Akiyama, despite not having anywhere near the all-round ability of Nagano, is an insane rope climber and had trained for the Final Stage for years before Nagano had (I think Nagano only started really training rope climbing prior to Sasuke 11).
Also, from a statistical perspective, Akiyama in Sasuke 4 climbed the Tsuna Nobori at an average rate of 62.5cm per second (15m in 24 seconds). His upper body strength in Sasuke 12 was also arguably stronger than in 4 despite him perhaps not being as adept on Stage 1, due to adapting to the course changes (he almost failed the first Cliffhanger in 4, but struggled comparatively less on the harder Kai in 12). Assuming that extra strength is offset by having to do the Spider Climb first (which I'm not sure how realistic that is given that the Spider Climb is 90% legs), if Akiyama reached the rope with 16 seconds left and went at the same pace, then he would've hit the buzzer just in time.
R/e whether he'll complete the Spider Climb at a sufficiently quick pace, if his Sasuke 4 Spider Walk was anything to go by, he is ferociously fast on the obstacle so that's an entire possibility. Not to mention that Akiyama is lighter than Nagano, as well as being an arguably more experienced rope climber. And yes, Nagano was statistically way more successful in that era but that's by and large due to his ability to get through Stages 1 and 2 no matter what yet with Akiyama the former seemed to be his Achilles' heel due to his eyesight. In terms of upper body strength, I honestly reckon there's not much in it between them.
So overall, I think there's a good chance that Akiyama would've been able to Kanzen, by and large due to me being confident in his abilities based on how we've seen him tackle similar obstacles and skills required to defeat the Final Stage. It would be very close, but I think he could've done it with a second or so left.
Last Edit: Jan 25, 2021 14:09:03 GMT -5 by tns8597
Akiyama wins with less than 2.5 secs or maybe even less than a second. I feel he would go the same pace on the spider climb consistent with Asaoka but as we saw in his lone attempt, as well as being mentioned earlier he is an elite Rope Climber, on par with Yuuji on Rope Climbing skill and I think he would've beaten the time thanks to his rope climbing
However I could also see him maybe even pulling off what Nagano did the same tournament (more realistically a Morimoto in 36) in which he fails squarely because of his poor night vision. If he loses time and momentum at any point in his run, it would be the transition from spider climb to rope, not as dramatic as how Nagano lost time in SK11 but maybe a bit of a delay due to his vision. If not if he has a good run but fails to kanzen, it would be in a dramatic way, probably tiring near the end but I think the other way would be more likely
Post by wrestlingfan55 on Jan 26, 2021 16:54:42 GMT -5
That Final Stage was (and still is) no joke. At that time, I doubt Akiyama would have been as well prepared for it as he was in Sasuke 4.
I do wonder, with Akiyama, when exactly did he lose interest with training for Sasuke? His potential, even after his win, was still high. His upper body was just as good as Nagano's, but he never seemed to work on his lower body.
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Post by ChiBiJKT48 on Jan 26, 2021 18:03:37 GMT -5
That could be after SASUKE 12. He return to SASUKE 6 because he wanted to prove that he was worthy of his Kanzenseiha, but we know what happen. After this, he start to built a replica of Jump Hang *and later Soritatsu Kabe when he couldn't beat it in SASUKE 10* at his home. When he finally clear that two obstacles, even returning to Third Stage two times, he think that he already can prove that his Kanzenseiha is no fluke.
We even saw him tear down his Jump Hang and Soritatsu Kabe set in the fluff piece of SASUKE 13, so that maybe is the time when he think he has enough with SASUKE and he will compete as best as he can until a new Grand Champion emerge *this again proven when he retired right after Nagano achieve Kanzenseiha*.
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ChiBiJKT48 I don't blame him. Until Sasuke 17 there was no competitor who had less to prove than Akiyama as he was the ONLY champion. I do find it weird though how during that era the only competitor to have cleared all 4 stages was (in terms of results at least) considerably the worst performing of all the All-Stars. Must've been a weird feeling to be the lone champion yet have that title shrouded by constant Stage 1 failures.
I remember in Sk6 that he practiced the cliffhanger by literally hanging off a bridge, which is insane but that shows the commitment he had to the show. Also if I remember correctly he had knee surgery, and I'm pretty sure they said that during the monologue after his sk11 clear so maybe that had its part in it?
Yeah that makes sense given that he started getting 70-80s after Sasuke 13 despite doing decently well by that point. Though they did f**k him over in Sasuke 25 where they gave him #98, but he didn't actually seem to have much problem with any obstacles where his eye sight may have hindered him.