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Post by dakohosu on Nov 26, 2021 13:09:09 GMT -5
So there’s been a lot of complaints about the numbers this season, particularly the mid-90s. But thinking about it it sort of makes sense given that neither Sato nor Takeda are competing and not many other competitors are deserving of such high numbers. Also a lot of the competitors who did well in the last tournament are the standard low-number scapegoats like Hioki and the Black Tigers.
How would you rank the last 10 competitors if it was up to you?
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Post by Sasuke Mania on Nov 26, 2021 13:44:53 GMT -5
So there’s been a lot of complaints about the numbers this season, particularly the mid-90s. But thinking about it it sort of makes sense given that neither Sato nor Takeda are competing and not many other competitors are deserving of such high numbers. Also a lot of the competitors who did well in the last tournament are the standard low-number scapegoats like Hioki and the Black Tigers. How would you rank the last 10 competitors if it was up to you? I mean, I don't have much of an issue with the final 10, tbh |
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 26, 2021 14:00:30 GMT -5
Neither. My only issue is Kawaguchi getting #98 as I think at this point the amount of hype he gets is beyond ridiculous given that he’s not even a celebrity and he’s failed Stage 1 twice now. I would’ve personally put Tada at #98 if it were up to me as he’s made the Final Stage more recently and is probably the second strongest competitor behind Yusuke.
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Post by Dazed (Wiin) on Nov 26, 2021 14:16:04 GMT -5
I have no problems, the only thing I'd do is move Tada to #98 then push everyone else down one. Off the back of this, I'd spend time hyping up Tada and create a profile for him and make him a competitor to follow. (Make him another Kawaguchi - Yusuke-level competitor where they always get a fluff piece and never get digested.)
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Post by Eclipse on Nov 26, 2021 14:17:05 GMT -5
Tomo --> #91
Shift everyone else up one
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 26, 2021 14:27:42 GMT -5
I think the main issue is that of the 5 competitors who made Stage 3 in the last tournament (who would typically make up the 90s), Yusuke is obvs 100, then Isa and Yoshiyuki just get low numbers anyway, and Sato isn’t competing. Then we’ve got Tada who doesn’t want high numbers due to pressure so him getting #91 was probably partially of his own choosing. Then Takeda would’ve been next to Shingo but he’s now retired; and Nagano isn’t competing this time. Then no one else really deserves to be that high up.
Mind you, #93 is a world champion speed climber so he might be a dark horse to watch out for.
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Nov 26, 2021 16:58:00 GMT -5
#96 is the worst choice of all the numbers from 91-100 because Yamada has zero chance of clearing Stage 1 and is now 56 which is why he deserves much lower numbers like the positions he received in 30 and 33 which was perfectly fair and it should’ve stayed that way. I honestly don’t care if they undeservedly keep giving him high numbers all the time just because of his unhealthy obsession with the show or for the darn ratings, but it doesn’t feel right to me because everyone knows he will 100% fail Stage 1, especially as he takes the course at a snails pace. I would’ve easily moved him further down to #51 immediately after his Black Tigers.
And #97-98 is because of Inui’s annoying bias towards these two 40 year olds who didn’t even clear the 1st Stage in the last two tournaments and should’ve continued to receive the same usual positions as last time or even lower. Tada is way more deserving of #98 than Kawaguchi because he’s just done better than him recently and is much younger with a large window of opportunity to keep performing well, while Tomo has entered a decline failing the Warped Wall in Stage 1 twice so god knows how he’ll handle having to scale the double version in this tournament. I would’ve dropped him and Darvish down a couple more notches to #94 and #91 as a result of their poor performances recently. My number choices for them would be far more sensible than Inui.
