tournament airs, because it doesn't tend to affect my perspective of a tournament I've had 10+ years to reflect on and weigh up the pros and cons like a lot of the earlier tournaments.
However, with 38 and 39 being very recent tournaments leading up to this one, I had to make an exception. With 40's edit, despite the SSSSS-tier results, I just could not justify putting it above A-tier because it didn't have the complete package like tournaments such as 12 or 24 did for me. S-tier tournaments aren't allowed to have a big elephant in the room like 40 did with its odd digests and unnecessarily long Stage 1. That said, 40's edit didn't do anything egregious on its own instead inheriting the majority of 38-39's issues, and the sheer fact that a tournament with such historical and incredible outcomes is in the same tier as 37 (which is still a solid tournament, but had nowhere near the impact of 40) because of said editing style meant that I had to bump down 38 and 39 as neither had anything close to the excitement that 40 did results-wise yet still had similarly frustrating edits. 38 in particular was the worst for me purely because the 3-hour Stage 1, aggressive joke competitor focus, and undeserved Dragon Glider attempts came completely out of nowhere. Now it was at least somewhat expected.
Yeah, I know putting 38 that low is going to be controversial for many (39 I know is more unanimously meh) but I really never cared for the tournament when it aired and it certainly hasn't aged well for me either.
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Jan 1, 2023 16:23:30 GMT -5
I've now added 40 to my list as an A, while I bumped both 38 and 39 down to D-tier. I've never been someone who revamps their entire tier lists after a tournament airs, because it doesn't tend to affect my perspective of a tournament I've had 10+ years to reflect on and weigh up the pros and cons like a lot of the earlier tournaments. However, with 38 and 39 being very recent tournaments leading up to this one, I had to make an exception. With 40's edit, despite the SSSSS-tier results, I just could not justify putting it above A-tier because it didn't have the complete package like tournaments such as 12 or 24 did for me. S-tier tournaments aren't allowed to have a big elephant in the room like 40 did with its odd digests and unnecessarily long Stage 1. That said, 40's edit didn't do anything egregious on its own instead inheriting the majority of 38-39's issues, and the sheer fact that a tournament with such historical and incredible outcomes is in the same tier as 37 (which is still a solid tournament, but had nowhere near the impact of 40) because of said editing style meant that I had to bump down 38 and 39 as neither had anything close to the excitement that 40 did results-wise yet still had similarly frustrating edits. 38 in particular was the worst for me purely because the 3-hour Stage 1, aggressive joke competitor focus, and undeserved Dragon Glider attempts came completely out of nowhere. Now it was at least somewhat expected. Yeah, I know putting 38 that low is going to be controversial for many (39 I know is more unanimously meh) but I really never cared for the tournament when it aired and it certainly hasn't aged well for me either. Mine has only had a couple changes, I moved 13 up to B since I felt I was a little harsh on it due to the awesome pairing of 11/12, it's still an okay tournament in my opinion. 31 I moved up to an A partially because I wanted to balance the B Tier out a little but mostly because I do appreciate a lot about it despite some of it's flaws. 38 and 39 definitely have their flaws but I enjoyed them well enough to the point I'm okay with them staying where they are. S: 5, 11, 12, 17, 23, 24, 25, 27, 36 A: 3, 4, 7, 8, 14, 15, 16, 22, 31, 37, 40 B: 1, 2, 6, 9, 13, 18, 19, 21, 30, 34, 35, 38, 39 C: 10, 20, 29 D: 26, 28, 32, 33 |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 1, 2023 16:49:15 GMT -5
Mine has only had a couple changes, I moved 13 up to B since I felt I was a little harsh on it due to the awesome pairing of 11/12, it's still an okay tournament in my opinion. 31 I moved up to an A partially because I wanted to balance the B Tier out a little but mostly because I do appreciate a lot about it despite some of it's flaws. 38 and 39 definitely have their flaws but I enjoyed them well enough to the point I'm okay with them staying where they are. S: 5, 11, 12, 17, 23, 24, 25, 27, 36 A: 3, 4, 7, 8, 14, 15, 16, 22, 31, 37, 40 B: 1, 2, 6, 9, 13, 18, 19, 21, 30, 34, 35, 38, 39 C: 10, 20, 29 D: 26, 28, 32, 33 Fair enough. I admire your much more positive outlook on the tournaments than mine, your A tier is my B tier, and so on. You also don't have an F-tier, which again I respect, I just had to include one as I couldn't make a tier list post without crapping on 26 and 28, I just couldn't  31 is in A for me as well, I can forgive the Kanzen being spoiled as it wasn't particularly obvious who it was until Yusuke was the only Finalist, and even then his fluff piece showing how long he'd trained for was very heartwarming. I definitely felt a lot more emotion towards his first win than his second, which honestly just didn't do it for me whatsoever. The editing was a bit rough, like flat out cutting clears, and the nerfed Stage 2, but it was still better on the whole than anything we've seen recently. The course changes were also incredible, 31's renewal was almost as significant as 32's despite not having a Kanzen prior. We also had a load of standout moments, like Anastase's insane breakout run, Kanno's Cliffhanger clear which was probably the greatest of all time, Yuuji and Ryo's shock wall fails, and of course Shingo and Takeda's back to back Rolling Hill fails. It was just a tournament full of substance. 13 I'm still keeping in C purely because I just felt it was a nothing tournament. Didn't do anything particularly badly but was very forgettable because of the regressive results and disappointing outcome after 12 set the bar so high. B-tier tournaments to me have some exciting moments and a few positives almost but not quite cancelled out by flaws (e.g. 21), while D-tier tournaments are terrible in most ways but have a few redeeming qualities. 13 kind of sits in the middle, I just don't have much to say about it, similar to Sasuke 2 which was just kind of 'there' between the novelty of the first tournament and the breakouts of future stars in Sasuke 3, hence I also said C-tier for 2. |
