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Post by m4tt3r0x on Jun 7, 2021 20:47:59 GMT -5
Which obstacle(s) would you least want to attempt on the course out of pure fear?
I think the most intimidating obstacles were:
3. Circle Slider. If you've ever jumped off of the high dive at a swimming pool, I think only then you can relate to this one. The ways Nagano and Hioki failed it didn't look too pleasant. The Dragon Glider is pretty close to this nowadays though.
2. Flying Chute. Whiplash.
1. Spider Flip. I don't blame Kanno for bailing out in 22 on it. Maybe some people don't have a fear of heights and don't understand, but I think it's more likely the case that most people haven't ever been that high up off the ground before. I actually don't know if that's why Kanno retired early that tournament, and as a gymnast it's quite possible it was mainly due to him just being tired and not afraid, but either way I think the point still stands: I certainly can attest that I would have probably dipped early on that thing. I remember when I was a tester for ANW 8 in 2016, and I got on top of this one obstacle (I think it was called the Wall Drop... the most convoluted obstacle the show had ever dished out at that point) in Philly Qualifying. You had to jump off of this high wall and onto a trampoline on level with the water and catch this punching bag thing, all after traversing some Atomik holds (which got changed out after testing). I quickly came to realize that doing obstacles on the ground in my backyard or in a gym was a vastly different experience than doing one at least 10 feet off the ground.
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Post by subtleagent on Jun 8, 2021 2:05:49 GMT -5
Balance Tank is kind of scary. Yamada, Bunpei, and Kanno's fails really convinced me there. Not many people did fail it, but you ran the risk of wiping out pretty badly if you did.
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Post by darthvaderlim on Jun 8, 2021 2:13:21 GMT -5
I'd go with Half-Pipe Attack, since there are so many ways you can screw up the landing like You-know-who from Sasuke 27.
Rolling log is another one due to dizziness, the log derailing, or being stuck halfway.
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Post by Dazed (Wiin) on Jun 8, 2021 2:30:56 GMT -5
The flying chute is nightmare material.
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Post by tns8597 on Jun 8, 2021 9:38:46 GMT -5
Mine would be:
- Flying Chute: my worst fear would be if you made contact with the rope with your neck or something. Not surprised it got removed and never brought back in any shape or form.
- Warped Wall: While this hasn't really happened in competition, I'd be really worried about falling backwards and smacking my head on the hard floor, or even worse falling off the side of the wall which is what happened to Takeda in Sasuke 7. I can definitely imagine myself getting cold feet given that the more aggressive a failed attempt is, the harder you fall (literally).
- Balance Tank: Wouldn't have put this one if it wasn't for Bunpei's fail in 14; that looked hella painful.
- Sasuke 29 Backstream: literally subjecting yourself to potentially drowning. No more need be said lol.
- Sasuke 27 HPA: not surprised more injuries didn't occur other than Drew; being forced to land on a hard wooden log from that height was never going to end well, also I'd just be scared of slipping off the half-pipe and screwing up my ankle or knee depending on the fall.
Also, while this isn't in the right set of threads, shoutout to some frankly horrendous obstacles introduced in ANW, particularly obstacles like the Corkscrew and Angry Birds.
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Post by zoran on Jun 8, 2021 10:01:09 GMT -5
Fishbone hate the randomness.
