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Post by dakohosu on Nov 17, 2022 6:39:04 GMT -5
So according to Sasukepedia only 2 competitors, Wataru Nishimura and Shunpei Yaegashi were selected to compete. It’s quite baffling how even out of the last 10 competitors, 8 still failed some fairly easy Stage 1 obstacles yet they snubbed a load of guys who’ve cleared the exact same obstacles in competition like Ugajin, but what can you do lol.
Iwasaki has been confirmed to be competing in 40 too.
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Post by brz0ny on Nov 17, 2022 7:45:04 GMT -5
So according to Sasukepedia only 2 competitors, Wataru Nishimura and Shunpei Yaegashi were selected to compete. It’s quite baffling how even out of the last 10 competitors, 8 still failed some fairly easy Stage 1 obstacles yet they snubbed a load of guys who’ve cleared the exact same obstacles in competition like Ugajin, but what can you do lol. Iwasaki has been confirmed to be competing in 40 too. Well if thats the case, I dont see a problem in only 3 spots assigned, if in the end only 2 are actually better than an average celebrity. Also, put spoilers for the post in case some people didnt watch yet.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 17, 2022 8:55:49 GMT -5
So according to Sasukepedia only 2 competitors, Wataru Nishimura and Shunpei Yaegashi were selected to compete. It’s quite baffling how even out of the last 10 competitors, 8 still failed some fairly easy Stage 1 obstacles yet they snubbed a load of guys who’ve cleared the exact same obstacles in competition like Ugajin, but what can you do lol. Iwasaki has been confirmed to be competing in 40 too. Well if thats the case, I dont see a problem in only 3 spots assigned, if in the end only 2 are actually better than an average celebrity. Also, put spoilers for the post in case some people didnt watch yet. My point was more that clearly their selection criteria wasn’t very good if the ‘best 10’ out of 500 still mostly failed the easiest Stage 1 obstacles, while several competitors who had made Stage 2 or even 3 in competition got eliminated. I wouldn’t be surprised if both the trial qualifiers just failed the Dragon Glider.
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Post by katoshiho on Nov 17, 2022 11:21:38 GMT -5
Let me count it: Now we had sure that those people is going to compete: Nishimura Wataru (from trial) Yaegashi Shunpei (from trial) Sato Kaede Iwazaki Shinya (regular's volunteer.ps thank god they selected him this year) (how to spell it in English) 放生隆晟(17 years old SASUKE maniac but almost give up by difficult disease. Regular volunteer) Urushihara Yuji Hioki Masashi
Probably will come: Morimoto Yusuke Tada Tatsuya Yamamoto Shingo Kawaguchi Tomohiro Torisawa Katsuhide KAREN Honma Takashi Saikawa Koji Goto Yusuke Matsuda Daisuke Sugeta Rinne Ajima Hideki Kajihara Hayate Yamamoto Yoshiyuki 1~2 spots for Black Tiger 4 spots for Akko corp Isa Yoshinori Nagasaki Shunsuke Kanno Hitoshi Araki Naoyuki Muto Tomohiro Suzuki Yusuke Oshima Ayano Tsukada Ryoichi Iwamoto Hikaru Yamamoto Keitaro Matachi Ryo Sato Jun Yamada Katsumi And, Nagano Makoto.
Wish to come in this competition (not sure for now): Higashimura Mei Hashimoto Koji Kanno Kazuki Sakuma Kota Ugajin Shogo Yamamoto Kosuke Washimi Yuji Asa Kazuma Kyan Yutaka Nagano Kaiou Ishikawa Sho Izumi Hikari Nasukawa Tenshin Rampage 3 people Wasabi Darvish Kenji
The 3 almost impossible but if they compete will be the best competition: Shiratori Bunpei Kane Kosugi Akiyama Kazuhiko
Unfortunately unable to compete: Mori Wataru
And now we have about 41 spots can be 100% sure, and 59 spots that if count all people that on wish list.
Then we still have about 10 spots for new celebrities (audition), two for new-coming YouTuber, and about 15 more normal auditions and other celebrities and Athlete.
