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Post by m4tt3r0x on Sept 2, 2022 9:21:32 GMT -5
Planet Bridge has already been replaced by Swing Edge ^^ Also good news, Takeda said he'll be on the sidelines still if I'm not mistaken
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Post by dakohosu on Sept 2, 2022 9:33:57 GMT -5
I also think it’s been established through the Black Tiger training videos that only the top 2 are going to be allowed to compete, because they always showcased the best two performances for each trial. I don’t know why they reduced Yamada’s allocation from 3 to 2 after Sasuke 34 (I think at one point he got 4 like in Sasuke 29?).
I’m not sure why Yamada’s allocation has been decreasing over time especially as the Black Tigers have been getting better over time (I mean they started out as a complete joke and now are making it deep into Stage 3) , most likely reason is to allow for more celebrities, which sucks absolute butt but what can you do/expect these days.
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Post by dt on Sept 2, 2022 10:17:05 GMT -5
Planet Bridge has already been replaced by Swing Edge ^^ Also good news, Takeda said he'll be on the sidelines still if I'm not mistaken Loool, what a brain fart, my bad😂 I knew Swing Edge was in but for some reason I pictured the Planet Bridge still being present before it. And oh sweet!! I hadn’t heard that, it’ll be good to see him there
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Post by dragstar on Sept 4, 2022 5:04:14 GMT -5
A very simple one would be a new woman clearing the first stage.
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Post by dakohosu on Sept 4, 2022 14:00:38 GMT -5
A very simple one would be a new woman clearing the first stage. I think the issue is this negative feedback loop. Ayano's pretty much the only non-celebrity/joke competitor female that Inui invites at this point and so there are basically no spaces for new genuine female competitors, which discourages a lot of them from training/trying for Sasuke as there's next to no chance they'll get selected anyway, which keeps increasing the reliance on Ayano who so far has consistently underdelivered. I also think the existence of Kunoichi has had a factor in discouraging female competitors, because it could easily be construed as 'Sasuke is too hard for you so here's this way easier version', kind of supported by the fact that champions like Miyake and Komiya failed pretty early on Stage 1 (though that was Shin-Sasuke which had by far the hardest variant). That's kinda why the females on ANW kick a**, because there is no easier version for women, so they have to step up their game to do well. So basically, unless Ayano clears in 40 it won't happen, purely because all of the other females Inui invites are either joke competitors or athletes who are unqualified in terms of skills commanded by Stage 1. I don't know why they don't invite someone like Izumi Hikari as she did better than Ayano on Kunoichi (I think?) and is also much better aligned skills-wise to clear Stage 1 being a parkour athlete, which if Jun's performances are anything to go by goes a long way on Stage 1. Ayano being a speed climber doesn't give her much advantage in terms of horizontal traversal. As to whether Ayano herself will clear in 40 it's hard to tell. She definitely has the ability to clear at some point in her career as she's not even 30 but is a bit inconsistent in terms of where she fails, that said three of her five fails have been on the Warped Wall so where she fails definitely isn't as random as Matsuda or Shingo who I've just lost faith in at this point. I'd be equally surprised if she cleared Stage 1 as if she failed the Dragon Glider again.
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Post by dragstar on Sept 4, 2022 16:17:40 GMT -5
A very simple one would be a new woman clearing the first stage. I think the issue is this negative feedback loop. Ayano's pretty much the only non-celebrity/joke competitor female that Inui invites at this point and so there are basically no spaces for new genuine female competitors, which discourages a lot of them from training/trying for Sasuke as there's next to no chance they'll get selected anyway, which keeps increasing the reliance on Ayano who so far has consistently underdelivered. I also think the existence of Kunoichi has had a factor in discouraging female competitors, because it could easily be construed as 'Sasuke is too hard for you so here's this way easier version', kind of supported by the fact that champions like Miyake and Komiya failed pretty early on Stage 1 (though that was Shin-Sasuke which had by far the hardest variant). That's kinda why the females on ANW kick a**, because there is no easier version for women, so they have to step up their game to do well. So basically, unless Ayano clears in 40 it won't happen, purely because all of the other females Inui invites are either joke competitors or athletes who are unqualified in terms of skills commanded by Stage 1. I don't know why they don't invite someone like Izumi Hikari as she did better than Ayano on Kunoichi (I think?) and is also much better aligned skills-wise to clear Stage 1 being a parkour athlete, which if Jun's performances are anything to go by goes a long way on Stage 1. Ayano being a speed climber doesn't give her much advantage in terms of horizontal traversal. As to whether Ayano herself will clear in 40 it's hard to tell. She definitely has the ability to clear at some point in her career as she's not even 30 but is a bit inconsistent in terms of where she fails, that said three of her five fails have been on the Warped Wall so where she fails definitely isn't as random as Matsuda or Shingo who I've just lost faith in at this point. I'd be equally surprised if she cleared Stage 1 as if she failed the Dragon Glider again. Yeah, I know my wishes are pretty out there. I just wanted to see a female idol that can perform as good as those younger Johnny's members.
