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Post by sasukeninjawarrior on Sept 23, 2021 16:46:30 GMT -5
If competitors who are able to reach across the ledge on cliffhanger without the jump, would they be DQ'd?
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Post by subtleagent on Sept 23, 2021 17:14:21 GMT -5
While I wanna say no, knowing Inui he probably would have some dumb rule like that in effect for whatever reason. The intention is clearly to jump and as we've seen with obstacles like the Rolling Hill, Swap Salmon Ladder, Crazy Cliffhanger, Reverse Conveyor, and Fish Bone he tends to implement these dumb rules that make the failures on said obstacles rather anti-climactic. And most of these rules in effect are a result of design flaws or poor planning/explanation of the obstacle. So I would ultimately guess yes because that would sound like an Inui thing to do. It's just another reason why I think he's not really that great of a director. Yes, Higuchi had blunders too, but he at least felt like he had a plan whereas Inui feels like he focuses too hard on certain things and overlooks others. Be it unnecessary Cliffhanger buffs or half assed groupings of generic randos in a misguided effort to recapture the golden era.
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Post by dakohosu on Sept 24, 2021 5:40:31 GMT -5
100% yes.
That’s why they made the transition 1.8 metres; on average your arm span is equal to your height and most competitors on Sasuke aren’t 1.8m tall, so they made sure there was no possibility of that happening.
If for whatever reason we got some huge competitor with the longest arms who was able to reach across then there would defo be a DQ. If you’re not allowed to do the transition forward-facing then you definitely wouldn’t be allowed to reach over. I think it’s stupid as reaching that distance would probably be as hard if not harder than just doing the jump; but as subtleagent mentioned Inui just has this penchant for disqualifying competitors in the most unfair way possible. At least in this case though the obstacle is designed such that you basically have to jump, unlike the Fish Bone or Reverse Conveyer situations.
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Post by Ninja Relaxer on Sept 27, 2021 16:01:01 GMT -5
If they made Drew re-do the Cliffhanger for doing it backwards, they would 100% disqualify someone for reaching across the gap instead of jumping. The only reason Drew was allowed to re-do the obstacle (instead of being disqualified) was because he claimed he didn't know it was against the rules.
There was that time, though, when Kong reached across one of the old Cliffhanger gaps instead of swinging and jumping. I wonder what the producers thought of that. I thought it was pretty clever the way he crossed his arms to increase his reach.
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Post by dakohosu on Sept 28, 2021 12:31:42 GMT -5
The ruling was way more relaxed until Inui took the helm so I’m not surprised Kong was allowed to traverse the obstacle in the way he did. Besides, for most competitors that move would be considered almost harder than just jumping. Shunsuke tried to do it and still failed.
Ever since Inui took over Sasuke we’ve seen dumb DQ after dumb DQ. The whole Swap Salmon Ladder fiasco, the Fish Bone rule, Drew’s Backstream DQ. The worst thing about these DQs is that Inui doesn’t even bother to design the obstacle in such a way that prevents these instances from occurring (like making the Fish Bone’s landing pad insanely wide) and instead just disqualifies competitors off the bat. He’s also been responsible for a load of controversies that we basically never saw in older seasons, like wet Cliffhanger ledges, awful organisation (Sasuke 32 being an example), malfunctioning obstacles like the Dragon Glider and CHD in 38 etc.
Anyway, at least in the case of the Crazy Cliffhanger the distance for the 180 transition is so large that unless you’re like 7 foot tall you wouldn’t physically be able to reach over. That’s probably why it’s 1.8 metres which is way larger than the arm spans of most competitors. As someone who’s been scared of laches and jumping bars for years, I can tell you your reflex reaction is to reach out with one hand first rather than jumping as it’s way safer. If the distance between the ledges was, say, only 1 metre, then loads of competitors would reach over out of instinct in fear of falling otherwise which knowing Inui would result in s*** tonnes of DQs.
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