How many people can I get it right……
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Post by cb on Nov 17, 2022 11:58:29 GMT -5
Wish to come in this competition (not sure for now): Higashimura Mei Hashimoto Koji Kanno Kazuki Sakuma Kota Ugajin Shogo Yamamoto Kosuke Washimi Yuji Asa Kazuma Kyan Yutaka Nagano Kaiou Ishikawa Sho Izumi Hikari Nasukawa Tenshin Rampage 3 people Wasabi Darvish Kenji Kanno Kazuki, Kota Sakuma, Shogo Ugajin, Kosuke Yamaguchi, Yuji Washimi and Sho Ishikawa are not competing as they have failed the trials.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 17, 2022 12:18:25 GMT -5
The fact that they rejected Sho Ishikawa as well as several other veterans who’ve done decently well, yet accepted 10 people, 8 of whom failed simple Stage 1 obstacles, tells me all I need to know lol, and supports my previous point.
Not suggesting the trials should’ve been some Cliffhanger Vertical Limit screw fest, but come on is a tire run or push-up contest really indicative of a competitor’s ability to perform well on Sasuke, specifically Stage 1? Imo they should’ve done Stage 1 replicas right from the start as that would immediately eliminate those likely to fail on the course and hence only those who would actually have a fighting chance at clearing would’ve made it through to the later rounds. Even throw a Dragon Glider in there for good measure. Some upper body stuff would also be a good indicator of someone’s ability to perform on the later stages, though nothing OP like today’s Stage 3. Maybe a Salmon Ladder just to make sure that said competitors aren’t Dai Igarashis who can reliably get through an admittedly easy Stage 1 but then just die on Stage 2.
For reference I’m not sh1tting on these trials specifically, all of the past trials bar Sasuke 13 and arguably 11 too have always had these dumb events which has frequently resulted in the best competitors (eg Yuuji and Yusuke) while most of those who do get on just fail Stage 1. General athleticism is obviously important but the course is so specific these days that people who actually practice specific skills and/or on replicas should be given an advantage. I get giving people a chance and all but if you’re going to have trials at least allow it to be an opportunity for rising stars to show their potential rather than just letting on a couple of fodder competitors.
I’m just glad Iwasaki got shortlisted to compete, because let’s be honest he probably also would’ve ended up getting eliminated in the trials just by virtue of how few spaces there were (3 out of 500).
Anyway I hope these two trial qualifiers prove me wrong but I’m not holding my breath.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Nov 17, 2022 13:31:43 GMT -5
According to Sasukepedia Hashimoto Kouji retired after 29 because after about Sasuke 27 he began suffering from scoliosis. Can anybody confirm this? It was allegedly mentioned in the official channel YouTube video he was in. It says he took the time off to recover.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 17, 2022 15:52:59 GMT -5
According to Sasukepedia Hashimoto Kouji retired after 29 because after about Sasuke 27 he began suffering from scoliosis. Can anybody confirm this? It was allegedly mentioned in the official channel YouTube video he was in. It says he took the time off to recover. As much as I've said that Sasukepedia isn't to be trusted about a lot of things this doesn't seem like something that someone would just make up or mistake for something else. I can definitely see this having occurred because he had a fantastic career throughout, and then just vanished. Most competitors retire after a few bad runs but he almost made Stage 3 in his last tournament. No explanation given, Sasukepedia previously said it was due to 'not wanting the pressure of being a Shin-Sedai' but he got thrown out of that group after 28 anyway (which was bs but still) so that didn't make sense. Retiring suddenly due to an actual health-related reason definitely seems like a more believable outcome.
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Post by lostinube on Nov 17, 2022 17:59:46 GMT -5
It's clearly labeled on the screen that Koji says he had scoliosis.
Most of the returning SASUKE guys who tried out via the Qualifier were 40ish and while they were in good shape they unfortunately ran into having to compete directly with their younger counterparts via the Beach Flags. They lost fair and square even if the way things were set up didn't favor them. If not, they would have had to go head to head with each other, which seems crueler.