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Post by brz0ny on Sept 4, 2022 19:17:27 GMT -5
A very simple one would be a new woman clearing the first stage. I think the issue is this negative feedback loop. Ayano's pretty much the only non-celebrity/joke competitor female that Inui invites at this point and so there are basically no spaces for new genuine female competitors, which discourages a lot of them from training/trying for Sasuke as there's next to no chance they'll get selected anyway, which keeps increasing the reliance on Ayano who so far has consistently underdelivered. I also think the existence of Kunoichi has had a factor in discouraging female competitors, because it could easily be construed as 'Sasuke is too hard for you so here's this way easier version', kind of supported by the fact that champions like Miyake and Komiya failed pretty early on Stage 1 (though that was Shin-Sasuke which had by far the hardest variant). That's kinda why the females on ANW kick a**, because there is no easier version for women, so they have to step up their game to do well. So basically, unless Ayano clears in 40 it won't happen, purely because all of the other females Inui invites are either joke competitors or athletes who are unqualified in terms of skills commanded by Stage 1. I don't know why they don't invite someone like Izumi Hikari as she did better than Ayano on Kunoichi (I think?) and is also much better aligned skills-wise to clear Stage 1 being a parkour athlete, which if Jun's performances are anything to go by goes a long way on Stage 1. Ayano being a speed climber doesn't give her much advantage in terms of horizontal traversal. As to whether Ayano herself will clear in 40 it's hard to tell. She definitely has the ability to clear at some point in her career as she's not even 30 but is a bit inconsistent in terms of where she fails, that said three of her five fails have been on the Warped Wall so where she fails definitely isn't as random as Matsuda or Shingo who I've just lost faith in at this point. I'd be equally surprised if she cleared Stage 1 as if she failed the Dragon Glider again. It seems like there is a possibility Hikari Izumi will be invited. I think if she really does then she really does have potential of clearing, and she does better in Kunoichi than Ayano.
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Post by sasukenoob on Sept 29, 2022 4:36:43 GMT -5
At least 1 new obstacle in Stage 2
Someone getting to the Final Stage so that we see what the new tower looks like, preferably someone new
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Post by dakohosu on Sept 29, 2022 12:12:35 GMT -5
At least 1 new obstacle in Stage 2 Someone getting to the Final Stage so that we see what the new tower looks like, preferably someone new First point probably won't happen if the recent trajectory is anything to go by. Pretty much every obstacle bar the Rolling Log has survived two renewals even though the clear rate of most of said obstacles (particularly the Nobori/Kudari and the Spider Walk) have had pretty abysmally high clear rates. Backstream is the oldest obstacle but given Inui's desire to make the entirety of Stage 2 underwater if he could it's 100% staying. I'd say the most we could hope for is a time limit decrease, which personally I'd be fine with as 38's Stage 2 proved that having an unfailable back half of the course is okay if the time limit is sufficiently stringent. 95 seconds would suffice, as half of 39's field cleared with less than 10 seconds left iirc. On the second point, I feel as though there is the potential for someone new to reach the Final Stage, most likely Tada, Ryo or Yoshiyuki, but Yusuke will also likely make it back there as well. The only thing stopping Yusuke will be the Swing Edge which he's obviously practiced for by this point, so unfortunately I really don't see anything preventing him from making it back there. He has always been the lone finalist in his 4 attempts though, so having him being joined by someone else would at least be a refreshing change. I just really hope the next few tournaments don't emulate the same pattern as 35-38 did, where Yusuke reaches the Final Stage in 40 and expectedly fails early due to the new rock wall obstacle, but then practices and then keeps making it back to the Final doing gradually better until he eventually wins 1-2 tournaments later.
