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Post by BLM on Jun 2, 2009 20:51:23 GMT -5
I would pick Yamada because he hung on to the salmon ladder until the time ran out when washimi lost his grip
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Post by chackpop on Jun 2, 2009 21:04:10 GMT -5
they both failed at the exact same location, rung
koji only kept his grip for 5 more seconds so its not that much of a difference
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jun 2, 2009 21:26:55 GMT -5
Even though they failed at the same place with minor difference. I'm going to say Yamada Koji because he had a "Dry Run" when Washimi fell into the water
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Post by The Chief on Jun 2, 2009 21:44:53 GMT -5
statistically, Koji wins for that extra 5 seconds...
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Post by Oti on Jun 2, 2009 22:57:04 GMT -5
Yeah... Yamada.
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Jun 2, 2009 23:52:58 GMT -5
Washimi already knew he was about to fall off because he failed the last rung three times already. He did something called going to failure, Yamada didn't really do that as much as Washimi. The mistake Koji made when the stick fell down two rungs is what made Washimi's better.
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Post by Oti on Jun 3, 2009 1:42:51 GMT -5
I don't go to failure when I work out.  |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 3, 2009 16:25:05 GMT -5
I don't go to failure when I work out. But I certainly hope you do during your run, if you ever get on Sasuke. Returning to topic, I would say whoever reached that rung the fastest (regardless of how long they stayed there) would take precedence if you had to rank them. |
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Post by BLM on Jun 3, 2009 17:25:30 GMT -5
I don't go to failure when I work out. But I certainly hope you do during your run, if you ever get on Sasuke. Returning to topic, I would say whoever reached that rung the fastest (regardless of how long they stayed there) would take precedence if you had to rank them. This is when they got to the that rung Yamada- 55.1 seconds left Washimi- 48.5 seconds left So yamada still made it farther |
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Post by Oti on Jun 3, 2009 20:34:34 GMT -5
Well yeah, you have no business on the course if you're going to quit.
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Post by Lennon on Jun 5, 2009 12:35:14 GMT -5
There needs to be a third option. Equal.  I can't justify who is better by that close of a call. |
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Post by chackpop on Jun 6, 2009 18:10:15 GMT -5
I still think washimi got farther. He got farther than Yamada because almost reached the final rung. Yamada didn't even get half way between the final two rungs.
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Post by bigblind168 on Jun 6, 2009 18:32:09 GMT -5
I still think washimi got farther. He got farther than Yamada because almost reached the final rung. Yamada didn't even get half way between the final two rungs. yhe, but technicly he did an extra rung. since whgen he got to the last normal rung, his right side fell 2 rows. so he went up 2 rows, 2 rungs a row. so yeah... |
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Post by VenusHeadTrap on Jun 6, 2009 21:18:20 GMT -5
I still think washimi got farther. He got farther than Yamada because almost reached the final rung. Yamada didn't even get half way between the final two rungs. yhe, but technicly he did an extra rung. since whgen he got to the last normal rung, his right side fell 2 rows. so he went up 2 rows, 2 rungs a row. so yeah... That was still a mistake, Yuji didn't mess that up. |
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Post by japantv1210 on Jun 7, 2009 13:20:54 GMT -5
I'd actually have to give it to Washimi, because even though Yamada didn't get wet, it seemed to me that Washimi almost got to the last rung. To me, it appeared he had enough height on a few of his jumps, but he just didn't have the time at that height to push the bar back on the rungs. Even though Yamada fell down two rungs on one side and was able to successfully recover for the most part, he didn't get close to clearing the largest gap.
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Post by bigblind168 on Jun 8, 2009 7:21:28 GMT -5
I'd actually have to give it to Washimi, because even though Yamada didn't get wet, it seemed to me that Washimi almost got to the last rung. To me, it appeared he had enough height on a few of his jumps, but he just didn't have the time at that height to push the bar back on the rungs. Even though Yamada fell down two rungs on one side and was able to successfully recover for the most part, he didn't get close to clearing the largest gap. cuz he was tired, he did more rungs then washimi did |
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Post by Badalight on Jun 8, 2009 14:18:02 GMT -5
Yeah, but that's Koji's fault for making that mistake, Washimi didn't make that mistake.
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Post by Oti on Jun 8, 2009 15:28:56 GMT -5
Fixing a crooked bar on the Salmon Ladder is harder than doing it correctly the first time.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Jun 8, 2009 15:54:41 GMT -5
True, but what Bada is saying is that Washimi shouldn't get punished for doing the Salmon Ladder right up until the 6th bar.
Also, although this holds little merit. The way TBS pick the numbering for the SASUKE 13 trials, if you failed the obstacle, you would get a higher seed than if you timed out on that obstacle.
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Post by Badalight on Jun 8, 2009 16:31:20 GMT -5
Fixing a crooked bar on the Salmon Ladder is harder than doing it correctly the first time. So lets say Nagano does the first stage flawlessly up until say the half pipe attack, and he fails there. Now someone else tries stage 1, let's see Shingo. He stumbles because of his bad balance but he always seems to recover, yet, he still fails the same obstacle as Nagano. Who had the better run? Nagano, because he didn't have to recover from those mistakes his run was over-all better even though he failed in the same place. Shingo on the other hand, had trouble so even though it's admirable that he recovered you can't say he did as good as Nagano. Same here. It's cool that Koji recovered but he's the one who made the mistake, and Washimi didn't. Also, who had the faster time on stage 1? |
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