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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Feb 22, 2019 17:50:36 GMT -5
Officially announced today via TODAY.
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Post by Messup434 on Feb 22, 2019 20:31:40 GMT -5
Oh dear. CANCEL. CANCEL. CANCEL. Okay, sorry for my lack of enthusiasm, but I do feel like this(/whatever other racing show they come up with in two year's time) will be a cause of ANW's eventual downfall. This timing isn't exactly accurate but the main show's ratings have been declining for the past couple of years, and started around a year after Team was introduced to the mix. I would assume this is because people were so hyped-up about Ninja and excited for a new show in 2016 that ratings held themselves up (at least generally speaking), but by 2017 people were a bit worn-out by it all (especially with both TNW's season and NBC's season running for more episodes than the previous year. So, at this point, I would just cut the junk and focus on fielding all criticism they get on the main show, continuing (and improving) the Vegas specials (perhaps add a third special or just replace USA vs. The World with a completely new concept) and trying to last a while longer. If they put their energy into creating the best Summer seasons they can (rather than constantly producing spinoffs that really detract from ANW itself and kill the excitement of a new regular episode) the show could run and run. If not, no doubt it will be cancelled after the 13th season  That said, I wish everyone the best of luck and hope we get someone on this board to our TV screens! |
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Post by sackeshi on Feb 23, 2019 18:13:51 GMT -5
I feel it's more a problem of trying to make it to much about the lights and visual then the action. It's killing its self not the spin offs. ANW Jr brings back the action to the main focus.
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Feb 24, 2019 17:16:03 GMT -5
Definitely agree. No big fluff pieces AND more time on the course. I still would rather it be a regular season with a team special, but the audience is supposed to be a bunch of kids with shorter attention spans. The repetition won't kill them.
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Post by 2D2Will on Mar 3, 2019 15:00:19 GMT -5
ANW Jr officially more successful than Ninja vs Ninja.
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Post by kunnai56 on Mar 10, 2019 11:32:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not too keen on this. It feels like a serious case of audience burn is occurring with ANW, and viewers are getting tired of the constant bombardment of ANW. They really need to fix their pacing and timeslots.
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Post by trendingupwards on Mar 13, 2019 12:44:58 GMT -5
And here is where all the people who claim "CANCEL, CANCEL, CANCEL" are wrong.... I have a 7 year old daughter who absolutely loves this show, so much so that her birthday party this year is Ninja Warrior themed and she has requested to take rock climbing classes and gymnastics glasses as the ninja warrior classes near us are not close enough to get to after-school. Children love these shows and its on a children's network it does not affect ANW. If it gets young children motivated to get active than shows like this are a positive impact. So cool off on your cancel speech especially if you don't have children.
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Post by Messup434 on Mar 13, 2019 23:52:32 GMT -5
And here is where all the people who claim "CANCEL, CANCEL, CANCEL" are wrong.... Well.. I said that didn't I? lol. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be negative for the sake of being negative though, I promise! I just love American Ninja Warrior and want it to run and run - but the ratings are making that difficult since around season seven when they started adding spin-offs between regular seasons. I only want to remove Junior because it takes away from the main show, and makes it less special. It's annoying when someone just says "I hope this show ends," but if it's for the cause of a sister-show, I don't mind speaking the truth about it haha. I was inspired to try some of the Ninja stuff because of American Ninja Warrior. I wouldn't be inspired by that Summer fair-looking spin-off course, but when I was seven years old, I would've loved that course - obviously! Well I don't have children, but I still am a child, if that counts  . Got into the show during season four and have been hooked since. So yeah, completely understand that the show has a positive impact. Well, at least the original one  . Good luck to your daughter, I'm sure she'll be one to watch next(?) season if she makes it on! |
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Post by kunnai56 on Mar 15, 2019 18:02:59 GMT -5
And here is where all the people who claim "CANCEL, CANCEL, CANCEL" are wrong.... I have a 7 year old daughter who absolutely loves this show, so much so that her birthday party this year is Ninja Warrior themed and she has requested to take rock climbing classes and gymnastics glasses as the ninja warrior classes near us are not close enough to get to after-school. Children love these shows and its on a children's network it does not affect ANW. If it gets young children motivated to get active than shows like this are a positive impact. So cool off on your cancel speech especially if you don't have children. Oh don't get me wrong, I absolutely love ANW. As an adolescent myself, it has encouraged me to get in shape and work on my fitness, and I understand that kids love the show and look up to the athletes as very positive role models. But I'm concerned that ANW is pacing and structuring their shows so poorly that in 2-5 years, they may not be anymore ANW, let alone a junior spinoff, and that would be devastating to me and a lot of people and kids out there. I think the idea has merit, but some filler needs to be cleaned out to make space. Something has to give. |
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Jul 16, 2019 20:12:59 GMT -5
Filming begun today
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Post by Messup434 on Dec 2, 2019 9:09:47 GMT -5
I'm still not happy!!
