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Post by Ninja Relaxer on Feb 5, 2021 0:15:25 GMT -5
Do you think any of the female competitors trained as hard for Sasuke as the men did?
Obviously the course isn't designed for women, but I'm surprised there weren't more female Stage 1 clears after Sasuke 2. Rie Komiya looked like a top female contender -- sh had 6 attempts at the course, which should have been more than enough to prove herself, but she failed Stage 1 every time. I don't know if that's because the course really is that much harder for women, or if Rie just wasn't training hard enough for Sasuke.
Other promising female contenders were Miyake Ayako (another Kunoichi All Star) and Chie Nishimura, but neither of them competed more than twice. Is that because they didn't want to, or because they weren't invited back?
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Feb 5, 2021 1:56:24 GMT -5
OK, first of all, why you put Chie Tanabe in promising female competitors? She is literally the one Japanese woman who Clear the First Stage. Unless I assume that you thought that Chie Nishimura is a different person, which of course I will find it funny.
Second, they are damn serious. See Oshima Ayano for example, she is willing to give it everything she got to beat First Stage. How can that was not considered serious? All I see now is it is just bad luck.
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Post by tns8597 on Feb 6, 2021 13:51:03 GMT -5
I think the reason why we don't see more serious female competitors is that it's undoubtedly very daunting to try their luck at a course where only 2 female contenders have ever cleared the First Stage. If the odds are against you (from a purely statistical perspective, not necessarily skills-based as Ayano is flipping strong), then you're obviously less likely to invest your time into training for the show. Just in the same way that if you had the chance to go on TV to solve a maths problem that only 1 in 100,000 people had ever solved correctly, you'd be less likely to take that chance as the odds of success aren't in your favour, regardless of whether you're the best mathematician in the world.
I'm confident that it's this barrier of not expecting to do well/assuming that the course is much more geared towards men with taller and more muscular physiques (which it arguably isn't, but the success rates may portray this idea) that prevent a lot of potentially strong female competitors from even trying. Besides Ayano, who can easily hang with the men by doing the Crazy Cliffhanger jumps and Vertical Limit, which female competitors actively train for Sasuke? Not very many. Jessie Graff is put on this pedestal as though she's untouchable/no female competitor will ever be as strong as she is, but the fact of the matter is that she trained day and night for both ANW and Sasuke to the point that she was confident enough to take on the course despite no female having cleared Stage 1 in almost 20 years. No doubt other female athletes can replicate that level of success if they shrug off the aforementioned barrier and train in the same way that Ayano and Jessie do, granted the former has been quite unlucky results-wise.
In terms of the other female competitors who we've seen (only referring to the serious ones, not like Cyber Karen etc.), I think that a lot of the competitors who tried Sasuke after doing well on Kunoichi only did so because TBS invited them for the latter reason, and the fact that they otherwise exclusively competed on Kunoichi which is an objectively easier course alone makes you think that they doubted their ability when it comes to the much bigger, badder, and more daunting Sasuke. Jessie likely never competed on Kunoichi because she was confident enough in her abilities to take on the main course which paid off as she's reached Stage 3 twice, while Ayano is a rare case of a competitor who's sort of 'graduated' from Kunoichi to Sasuke, which has culminated in her massively intensifying her training to scale her skillset up relative to the difficulty increase.
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