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Post by Ninja Relaxer on Jun 8, 2021 11:09:31 GMT -5
Mine would be: - Flying Chute: my worst fear would be if you made contact with the rope with your neck or something. Not surprised it got removed and never brought back in any shape or form. I don't know if the show had a Health & Safety department at that time, but they sure dropped the ball on this one. This obstacle never should have seen the light of day, IMO. Not only was it dangerous, but it was un-fun to watch and ruined a lot of promising runs. I blame it for ruining Sasuke 19-21. Yep. It never looked all that scary to me until I saw a homemade version at a gym. There is no way I would even attempt this obstacle, for the very reasons you stated. Falling backward and taking a knock on the head seems like a very real possibility. I'm surprised more people don't get hurt on it. Yeah. I don't think the Balance Tank would ever clear Health & Safety today. Bunpei's lucky he didn't break his neck. And there's probably no way to modernize the obstacle, since it's not like you can add padding to the tank. I'd attempt it, but I'd never beat it, because I think I'd be too afraid to dive, which is pretty much necessary to beat it. Even the run-up looks like a potential ankle-twister. You really need a lot of speed to make it to the rope, which means total commitment. This is one of those obstacles where even a little fear or timidity will cause you to fail, I think. And no, I don't think I would have the guts to even attempt it. |
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Post by subtleagent on Jun 8, 2021 12:07:28 GMT -5
Nagasawa's fail in 27 definitely came to mind on the HPA. The way he hit his side and rolled off. I thought he legit cracked a rib. No wonder he retired after that.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Jun 8, 2021 12:52:50 GMT -5
Warped Wall is definitely an obstacle you need to know how to bail on. I find it safest to just slide down while leaning forward against the wall. The first time I ever tried one it was wet from the rain, and after coming no where close to reaching the top, I turned around and jumped down to the ground and sprained my ankle. There's also sometimes the fear that the damn ledge on top might break off if you're going up a particularly old or shabby one.
And yeah like Ninja Relaxer said, the Half Pipe Attack in hindsight actually does look like a reasonable ankle hazard.
Also I should mention the Great Wall looked scary. You're grabbing a rope that high up, likely with just one hand, with nothing but the hard wood to fall back on if you miss or can't hang on. Plus you have to not fall off as you pull yourself up and over it. I think people underestimate how much higher you are and feel like you are on these obstacles until you're actually on them.
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Post by tns8597 on Jun 8, 2021 14:01:26 GMT -5
Keitaro in 37 and Kawaguchi in 38 took a hard fall after their last failed attempts respectively but luckily landed on their backs.
One thing I’m surprised by is how the Rope Glider got removed after Sasuke 18 but the Flying Chute didn’t (though I’m glad it didn’t given that it was a sick obstacle). I suppose they only care once someone actually gets injured which is a great way to get the show cancelled as was shown by that stupid boulder obstacle on Kinniku Banzuke.
For those of you who don’t know the show got cancelled because they had a challenge where you had to push a huge boulder up a hill and unsurprisingly a couple of guys ran out of steam resulting in the boulder rolling backwards and paralysing one of the competitors.
I’d honestly prefer the show to play it a bit safer if it means H&S won’t stop Sasuke for good, we’ve been pretty lucky so far given how dangerous some of the above mentioned could have been.
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Post by salt on Jun 10, 2021 5:19:04 GMT -5
Speaking of the Rope Glider, that thing looks so scary. Flying down on a rope at high speeds while having to land on a cobblestone platform looks like almost guaranteed broken legs. How did it only injure a few people?
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Post by tns8597 on Jun 10, 2021 5:42:52 GMT -5
It wasn’t a cobblestone platform, that was just the design. It was actually a soft landing pad, nonetheless if you land awkwardly it can still cause injuries as it did for a few competitors.
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Post by Dazed (Wiin) on Jun 10, 2021 9:43:22 GMT -5
Yeah, actually now that other people have mentioned the wall, I think that one is frightening as well. I never think about landing/hitting your head though, as much as that would be something to worry about. I always just have landing on your tailbone in mind, which would hurt like hell (and would easily be broken).
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Post by dudesky1000 on Jun 10, 2021 10:31:11 GMT -5
First time posting in a super long time.... but I have a fun story to share so I'll bite. Back in the old days at Chris W.'s original Movement Lab (called the Warrior Lab at the time) I was secretly deathly afraid of the Warped Wall he had built there. It was actually very well constructed, but I believe it was a bit taller and a bit thinner than the Sasuke version so it was super intimidating to me as someone who had never attempted one before, and I was afraid of missing the top and wiping out. As some of you may remember I'm a long distance runner so I felt I had pretty good legs to get up there, but a few spills left me spooked so I had a real fear of going at it at full force and taking myself out of commission.