It's so frustrating because the new obstacles they have added (Block Run and Flying Squirrel) look really good! The problem is that by week 16 (or, more precisely, week 3), we'll be so sick of seeing them. Actually, some of us are already sick of Block Run, and by the end of this season it'll probably have had 24 appearances overall. Wow.
Again, I'm trying to be positive, and this could be good. It's just a bit annoying that a Ninja show I can't really like may cause eventual demise to the main show.
On the positive, great to see more of the ninja kids I follow on Instagram getting an attempt at the course!
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Post by tyler on Dec 2, 2019 15:46:30 GMT -5
I think the fact is that ANW Jr is not made for us on here (unless you are a kid yourself). It's meant to be a kid show while the main show is an adult show that some kids like.
My biggest criticism of season 1 was that many competitors were so much better than the course. You really didn't see how hard some of them can be pushed. But again, it's a show for kids and not for a person in their mid-20's. I'll likely tune in for the semis and finals which I'm guessing is the last 5.
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Post by Messup434 on Dec 3, 2019 0:51:45 GMT -5
I think the fact is that ANW Jr is not made for us on here (unless you are a kid yourself). It's meant to be a kid show while the main show is an adult show that some kids like. My biggest criticism of season 1 was that many competitors were so much better than the course. You really didn't see how hard some of them can be pushed. But again, it's a show for kids and not for a person in their mid-20's. I'll likely tune in for the semis and finals which I'm guessing is the last 5. I know, it's hard to make the course difficult enough for the top-tier, but not too hard for the rest (which is more true with kids than on the main show). The trouble is, I know young people who can do 14-foot laches (which is just incredible), but there are also some very impressive kids who are at 7/8-foot laches. So the question is how to challenge the best, but give some kind of fighting chance to the others. Possibly with more obstacle variation..? I do think it would be more interesting to have more competitors falling into the water, and some obstacles can be made harder. I think it might be more fun to have a mini kids tournament in the style of regular ANW than in the side-by-side race style. |
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Post by penguincatfish on Jan 12, 2020 22:39:31 GMT -5
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Post by Messup434 on Jan 13, 2020 6:38:30 GMT -5
It may be discussed to death, and some may think I make too fine a point of it, but it's so sad to see how the course is always the same.
Aside from preventing me from watching, it's pretty much an insult to the kids. I'm not even saying they need to add anything more, buy just have all the kids in the same episode play the same obstacles. That'd also be cool, rather than separating by age group, because the younger groups will be more challenged than they're being right now. This is Ninja after all, and they dug the water pits for a reason! That way there are at least three different course layouts for different episodes (potentially more if they mix and match the rotatable elements) and the course isn't too easy.
