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Post by supernovamaniac on Jun 5, 2009 8:02:07 GMT -5
See, and this is I have such low karma (besides the personal attacks). People on this board can't tell the difference between criticizing, discussing and flaming. There is no aggression in my post above. There is no insult. There's potential, I guess, but you really have to twist it for that. I'm telling him I don't believe he has stronger legs than David and since he says he just BARELY beat the Log Grip, 80% is way too much. So. Yeah. Not irony. Or hypocrisy. TOUCHE If I were to compete, I wouldn't make it far. 1st Stage Steps - 100 % Circle Hammer 60% only because I don't have good rope grips Log Grip - 70% Jumping spider 20% only because I can't stick Halfpipe attack 60 % Rope grip is only concern Warped wall - 50% Climbing after the grip is the only problem Slider Jump - 30% GRIP! Rope swing - ladder - 90% - All cardio. 2nd Stage Down hill jump - 50 % Eww ropes Salmon Ladder - 10% Weak Upper Body Strength = GG Stick slider - 100% Swing Ladder - 90 % Metal spin - 20% Uh oh ropes... Wall lift - 60% 3rd Stage Arm rings - 75% This doesn't look all that hard. Downward Lamp Graspar - 30% Devil Steps - 20% Shin Cliff Hanger - 15 % If it wasn't for the jumping part.... JUmping bar - 30% Hang Climbing 10% I have weak upper body strength. Spider flip - 20% The Jumping part doesn't scare me a lot because... its all or nothing. But the climbing and going down part is the section where it most concerns me. Gliding Ring - 99% Final Stage Heavenly Ladder - 60% It depends on my stamina G Rope - 0% I still can't climb ropes Chance of finishing all 4 stages right now = -100%
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Post by BLM on Jun 5, 2009 8:53:48 GMT -5
Stage 1: Sextuple Steps 100% So Easy Circle Hammer 100% Same as above Log Grip 50% idk but i am confident of it Jumping Spider 20% I can do the spider walk but the jump i am not sure Halfpipe Attack 50% I could slip and miss the rope Warped Wall 80% I am tall so i would make it Slider Jump 5% I really suck at it and i would miss the net Rope Ladder 90% I could run out of time Stage 2: Downhill Jump 50% I could lose my balance Salmon Ladder 1% i have hardly any upper body strength Stick Slider 90% i could miss the platform Swing Ladder 100% i could to this in my sleep Metal Spin 50% again miss the rope Wall Lift 5% i would run out of time Stage 3: Arm Rings 90% it is pretty easy Globe Grasp 10% i suck at glope grasp Devil Steps 10% i suck at this too Cliff Hanger 0.0001% i cant do the jump Jumping Bars 60% i practice this every day Hang Climbing 20% i probaly could if i use my feet but i will still fail Spider Flip 50% the climb is pretty hard Gliding Ring 10% i wont make the final jump Final Stage: Heavenly Ladder 100% so easy G Rope 1% i cant climb rope
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Post by Badalight on Jun 6, 2009 14:25:21 GMT -5
I like how I decided to do a % thing and everyone afterwards copied from me Oti: Yes, but at the same time a 13 year old girl, and a 60 year old man could beat it. Are you saying they have stronger legs than David? No... I don't think they do. David did also mention that he thought weight was a large factor. I guarantee David weighs a lot more than me. I have no good way to practice for the drops in the log grip, but I've practice on punching bags, trees, everything. I can hold on for a long time. So I said together with my light weight, strong fingers, and strong legs it'd be easy for me. David probably does have stronger legs, but who knows by how much. I do have really strong legs.
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Post by obakemono on Jun 6, 2009 18:06:33 GMT -5
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Post by Oti on Jun 6, 2009 19:53:18 GMT -5
I believe your legs are in great shape and your cardio is really good, but that doesn't necessarily translate to a lot of leg strength. That's why I asked a long time ago how much you squat, but you never answered.
I'll meet you half-way. I don't believe you'll pass it with ease, but I don't think it will necessarily be your downfall. Kk?