One thing about the Fishbone. By not fully setting it up and being on the ground rather than over a pit of water changes it psychologically. You aren't nearly as careful when you know you aren't falling from a short height into the water.
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Post by anime boy on Nov 26, 2022 18:18:52 GMT -5
I think the trials should've been more tailored towards reality TV for entertainment reasons and for the brand. Sasuke doesn't need more generic competitors who's only trait is that they practice ninja and are strong. They should be looking for the next ICON of the show, someone who can carry the brand, not just something decent at doing models of obstacles. I feel like personalities and charisma should have been took into account. Or take some celebrities' interested in Ninja Warrior and document their training journeys. Something to get us invested in the competitors but nothing overkill like American Ninja Warrior.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 27, 2022 15:06:00 GMT -5
I think the trials should've been more tailored towards reality TV for entertainment reasons and for the brand. Sasuke doesn't need more generic competitors who's only trait is that they practice ninja and are strong. They should be looking for the next ICON of the show, someone who can carry the brand, not just something decent at doing models of obstacles. I feel like personalities and charisma should have been took into account. Or take some celebrities' interested in Ninja Warrior and document their training journeys. Something to get us invested in the competitors but nothing overkill like American Ninja Warrior. I mean imo the trials achieved neither strong TV entertainment nor did it facilitate the right selection of the most dedicated/likely to breakout competitors. It was just an incredibly bland and underwhelming watch yet also frustrating because of the outcome. Things like tire runs and pushup contests are both boring to watch as they're incredibly generic, and they're not really a good indicator of how adept someone will be at Sasuke. General fitness, maybe, but the correlation between general fitness and success on Sasuke is very rocky beyond the fact that you have to have a baseline level of stamina and speed etc. They should've had more obstacle replicas from the get-go, like the Salmon Ladder, a mini-Cliffhanger, etc. which would've been both more fun to watch and a better indicator of actual competitor competence r/e the course, both due to the increased difficulty and specificity of the challenge. The fact that the 8 out of the 10 'top 2%' competitors failed an incredibly nerfed Stage 1 (no Dragon Glider basically eliminates 70% of the difficulty) and honestly did worse than most joke competitors would, while veterans and other competitors who have decimated entire replicas in practice (like Sho Ishikawa) got eliminated early, just goes to show how poor the selection process was.
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Post by SasukeBanzukeNo1 (Moon12) on Dec 5, 2022 8:34:48 GMT -5
So according to Sasukepedia only 2 competitors, Wataru Nishimura and Shunpei Yaegashi were selected to compete. It’s quite baffling how even out of the last 10 competitors, 8 still failed some fairly easy Stage 1 obstacles yet they snubbed a load of guys who’ve cleared the exact same obstacles in competition like Ugajin, but what can you do lol. Iwasaki has been confirmed to be competing in 40 too. Yea, this is mainly because the final 10 competitors remaining did have the athletic capacity to do prolonged push-up contests, long-distance races, tire-pushing races, and beach flag races--that's how they got here to begin with. With that being said, almost none of it had anything to do with SASUKE or SASUKE obstacles (although you could say the tire push is the equivalent for the Tackle, but that's basically it). It felt like some of these guys weren't as comfortable trying to tackle each stage 1 obstacle in their path, and it basically all came down to the amount of training they had prior to doing the trials. I'm not saying they didn't train at all for the show--I mean, why else would they be here, right? But still, the fact that the trials eliminated more potential rising-stars in stages where SASUKE training expertise isn't required, it kinda seems like an unfair disadvantage for them in contrast to those who don't train as much and are stronger in fields related to each stage. And yes, I know it's important that we make sure that those who DO qualify are in good shape, and all the stages revealed that. However, we ended up having a good amount of Fish Bone fails (two of them being chokes due to coursing out at the end, but still), two chokes on the Rolling Hill, and two people failing the Soritatsu Kabe on all 5 attempts (minus a Tackle). In fact, the two people that did clear did it on their first attempt easily. I'm not trying to diminish any of their performances--I think they all did fantastic in the trials and deserve credit for making it this far. But in all fairness, I wasn't really expecting these results. Anyways, congrats to the two that did qualify and I hope they do well in the tournament!