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Nov 26, 2021 17:08:43 GMT -5
I have no problems, the only thing I'd do is move Tada to #98 then push everyone else down one. Off the back of this, I'd spend time hyping up Tada and create a profile for him and make him a competitor to follow. (Make him another Kawaguchi - Yusuke-level competitor where they always get a fluff piece and never get digested.) Tada deserves way more hype and screen time than Kawaguchi because not only is he proving himself to be a top level challenger with his exceptional performances recently including a Final Stage attempt, but also cause he and two-time champion Morimoto are best friends which should be acknowledged more in the broadcast like in 37. This is why he should never get the fast forward treatment, unless he enters some sort of decline and I was highly shocked in 38 when the digesting situation happened to him twice for unknown reasons. |
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Post by hoseasasuke on Nov 27, 2021 6:27:34 GMT -5
Araki at #91, Tada at #98, Kawaguchi in the 80s, Yamada alongside his proteges.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Nov 27, 2021 12:49:32 GMT -5
100. Yusuke
99. Yuuji
98. Tada
97. Yoshiyuki
96. Yamada
95. Darvish
94. Araki
93. Ryo
92. Tomo
91. Keita
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Nov 27, 2021 13:17:20 GMT -5
100. Yusuke 99. Yuuji 98. Tada 97. Yoshiyuki 96. Yamada 95. Darvish 94. Araki 93. Ryo 92. Tomo 91. Keita But I thought you said Yamada getting #97 in the previous tournament was the most unfair number of all time which I agree with. |
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 27, 2021 13:40:55 GMT -5
If it were completely up to me:
100. Yusuke
99. Yuuji
98. Tada
97. Yoshiyuki
96. Isa
95. Hioki
94. Yamada
93. Shingo
92. Araki
91. Ryo
80s. Tomo, Darvish, ABC-Z, Snow Man, Araki, Keitaro, Takeru
70s. Nagasaki, Kanno, Suzuki (re leave it as is)
Other celebs can be wherever as that seems to be a running theme.
The reason I put Hioki, Isa and Yoshiyuki in the top spots is that I feel that there are enough strong competitors in the lower numbers (I mean Saikawa got #9 lol) to justify putting them higher for a change and giving them numbers reflective of their performance.
Controversially I bumped both Tomo and Darvish down to the 80s just because they’ve failed Stage 1 twice now, and Darvish used to routinely run in the 80s until he started doing well, but now he’s regressed so I feel like he deserves to run among the other ‘lesser’ celebrities. Tomo I think I’d put at like 89 given that Shunsuke got bumped down to 70 after similar setbacks.
I also put Takeru in the 80s given that he always seemed to run there when he did compete, though they really seem to be hyping him up much more now.
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Nov 27, 2021 14:56:59 GMT -5
You inserted Araki’s name twice in the 90s and 80s.
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 27, 2021 15:34:25 GMT -5
Oh oops. I’d say he deserves low 90s for coming 9th in Sasuke 38.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Nov 27, 2021 15:35:56 GMT -5
100. Yusuke 99. Yuuji 98. Tada 97. Yoshiyuki 96. Yamada 95. Darvish 94. Araki 93. Ryo 92. Tomo 91. Keita But I thought you said Yamada getting #97 in the previous tournament was the most unfair number of all time which I agree with. Did I say that? I'm fine with putting celebs/legacy competitors high up. Early Sasuke pretty much did the same thing. Also I forgot to include Isa. I could go either way with him being high or low, but I'd keep Hioki low at this point. |
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Post by Sasuke Mania on Nov 27, 2021 20:13:17 GMT -5
100. Yusuke 99. Yuuji 98. Tada 97. Yoshiyuki 96. Yamada 95. Darvish 94. Araki 93. Ryo 92. Tomo 91. Keita But I thought you said Yamada getting #97 in the previous tournament was the most unfair number of all time which I agree with. People are able to change their opinions ya know |
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Post by dakohosu on Nov 28, 2021 4:17:21 GMT -5
It’s actually quite impressive that you manage to remember a highly specific comment that a specific member said well over a year ago..... speaking of which, a year is a decent amount of time to change your perspective on something....
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Nov 28, 2021 7:54:51 GMT -5
I checked my post history from last year and unless I'm missing something I didn't even say that lol. No worries though I understand why people think Yamada shouldn't get that number. I just think it's good for ratings and you could bracket him up with Yoshiyuki ideally
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Post by CustomGaming57 on Nov 28, 2021 9:09:15 GMT -5
His Black Tiger pupil Yoshiyuki is way more deserving of mid-late 90s than Yamada himself because he is turning out to be an exceptional dark horse with great Kanzenseiha potential. I was expecting him to get at least 60s or 70s this time round.
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Post by hoseasasuke on Nov 28, 2021 10:57:45 GMT -5
His Black Tiger pupil Yoshiyuki is way more deserving of mid-late 90s than Yamada himself because he is turning out to be an exceptional dark horse with great Kanzenseiha potential. I was expecting him to get at least 60s or 70s this time round. Black Tigers have always been early runners, even when they were doing well with 2-3 guys in the 2nd stage. |
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