One night (which Philip may remember), during one of the first Warrior Weekend events, Mike Bernardo was really pulling for me to clear it, and after he told me to think of my legs running up the wall like Sonic the Hedgehog, I remember just going for broke and finally clearing it, which was a pretty awesome moment. Knowing I could do it definitely helped me overcome that fear.
Doing some basic Jumping Bars on the other hand.... never really got comfortable with that! Lol.
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Post by Ninja Relaxer on Jun 10, 2021 11:09:29 GMT -5
I always just have landing on your tailbone in mind, which would hurt like hell (and would easily be broken). Speaking of which, the Jumping Spider resulted in a few painful wipeouts like that. Rie Komiya basically landed on her tailbone or lower back, as I recall, as did Wacky and other competitors I'm sure I'm forgetting. I'm not sure I'd call the Jumping Spider dangerous, or even intimidating, but I do think it's a lot harder than it looks. |
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Post by tns8597 on Jun 10, 2021 11:21:01 GMT -5
Pretty sure any obstacle can f*** you up if you go at it the wrong way or just get unlucky. Hence why they implemented the arm and knee pads for the Rising era. Even if someone failed an obstacle in the most dumbfuck way that resulted in them getting injured and no one else had done so, that still puts the show at risk of cancellation. Better safe than sorry.
What I find weird was how they even forced competitors to wear helmets during the Sasuke 11 Monkey Bar trials but not in the actual show for another 10 years after.
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Post by subtleagent on Jun 10, 2021 14:45:05 GMT -5
Ishimaru and Sakakibara did the same thing as Wakky and Komiya too. Though all of them ended up fine. All of them turned out fine though, though Yuuji's save in 26 did look a bit painful. If he had landed wrong that would've been rough.
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Post by sackeshi on Jun 12, 2021 10:50:12 GMT -5
1. Any of the stage 3 obstacles that have you 30 feet in the air heights terrify me lol.
2. Flying chute for sure just because you really have to commit like no other obstacle before or since. Honestly I don't think it's that dangerous and wouldn't mind seeing it make a return on ANW or Sasuke since it was one of the hardest first stage obstacles ever.
3. Warped wall. I actually did the 17 ft on in Brian's gym getting down was the scary part lol. but the more steep 14ft walls are much scarier.
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Post by ArbuthnotBlob on Jun 12, 2021 16:50:41 GMT -5
Totally backing up Spider Flip - just flinging yourself through the air while that high up? Terrifying. Completely duff it up and you could really hurt yourself if you somehow go wide - being deep in Stage 3 was probably the only thing that stopped it from being a terrible accident source given you had to have good physical control just to get there.
Not to mention that time Okayuma (I think? In 23?) must surely have given himself awful friction burns when he grabbed the far plank and slid all the way down it and dropped. Owwwwww.
Also, Spider Walk (apparently my favourite obstacles are also the ones I'm most scared of xD) - that time Nagano failed, well, technically the back half of the Jumping Spider, in 24, and bounced off the walls like 3 times while falling down? Ooh, nasty.
Not an official obstacle, but at a Ninja... theme park? (it's not a proper gym, you pay to go in and try a couple of obstacle gauntlets and the wall) here in Belfast, they had this set of bars you could lache between, but they were rigged up so when you swung one, the rest would swing too - I got on the first and started swinging, and just thought "If I try this transfer I'm gonna snap my wrists like twigs" and completely bailed xD
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Post by kiminonawasasuke on Jun 13, 2021 8:10:21 GMT -5
Not an official obstacle, but at a Ninja... theme park? (it's not a proper gym, you pay to go in and try a couple of obstacle gauntlets and the wall) here in Belfast, they had this set of bars you could lache between, but they were rigged up so when you swung one, the rest would swing too - I got on the first and started swinging, and just thought "If I try this transfer I'm gonna snap my wrists like twigs" and completely bailed xD Is that Swing Ladder? ![]() |
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