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 5, 2022 9:20:13 GMT -5
So according to Sasukepedia only 2 competitors, Wataru Nishimura and Shunpei Yaegashi were selected to compete. It’s quite baffling how even out of the last 10 competitors, 8 still failed some fairly easy Stage 1 obstacles yet they snubbed a load of guys who’ve cleared the exact same obstacles in competition like Ugajin, but what can you do lol. Iwasaki has been confirmed to be competing in 40 too. Yea, this is mainly because the final 10 competitors remaining did have the athletic capacity to do prolonged push-up contests, long-distance races, tire-pushing races, and beach flag races--that's how they got here to begin with. With that being said, almost none of it had anything to do with SASUKE or SASUKE obstacles (although you could say the tire push is the equivalent for the Tackle, but that's basically it). It felt like some of these guys weren't as comfortable trying to tackle each stage 1 obstacle in their path, and it basically all came down to the amount of training they had prior to doing the trials. I'm not saying they didn't train at all for the show--I mean, why else would they be here, right? But still, the fact that the trials eliminated more potential rising-stars in stages where SASUKE training expertise isn't required, it kinda seems like an unfair disadvantage for them in contrast to those who don't train as much and are stronger in fields related to each stage. And yes, I know it's important that we make sure that those who DO qualify are in good shape, and all the stages revealed that. However, we ended up having a good amount of Fish Bone fails (two of them being chokes due to coursing out at the end, but still), two chokes on the Rolling Hill, and two people failing the Soritatsu Kabe on all 5 attempts (minus a Tackle). In fact, the two people that did clear did it on their first attempt easily. I'm not trying to diminish any of their performances--I think they all did fantastic in the trials and deserve credit for making it this far. But in all fairness, I wasn't really expecting these results. Anyways, congrats to the two that did qualify and I hope they do well in the tournament! Indeed I said the same thing in my last comment (one above yours). The trials as expected were baffling in all the wrong ways.
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Post by SasukeBanzukeNo1 (Moon12) on Dec 5, 2022 9:55:27 GMT -5
Yea, this is mainly because the final 10 competitors remaining did have the athletic capacity to do prolonged push-up contests, long-distance races, tire-pushing races, and beach flag races--that's how they got here to begin with. With that being said, almost none of it had anything to do with SASUKE or SASUKE obstacles (although you could say the tire push is the equivalent for the Tackle, but that's basically it). It felt like some of these guys weren't as comfortable trying to tackle each stage 1 obstacle in their path, and it basically all came down to the amount of training they had prior to doing the trials. I'm not saying they didn't train at all for the show--I mean, why else would they be here, right? But still, the fact that the trials eliminated more potential rising-stars in stages where SASUKE training expertise isn't required, it kinda seems like an unfair disadvantage for them in contrast to those who don't train as much and are stronger in fields related to each stage. And yes, I know it's important that we make sure that those who DO qualify are in good shape, and all the stages revealed that. However, we ended up having a good amount of Fish Bone fails (two of them being chokes due to coursing out at the end, but still), two chokes on the Rolling Hill, and two people failing the Soritatsu Kabe on all 5 attempts (minus a Tackle). In fact, the two people that did clear did it on their first attempt easily. I'm not trying to diminish any of their performances--I think they all did fantastic in the trials and deserve credit for making it this far. But in all fairness, I wasn't really expecting these results. Anyways, congrats to the two that did qualify and I hope they do well in the tournament! Indeed I said the same thing in my last comment (one above yours). The trials as expected were baffling in all the wrong ways. Yea, although I did enjoy many aspects of it, like all the racing stages (marathon, tire push, & beach flags), and I still did enjoy the First Stage trial course event. But the push-up stage wasn't really doing it for me. It was pretty boring compared to the other ones imo. Plus, having to keep cutting back to the "reaction" room every now and then was unnecessary and a bit irritating at times. Basically SASUKE 28 all over again lol. They even brought back the box reactions during the stages. Remember "Box Girl" in 28? lmao