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Oct 11, 2022 17:23:50 GMT -5
SASUKE All-Stars to appear. Just that. They don't need to compete, just appeared. Probably could be one final goodbye together to Yamamoto for some of them.
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Post by dakohosu on Oct 12, 2022 9:49:39 GMT -5
SASUKE All-Stars to appear. Just that. They don't need to compete, just appeared. Probably could be one final goodbye together to Yamamoto for some of them. I hope that’s not the case…. I mean the ‘final goodbye’ bit. I want at least Takeda and Nagano to still remain part of the community even if they don’t compete, after all they spent half their lives dedicated to Sasuke, they probably don’t want to let go entirely either. Yamada definitely will be due to his current role as a mentor and the fact he’s effectively a celebrity at this point. Akiyama I think will pop up sporadically, like how he did a fun run in 32 and also appeared during the live finals. He was also on Yuuji’s YouTube channel only a couple of years back, so clearly he still cares for the community somewhat. Bunpei is the one I have no idea about though. He’s been pretty MIA, the last time we saw him was at Nagano’s retirement ceremony in 32, and even then he was just ‘there’. Since then he’s just shut himself off from the entire community. Can’t say I’m surprised, he was always the least well characterised/defined and hence least impactful out of the All-Stars.
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Oct 13, 2022 2:44:16 GMT -5
I hope that’s not the case…. I mean the ‘final goodbye’ bit. I want at least Takeda and Nagano to still remain part of the community even if they don’t compete, after all they spent half their lives dedicated to Sasuke, they probably don’t want to let go entirely either. Yamada definitely will be due to his current role as a mentor and the fact he’s effectively a celebrity at this point. Akiyama I think will pop up sporadically, like how he did a fun run in 32 and also appeared during the live finals. He was also on Yuuji’s YouTube channel only a couple of years back, so clearly he still cares for the community somewhat. Bunpei is the one I have no idea about though. He’s been pretty MIA, the last time we saw him was at Nagano’s retirement ceremony in 32, and even then he was just ‘there’. Since then he’s just shut himself off from the entire community. Can’t say I’m surprised, he was always the least well characterised/defined and hence least impactful out of the All-Stars. Oh, believe me, I want this to happen too, but in my mind, I always expect the worst outcome, so, there's that. However, I doubt they will leave the community, Takeda and Nagano. Remember, even during Takeda's off-days from SASUKE *SASUKE 27 and SASUKE 37, that is*, he always get in touch with the competitors and the fans themselves *remember him making YouTube video calling competitors, even Shiratori?*. Nagano himself even compete back in SASUKE 38 purely due to him willing to lift the community's spirit during COVID days. You would not do that if you lost interest in the community as well. Shiratori is my concern since he tend to be overlooked and, frankly, did nothing extraordinary to TBS' standards *Akiyama and Nagano are Grand Champions, Takeda and Yamamoto are consistent competitors, and Yamada, as you mentioned, is a Celebrity*.