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Jan 1, 2023 17:20:41 GMT -5
Mine has only had a couple changes, I moved 13 up to B since I felt I was a little harsh on it due to the awesome pairing of 11/12, it's still an okay tournament in my opinion. 31 I moved up to an A partially because I wanted to balance the B Tier out a little but mostly because I do appreciate a lot about it despite some of it's flaws. 38 and 39 definitely have their flaws but I enjoyed them well enough to the point I'm okay with them staying where they are. S: 5, 11, 12, 17, 23, 24, 25, 27, 36 A: 3, 4, 7, 8, 14, 15, 16, 22, 31, 37, 40 B: 1, 2, 6, 9, 13, 18, 19, 21, 30, 34, 35, 38, 39 C: 10, 20, 29 D: 26, 28, 32, 33 Fair enough. I admire your much more positive outlook on the tournaments than mine, your A tier is my B tier, and so on. You also don't have an F-tier, which again I respect, I just had to include one as I couldn't make a tier list post without crapping on 26 and 28, I just couldn't 31 is in A for me as well, I can forgive the Kanzen being spoiled as it wasn't particularly obvious who it was until Yusuke was the only Finalist, and even then his fluff piece showing how long he'd trained for was very heartwarming. I definitely felt a lot more emotion towards his first win than his second, which honestly just didn't do it for me whatsoever. The editing was a bit rough, like flat out cutting clears, and the nerfed Stage 2, but it was still better on the whole than anything we've seen recently. The course changes were also incredible, 31's renewal was almost as significant as 32's despite not having a Kanzen prior. We also had a load of standout moments, like Anastase's insane breakout run, Kanno's Cliffhanger clear which was probably the greatest of all time, Yuuji and Ryo's shock wall fails, and of course Shingo and Takeda's back to back Rolling Hill fails. It was just a tournament full of substance. 13 I'm still keeping in C purely because I just felt it was a nothing tournament. Didn't do anything particularly badly but was very forgettable because of the regressive results and disappointing outcome after 12 set the bar so high. B-tier tournaments to me have some exciting moments and a few positives almost but not quite cancelled out by flaws (e.g. 21), while D-tier tournaments are terrible in most ways but have a few redeeming qualities. 13 kind of sits in the middle, I just don't have much to say about it, similar to Sasuke 2 which was just kind of 'there' between the novelty of the first tournament and the breakouts of future stars in Sasuke 3, hence I also said C-tier for 2. Thanks a bunch, I know sometimes I could probably suit to be harsher but I just can't help but see the good in even the worst of them. It's worth noting that I'm actually a bit sad about having 10 in C, because I definitely think it's better than 20 or 29. Stage One is actually pretty good with plenty of shocks and all 5 of the clears being pretty nailbiting. The reason it hits C is because between Stage Two and Yamada's Stage Three run there's not very much I found particularly interesting in it. It's better than 20 and 29, and definitely one I feel a little bad missing out on B. |
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 1, 2023 18:18:05 GMT -5
It's worth noting that I'm actually a bit sad about having 10 in C, because I definitely think it's better than 20 or 29. Stage One is actually pretty good with plenty of shocks and all 5 of the clears being pretty nailbiting. The reason it hits C is because between Stage Two and Yamada's Stage Three run there's not very much I found particularly interesting in it. It's better than 20 and 29, and definitely one I feel a little bad missing out on B. Yeah to be honest me putting 10 in A seems to be the hot take given everyone else's rankings. I always figured the reason a lot of people hated it was because of All-Star bias, with only Yamada, who's not exactly the most popular of the group, clearing. I'm also confident that's why people hated on 22, though I definitely think the latter has more going for it than 10 did. I personally thought a lot of the shoe-ins to clear Stage 1 failing early made the outcome a hell of a lot more shocking, as well as the fact that pretty much every clear was down to the wire. Because of the Tarzan Rope no one was safe even if they cleared the wall with hoards of time, which kept excitement high throughout most runs. Stage 2 kind of sucked I agree, but I did like the fact that we got a mix of old and new faces on Stage 3 and a heterogeneous set of results. I definitely preferred it to Sasuke 9, purely because the tournament ended on a dramatic and sad note unlike the former which ended on a Rumbling Dice fail. |
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Post by salt on Jan 4, 2023 22:05:26 GMT -5
S: Awesome
3, 5, 8, 17, 24, 31, 40
A: Great
1, 4, 7, 9, 12, 15, 18, 19, 23, 25, 36
B: Good
6, 10, 11, 14, 22, 30, 35
C: Okay
2, 13, 16, 21, 27, 37, 38
D: Mediocre
20, 26, 32, 34
F: Why?