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Jan 13, 2020 12:11:23 GMT -5
It may be discussed to death, and some may think I make too fine a point of it, but it's so sad to see how the course is always the same. Aside from preventing me from watching, it's pretty much an insult to the kids. I'm not even saying they need to add anything more, buy just have all the kids in the same episode play the same obstacles. That'd also be cool, rather than separating by age group, because the younger groups will be more challenged than they're being right now. This is Ninja after all, and they dug the water pits for a reason! That way there are at least three different course layouts for different episodes (potentially more if they mix and match the rotatable elements) and the course isn't too easy. Yeah the course is easier, but to be fair ANW doesn't give much glance to comps like NNL or UNAA, meaning they can't see what the kids are fully capable of yet and are still trying to figure it out. From what the teasers showed, this was a step in the right direction. As for the courses changing for age divisions, I actually see the appeal. Some of the target audience (kids) might have trouble focusing on just one course and the shuffling courses could help keep them watching. Plus it shows the different obstacles as opposed to the same obstacles with size modifications. There's some cons still, but also some pros. |
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Post by Messup434 on Jan 13, 2020 12:18:16 GMT -5
It may be discussed to death, and some may think I make too fine a point of it, but it's so sad to see how the course is always the same. Aside from preventing me from watching, it's pretty much an insult to the kids. I'm not even saying they need to add anything more, buy just have all the kids in the same episode play the same obstacles. That'd also be cool, rather than separating by age group, because the younger groups will be more challenged than they're being right now. This is Ninja after all, and they dug the water pits for a reason! That way there are at least three different course layouts for different episodes (potentially more if they mix and match the rotatable elements) and the course isn't too easy. Yeah the course is easier, but to be fair ANW doesn't give much glance to comps like NNL or UNAA, meaning they can't see what the kids are fully capable of yet and are still trying to figure it out. From what the teasers showed, this was a step in the right direction. As for the courses changing for age divisions, I actually see the appeal. Some of the target audience (kids) might have trouble focusing on just one course and the shuffling courses could help keep them watching. Plus it shows the different obstacles as opposed to the same obstacles with size modifications. There's some cons still, but also some pros. They need to get a better guage IMO. I will say the problem is there are about 50 kids who are amazingly good at Ninja (some of which aren't even competing in ANW Jr.), then there are a bunch of good but not amazing kids competing as well. Given that, maybe tighten the field up? I'm not saying don't let people who aren't in the top-tier compete, but if they got the best kids we'd actually see some cool stuff. I can deal with the same course for an episode. When it doesn't hold my attention is when every episode is the same as the last. Maybe that's just me. ANW is (obviously) one of my favorite shows, but elements of it bug me so much. These come into light from this Junior version - it's so dumbed-down. It's not like comparing MasterChef to its Jr. version. Both versions of that always offer something new. Most Junior shows are quite good to watch. No idea why ANW is different. I know I seem difficult on this thread, but this issue is really awful. |
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Jan 13, 2020 17:31:18 GMT -5
Yeah the course is easier, but to be fair ANW doesn't give much glance to comps like NNL or UNAA, meaning they can't see what the kids are fully capable of yet and are still trying to figure it out. From what the teasers showed, this was a step in the right direction. As for the courses changing for age divisions, I actually see the appeal. Some of the target audience (kids) might have trouble focusing on just one course and the shuffling courses could help keep them watching. Plus it shows the different obstacles as opposed to the same obstacles with size modifications. There's some cons still, but also some pros. They need to get a better guage IMO. I will say the problem is there are about 50 kids who are amazingly good at Ninja (some of which aren't even competing in ANW Jr.), then there are a bunch of good but not amazing kids competing as well. Given that, maybe tighten the field up? I'm not saying don't let people who aren't in the top-tier compete, but if they got the best kids we'd actually see some cool stuff. I can deal with the same course for an episode. When it doesn't hold my attention is when every episode is the same as the last. Maybe that's just me. ANW is (obviously) one of my favorite shows, but elements of it bug me so much. These come into light from this Junior version - it's so dumbed-down. It's not like comparing MasterChef to its Jr. version. Both versions of that always offer something new. Most Junior shows are quite good to watch. No idea why ANW is different. I know I seem difficult on this thread, but this issue is really awful. They definitely need a better gauge of what these kids are capable of. They're portraying with these new obstacles that the kids can handle the same obstacles the adults run (Block Run, Flying Squirrel, Wingnuts, etc.) but the scaling of the course itself is just kinda okay. It's easy for people our age to watch an hour or 2 of the same course, but considering this is geared towards kids with much shorter attention spans, they shuffle courses. Long story short, we aren't the target demographic. I, like many others, think ANW Jr. would be better as a regular season and not just a NvN type of thing, but that's roughly my only issue. Other than that, it's literally NvN for kids and there's not much difference. Also, because they made it to where the kids race each other, they have to dumb the course down. They even did that for the adults in a way. They don't want people to fail the same obstacle frequently; they want a photo-finish up the Warped Wall. |
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Post by penguincatfish on Mar 14, 2020 22:36:34 GMT -5
Starting next week, the show will be moving to Fridays at 6/5c.
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Post by KinnikuBanzukeÜberAlles on Mar 16, 2020 0:00:06 GMT -5
If it's a permanent move, then it might be a bad sign regarding its ratings. Networks usually only move shows when they're not performing well. ---- After a search, I found an article from June 19, 2019, stating that "Universal Kids is shifting its programming strategy and will no longer make original content." kidscreen.com/2019/06/19/universal-kids-halts-original-programming/ |
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. Got into the show during season four and have been hooked since.
. Good luck to your daughter, I'm sure she'll be one to watch next(?) season if she makes it on!