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Post by dakohosu on Oct 13, 2022 13:40:20 GMT -5
I hope that’s not the case…. I mean the ‘final goodbye’ bit. I want at least Takeda and Nagano to still remain part of the community even if they don’t compete, after all they spent half their lives dedicated to Sasuke, they probably don’t want to let go entirely either. Yamada definitely will be due to his current role as a mentor and the fact he’s effectively a celebrity at this point. Akiyama I think will pop up sporadically, like how he did a fun run in 32 and also appeared during the live finals. He was also on Yuuji’s YouTube channel only a couple of years back, so clearly he still cares for the community somewhat. Bunpei is the one I have no idea about though. He’s been pretty MIA, the last time we saw him was at Nagano’s retirement ceremony in 32, and even then he was just ‘there’. Since then he’s just shut himself off from the entire community. Can’t say I’m surprised, he was always the least well characterised/defined and hence least impactful out of the All-Stars. Oh, believe me, I want this to happen too, but in my mind, I always expect the worst outcome, so, there's that. However, I doubt they will leave the community, Takeda and Nagano. Remember, even during Takeda's off-days from SASUKE *SASUKE 27 and SASUKE 37, that is*, he always get in touch with the competitors and the fans themselves *remember him making YouTube video calling competitors, even Shiratori?*. Nagano himself even compete back in SASUKE 38 purely due to him willing to lift the community's spirit during COVID days. You would not do that if you lost interest in the community as well. Shiratori is my concern since he tend to be overlooked and, frankly, did nothing extraordinary to TBS' standards *Akiyama and Nagano are Grand Champions, Takeda and Yamamoto are consistent competitors, and Yamada, as you mentioned, is a Celebrity*. Sounds harsh, but I don't really think that many people care about Bunpei at this point. If any of the other members just shut themselves off for years people would start to miss them or wonder what's going on. Like when Takeda went a bit MIA because of his heart condition I remember people got genuinely concerned. But in Bunpei's case it's quite hard to get invested in someone who only competed seriously for about 4 years (compared to 20+ for half of the others) the last of which was well over a decade ago, and has regularly missed All-Star events. He was also very obviously never really that tight with the rest of the group, in the same way that Nagano and Takeda, or Takeda and Shingo were best buds, or how Yamada and Akiyama had a love-hate relationship. Bunpei was just kind of there.... He's sort of the odd one out for the reasons you mentioned, so as long as the other five are present I'm cool with that. Shiratori clearly wants nothing to do with them anymore hence his continued absence over the past years, so there's no point in forcing that. Hell, even Asaoka, the other Sasuke 12 Finalist, still has his home course and has attended a few community events. Makes me think he would've potentially been a better All-Star, especially given his better prior track record at the time and the fact that he was a teacher which adheres to the whole All-Stars having interesting careers novelty.
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Post by brz0ny on Oct 13, 2022 16:46:00 GMT -5
SASUKE All-Stars to appear. Just that. They don't need to compete, just appeared. Probably could be one final goodbye together to Yamamoto for some of them. Yeah Bunpei and Akiyama wont be there unfortunately. Shingo, Nagano and Yamada are all confirmed to be competing I think, and if we are lucky, Takeda will be on the sidelines.
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Post by therealkksworld on Oct 20, 2022 6:36:08 GMT -5
I would like to see more rookies breakout, similar to what we saw in Shin-Sasuke. I've seen people train for Sasuke and were absolute beasts in training, especially Ishikawa Sho. It's a shame most of the competitor roster is composed of people and celebrities who just fail early because I want to see new faces in Stage 2 and 3. I've seen his training too. Is Sho Ishikawa competing in SASUKE?
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Post by dakohosu on Oct 20, 2022 8:10:39 GMT -5
I would like to see more rookies breakout, similar to what we saw in Shin-Sasuke. I've seen people train for Sasuke and were absolute beasts in training, especially Ishikawa Sho. It's a shame most of the competitor roster is composed of people and celebrities who just fail early because I want to see new faces in Stage 2 and 3. I've seen his training too. Is Sho Ishikawa competing in SASUKE? I very much doubt it, purely because all of these elusive YouTube stars have seemingly been training for years, yet either never apply or never get picked to be on the show. I'm not sure which. I would imagine the latter but wouldn't be surprised if the former was the case due to the pressure of officially competing and underperforming. To a lot of people, just being physically capable of beating Stage 3 is enough (which is often why when the STQ-ers did get selected to compete they sucked for a long time). I know for a fact that aokinagano guy who's in that group (his name is Yuki Hirayama I think) has been training for like 10 years, since he was a teen, and has tested a few obstacles for Sasuke, but hasn't competed. Besides, with there seemingly be upwards of 80% of spaces filled out by either celebrities or recurring competitors, the chances of these guys actually getting selected is becoming slimmer and slimmer, which is pretty annoying. Like do we really need Rampage Exile, who all keep failing the Dragon Glider and clearly don't care that much about competing, filling up three spaces every tournament?
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Post by therealkksworld on Oct 20, 2022 10:46:56 GMT -5
1. I'd like to see more superfans come onto the show and compete. Look at how it went when Yusuke Goto broke out last year, he cleared Stage 1. Given the way they market the absolute 💩 out of celebrities though, I can't see it happening. That's really upsetting, given some of these superfans have actually been recommended by SASUKE veterans.