28, 29, 33, 39
Notes:
Yeah, I gotta put 40 in S even with the editing. Watching this live was one of the best experiences I've had with this show. The breakouts, the comebacks, the new final stage showcase... I wish I could watch this tournament for the first time again. Hell, if I was any good at video editing, I would want to take the broadcast and Paravi versions of this tournament and make a much better cut version. Feels like the pieces are there for a tournament as good as 8 or 17.
5 is S because it's basically as good a renewal as I could hope for. Stage 1 was where changes were really needed, so they replaced all the lame obstacles with iconic ones such as the Jump Hang and Warped Wall that brought the clear rate down from 37 to 3. I don't think as much was needed for stages 2 and 3, since they already had pretty low clear rates anyways in 4, but it still came with some welcome changes like the Body Prop.
I'm a bit harsher to 27 and 37 than most, mainly due to not being a fan of when good results or especially Kanzens happen due to obvious nerfs. Stagnant courses I'm a bit more okay with, but when you know that the competitors would've been toast if they used the last tournament's course, then I think the results just feel cheap. I get that it was kinda necessary in 27 due to the show possibly ending, but there still feels like so much missed potential with the stage 3 from 25 and 26. 35 I'm more forgiving of, because not only was the stage 3 UCCH + VLK combo impossible, but they made up for it by buffing stage 1.
I'd love to put 32 and 34 down there with 33, but I guess I can just chalk it up to Inui not knowing how OP the UCCH + VLK combo could be. No excuse for adding the Pipe Slider into the combo, though.
I'm surprised 39 isn't considered one of the worst of all time by pretty much everyone. What a piss-poor renewal, only adding the other Warped Wall and actually nerfing stage 2, with only the Swing Edge really being notable. For all the s*** people give to 18 nowadays, you could tell they really wanted to completely revamp the course into something that would knock out a lot more people. And all the shock fails due to rain just felt cheap. And as usual with Inui, the editing wasn't very good. Only thing I really liked about that tournament was the Swing Edge.
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xelA197
Shane Kosugi
Probably the only Italian superfan
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Post by xelA197 on Aug 9, 2023 17:57:11 GMT -5
I've ranked the tournaments from best to worst in my opinion
S=GOAT
A=Great
B=Good
C=Okay
D=Mediocre
E=Terrible
F=Embarassing
S 8,31,40,12,36
A 17,35,9,7,23,15,4,5,24
B 16,11,14,6,38,3,27,1,21
C 13,20,25,30,2,10,37,18
D 34,19,22
E 39,32,33
F 28,26,29
Ready for criticism!
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Aug 15, 2023 4:30:00 GMT -5
Now it's my turn:
S: 8, 17, 27, 30, 40
A: 4, 7, 12, 19, 23, 25, 34, 39
B: 1, 5, 6, 11, 16, 24, 33, 35, 36
C: 2, 10, 18, 20, 22, 26, 31
D: 3, 9, 13, 14, 15, 21, 32, 38
Really Bad: 28, 29, 37
My fav goes to 17!!!!
(Because I'm a big fan of All Stars)
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loboticialtree
Paul Hamm
I like SASUKE, you like SASUKE, now were homies.
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Post by loboticialtree on Aug 15, 2023 9:49:58 GMT -5
W.I.P. List (gonna use someone's list as a reference):
SIUUUUUUU: 5, 8, 12, 17
A: 3, 4, 7, 11, 18
B: 6, 13, 14, 15, 16, 19
Could Be Better: 1, 9
D: 2, 10, 20
Why Does This Exist?:
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