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Post by Badalight on Jun 6, 2009 20:18:52 GMT -5
whoaaa... guess I wasn't the first. Still, after I said mine everyone else started doing it. Oti: Well I never said it would be easy, just that I had a good chance of passing it. So okay, I'll agree with you there Squatting: Good question, I don't know the answer. I'd imagine it's not that great though as my knees are in terrible shape so that may affect it. And it depends on what you count as a squat. Like legs at 90%? Or do you have to basically touch the floor (like my gym coach makes us do)
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Post by Oti on Jun 6, 2009 20:28:48 GMT -5
What are you talking about? You load a barbell, put it on your shoulders and squat until your upper legs are parallel with the ground, plus or minus a few degrees.
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Post by Badalight on Jun 6, 2009 21:14:20 GMT -5
I know how to squat... I just do it 2 different ways, 1 with my legs parallel to the ground and the way my coach makes us do it where we have to touch the floor with our rear ends.
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Post by Oti on Jun 7, 2009 4:38:17 GMT -5
Parallel. That is the standard squat.
"a** to the floor", as it is called, is an Olympic lift. It typically uses less weight, which results in lower strength gains, but it has a much larger range of motion that isn't quite hit with the standard squat.
I dunno about you, but I'm not gonna go to the Olympics for squatting.
What is your 1RM in the standard, parallel squat?
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Post by davidcampbell on Jun 9, 2009 3:46:05 GMT -5
About the log grip. It's not THAT hard obviously as young and slightly elderly people have passed it. You do have to be fairly strong for your weight at least. The amount that the drops jolt you WAS shocking though as I said before. I think part of what happens with this obstacle is that sometimes strong people underestimate the obstacle and don't really hold on as much as they can or use poor technique. While the weaker competitors fear it, expect it to be hard for them and hold on with all their might. I think wearing shorts and putting some sticky spray on the legs makes a significant difference (advice if you guys ever get there). Women are generally lighter and have strong legs so thay aren't at a disadvantage on this one (also they often wear shorts).
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Post by Lennon on Jun 9, 2009 23:32:30 GMT -5
I figured a way you can train for the log Grip without actually making a complete replica. You grip onto a tree trunk or punching bag like Badalight said he has been doing. Then have somebody punch you in the ribs a few times at full force and see if you hang on. What? David DID mention that the drops felt like a punch.. Well, except to his entire body.. But I thought a punch to the ribs would suffice.
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Post by Badalight on Jun 10, 2009 0:09:43 GMT -5
Ya ya, so wear short, and hold on as tight as you can.
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Post by Oti on Jun 10, 2009 0:11:30 GMT -5
I don't care for shorts, really, but I'll hold on for sure.
So, your squat?
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Post by Badalight on Jun 10, 2009 1:23:36 GMT -5
Oti: I have no idea what I max, i won't know the answer to that until I go back to school in August.
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Post by Oti on Jun 10, 2009 12:29:09 GMT -5
What did you max before summer, then?
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Post by Badalight on Jun 10, 2009 12:33:40 GMT -5
What did you max before summer, then? I don't quite remember. Besides, my coach made us do the butt to the floor technique so it'd be considerably lower than your definition. If I did it that way I could probably lift a considerable more amount of weight.
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Post by Oti on Jun 10, 2009 15:39:42 GMT -5
I can't help but feel like you're dancing around this question because you think it will prove that your legs aren't that strong.
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Post by Badalight on Jun 10, 2009 18:11:05 GMT -5
If I had weights at my house I'd tell you. But since I don't I really can't do that now can I? And sicne your way is different than the way my gym coach made me do it my max would seem incredibly low. I have another weight class next year with a different coach. I can give you a better answer once that time comes.
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Post by Oti on Jun 10, 2009 18:54:47 GMT -5
You actually said you do it both ways, so you don't need to give me the Olympic squat weight.
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Post by Badalight on Jun 11, 2009 12:19:02 GMT -5
You actually said you do it both ways, so you don't need to give me the Olympic squat weight. Yeah, here's the thing. First semester my coach made me do it your way, after semester ended I got a new coach that made me do it the other way.
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