2. I want stricter time limits, especially on Stage 2. Kajihara cleared Stage 2 last year with 20+ seconds left. That should never happen. Like I said in another thread, the fastest clear should only be with about 10-13 seconds left. Lower the time limit to 95 seconds.
3. Continued Morimoto Sedai success is also something I'd like to see. This is basically the new Shin Sedai of the SASUKE-kun era. With Jun Sato coming back, its pretty much certain that we get 3 members on Stage 3 (Jun, Yusuke, Tada). And hopefully Araki gets some long-awaited revenge as well. Maybe Shogo Ugajin will come back, who knows.
4. I want good weather for once. Most results in 37 were due to the rain. 38 had rain in Stage 3 and the Final Stage but it didn't matter because Yusuke is a god. And 39 had rain that basically ruined the second half of Stage 1. Luckily, the forecast is calling for high temps in the low 70s and lows in the 50s with no rain in sight, so this wish will probably come true.
5. Finally, I want more course changes. SASUKE 39 was a lackluster renewal. I'd like to see the Quad Steps, Silk Slider, Backstream, and Flying Bar all be replaced. Additionally, I'd like to see the Fish Bone, Rolling Log, Salmon Ladder, and Pipe Slider all modified. But it won't happen, so consider this impossible.
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Post by dakohosu on Oct 20, 2022 16:36:29 GMT -5
1. I'd like to see more superfans come onto the show and compete. Look at how it went when Yusuke Goto broke out last year, he cleared Stage 1. Given the way they market the absolute 💩 out of celebrities though, I can't see it happening. That's really upsetting, given some of these superfans have actually been recommended by SASUKE veterans. 2. I want stricter time limits, especially on Stage 2. Kajihara cleared Stage 2 last year with 20+ seconds left. That should never happen. Like I said in another thread, the fastest clear should only be with about 10-13 seconds left. Lower the time limit to 95 seconds. 3. Continued Morimoto Sedai success is also something I'd like to see. This is basically the new Shin Sedai of the SASUKE-kun era. With Jun Sato coming back, its pretty much certain that we get 3 members on Stage 3 (Jun, Yusuke, Tada). And hopefully Araki gets some long-awaited revenge as well. Maybe Shogo Ugajin will come back, who knows. 4. I want good weather for once. Most results in 37 were due to the rain. 38 had rain in Stage 3 and the Final Stage but it didn't matter because Yusuke is a god. And 39 had rain that basically ruined the second half of Stage 1. Luckily, the forecast is calling for high temps in the low 70s and lows in the 50s with no rain in sight, so this wish will probably come true. 5. Finally, I want more course changes. SASUKE 39 was a lackluster renewal. I'd like to see the Quad Steps, Silk Slider, Backstream, and Flying Bar all be replaced. Additionally, I'd like to see the Fish Bone, Rolling Log, Salmon Ladder, and Pipe Slider all modified. But it won't happen, so consider this impossible. Well they have been showing a few hopefuls that have been vouched for by various competitors on the YouTube channel, and my main thought was if they’re not going to get picked then why show them at all? It still baffles me how many of the rookie non-celebrities who get on to the show do so while guys who’ve been training for 5-10+ years don’t, because they all end up failing early and getting cut anyway. Like why not actually bring some talented new blood instead of just randos? I agree on the Morimoto Sedai point. Araki and Keitaro need to actually start performing well if the group as a whole want to be taken seriously. As of now, it’s just a moniker that gets selectively used and discarded fairly inconsistently, sort of similar to the Shin Sedai namesake, usually based on how members of said group perform in that tournament. It became a thing in 36 when all of them simultaneously gave their best ever runs, then mysteriously vanished in 37 when the majority of them failed Stage 1. Ugajin is also confirmed not to be a member of the group, and given that he got declined from 39, I’m not sure if he’s coming back anytime soon. I think we’re all hoping for no rain. I just hope that the recent bad luck they’ve been having at least prompts them to be better prepared for future tournaments. 37 through 39 happened because until then, we’d not had any sporadic bad weather since Sasuke 8 almost 20 years ago; so they almost treated the prospect of it raining on an outside course a non-issue. Especially after 39 I hope they’re more mindful of this, though I’m not really sure how much you can do to weather proof Stage 1 as it’s the only one of the four stages completely out in the open with no structure above it to tarp over.
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