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Post by dakohosu on Dec 5, 2022 11:04:38 GMT -5
Indeed I said the same thing in my last comment (one above yours). The trials as expected were baffling in all the wrong ways. Yea, although I did enjoy many aspects of it, like all the racing stages (marathon, tire push, & beach flags), and I still did enjoy the First Stage trial course event. But the push-up stage wasn't really doing it for me. It was pretty boring compared to the other ones imo. Plus, having to keep cutting back to the "reaction" room every now and then was unnecessary and a bit irritating at times. Basically SASUKE 28 all over again lol. They even brought back the box reactions during the stages. Remember "Box Girl" in 28? lmao Yeah the push-up trial semi defeated the point of having a unique ‘trials’ event given that push-ups is what they do for the standard audition process anyway. Meh, I kind of found the events a bit boring, they were pretty bog standard. There’s only so much excitement you can get from seeing people running lol. I would’ve definitely preferred to have mini obstacle courses like they did in the older trials; granted even some of these weren’t necessarily reflective of ability to do well in Sasuke (eg 21) but they were much more entertaining to watch imo. Or even something like a monkey bar event like they did in 11 would’ve been relatively left field these days. The fact that the only aspect of the trials that resembled anything course related was for the final 10 and even that was a heavily nerfed version of Stage 1 was a bit embarrassing, and the lack of course elements in earlier rounds obviously negatively affected the selection process massively as I said before. Yep that was my exact thought with the reactions hahahaha. I do not miss Sasuke 28’s shall we just say ‘quirks’….. Overall I didn’t hate the trials but any potential excitement from them was kind of masked by frustration over how disappointing a lot of the events were relative to the hype Inui created over them and the fact that the final 10 were at best mediocre.
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Post by sasukewarrior333 on Jan 5, 2023 14:09:17 GMT -5
Ah, I think we all forgot to come back to this.
So, Shunpei Yaegeshi actually did really well. He timed out as he was running up the second Warped Wall, but was able to get atop it. If the time limit was 105 seconds, he would've cleared. He's definitely put in a good rookie effort. Sadly Wataru Nishimura failed the Rolling Hill ascent due to rushing it. Overall, it's disappointing neither of them cleared, but I do have hope for them. I hope they both get invited back, especially Shunpsei with how close he was.
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Post by dakohosu on Jan 5, 2023 14:48:11 GMT -5
Ah, I think we all forgot to come back to this. So, Shunpei Yaegeshi actually did really well. He timed out as he was running up the second Warped Wall, but was able to get atop it. If the time limit was 105 seconds, he would've cleared. He's definitely put in a good rookie effort. Sadly Wataru Nishimura failed the Rolling Hill ascent due to rushing it. Overall, it's disappointing neither of them cleared, but I do have hope for them. I hope they both get invited back, especially Shunpsei with how close he was. Honestly can't say I'm surprised; the merits on which they were granted entry to compete weren't really reflective of how well they were likely to do. I mean we've already discussed how 40's trials were pretty unrelated to skills and techniques required by the course. I was very surprised at how badly Nishimura did, given that he cleared the Rolling Hill in the qualifiers and he's a parkour guy. Personally I'd rather Iwasaki or Ryusei Hojo get invited back as they're objectively much more capable as far as doing well on the course is concerned, and did a lot better in 40 regardless. Both actually have the capability to get incredibly far, we've seen Iwasaki's insane feats while Hojo's incredibly adept for a 17 year old who has 20+ years of his career ahead of him. I definitely believe in qualifiers being much more meritocratic relative to actual Sasuke specific training, and to say that both of these guys have put in the work would be an understatement. Iwasaki's been training for 15 years. Yaegashi imo deserves another shot though, purely because he did come pretty close to clearing Stage 1. That said, with Inui's recent culling and rejecting of competitors, it seems as though anything short of a Stage 3 or at least a deep Stage 2 run from a non-celebrity means no guarantee the competitor will be invited back.
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