I don't get why.......

[TCM]

......some are/were mad about how the gliding ring lived up to its name in 22, yet probably wasn't mad about the circle slider, or even mad that it was gone after 17.

What gives? They're esentially the same (use momentum to help push ring foward and jump off as efficiently as possible). I know, one was first stage and the other third, but .

[supernovamaniac]

Some were mad about the gliding ring lived up to its name in 22 because it is much easier than pipe slider.

Honestly, to me, I thought gliding ring in 21 was supposed to be the real version of the thing, where it was harder to 'glide' the ring down since it was on a single track, and there was a stopper that would help you if you got past that point.

In 22, it was piece of cake. Just glide down, have right timing to jump off. That's it. Period. I like the 'Son of Pipe Slider from Hell' idea better.

Circle Slider is stage 1 obstacle, which is supposed to be easy. We are mad about Gliding Ring and not Circle Slider because they are almost same, with almost same difficulty. To end the stage 3 with SASUKE 22's Gliding Ring is just giving them a free shot at final stage.

[Oti]

The Circle Slider was stage one and wasn't supposed to be that hard.

The Gliding Ring was the last obstacle in the third stage. It was supposed to be incredibly hard.

[TCM]

Here's the thing, gliding means move smoothly and effortlessly. That's what the obstacle did. The name implied exactly what it meant. I thought though that it was one shot or fail that's why it was called that, but Yuuji took the clever way and built just a bit more momentum to confirm he was going to final. But didn't everyone want to see a final stage run no matter who it was (though Nagano and Takeda were the favorites to do so). The ring made it possible, especially after 21 was a obstacle error.

[obakemono]

21 was definitely an error, but I'm not sure how they could have messed it up that badly, especially considering they got it right with the Circle Slider in 17 with what was a much bigger ring. They may not have originally intended it to properly glide as it did in 22, but there's nothing to indicate that.

[TCM]

They pulled it off in 17 because you had to jump for the ring and the ring was bigger, but skinner, making going down easier, not to mention the decline was steeper. This one, the decline is shorter, almost nonexistant and the ring is smaller, but thicker.

[supernovamaniac]

It was one shot when it was Final Ring.

Gliding Ring added a stopper that would help the people to build up momentum.

How is the decline almost nonexistent? You can clearly see that it declines, even from the ground. I say its about at least a meter decline.

And also, if its nonexistant, your agrument is not valid anymore. How can a gliding 'glide' if there is no decline? It would feel more like the one in SASUKE 21, not the one in SASUKE 22.

I still say that if the producers leave gliding ring as it is fron SASUKE 22, add something like Devil's Swing right before it so that you can't just 'push off' from the resting bar.

[RiderLeangle]

I say if they want to make it like that, Take out the green bar, make you go straight onto the Gliding Ring from the Spider Flip.

[Oti]

I agree with Rider. We wanted to see a Final Stage attempt, but from people who deserve it. I have nothing against the guy that made it there, but I'm disappointed that the "hardest" obstacle course in the world has ridiculous things like that in it - and in stage THREE.

[SuperTiger]

Just change it back to the Final Ring instead of the Gliding Ring, looks harder to me.

[Oti]

Definitely. The size of the ring makes it awkward to walk down the track and by the time you're there, you're probably tired.

I actually miss the Pipe Slider. It was getting old but man, it was a good idea.

[bigblind168]

May 3, 2009 14:43:36 GMT -5 Oti said:

Definitely. The size of the ring makes it awkward to walk down the track and by the time you're there, you're probably tired.

I actually miss the Pipe Slider. It was getting old but man, it was a good idea.

Yeah, or something of that nature. I mean only one man did master the pipe slider w.o it moving back, Asaoka. I mean hell, even Nagano had some pipe slider problems in 17!

Anyway, the Final Ring in 21 (it was the final ring cuz it didnt glide and the announcer said so) was much harder and in ways i like it and in ways i dont. But it depends how the obstacle was thought to be done, was it supose to be a one and ur done thing, or like how Yuuji did it? Build momentum or not?

[TCM]

May 3, 2009 14:54:19 GMT -5 bigblind168 said:

May 3, 2009 14:43:36 GMT -5 Oti said:

Definitely. The size of the ring makes it awkward to walk down the track and by the time you're there, you're probably tired.

I actually miss the Pipe Slider. It was getting old but man, it was a good idea.

Yeah, or something of that nature. I mean only one man did master the pipe slider w.o it moving back, Asaoka. I mean hell, even Nagano had some pipe slider problems in 17!

Anyway, the Final Ring in 21 (it was the final ring cuz it didnt glide and the announcer said so) was much harder and in ways i like it and in ways i dont. But it depends how the obstacle was thought to be done, was it supose to be a one and ur done thing, or like how Yuuji did it? Build momentum or not?

Almost 98% sure it was swing down, swing up, jump and pray. But they added a stopper which caused the momentum needed. I say get rid of the stopper, that way, it'll be one chance or just drop, that's what it needs to be harder.

[SRW]

May 3, 2009 14:25:40 GMT -5 SuperTiger said:

Just change it back to the Final Ring instead of the Gliding Ring, looks harder to me.

Firstly that FINAL RING IS IDENTICAL to the Gliding ring and the stopper IS THERE ive watched it on TV HQ zoomed in paused up close it IS THERE so there is no difference.

To be honest the way the gliding ring worked in 21 they should have kept the final ring name because the obstacle clearly did anything but glide.

But then again remember 21 was a accident, the ring regardless of the name was supposed to slide down the track go over the notch - build up a swing and jump, it was never supposed to barely move at all and was mean't to be different to the pipe slider.

The pipe slider got boring by 17 it had to go and I have no problem with the ring, now say it was SUPPOSED to work like in 21 and no one could do it over few tournys and they blatently made it easy then id not be impressed.

Whoever said they called it the final ring in 21 they did not on the names thing in the stage 3 intro, go check out Ubes stage 3 pics from sasuke 20 and 21 it is clearly called Gliding in 21 the announcer even says it.

And lastly I agree make it so you have to go straight onto the ring from the spider flip!

(PS) lol, whoever said Yuuji did not deserve to get to the final stage? How can you say that he just owned the stages and he has no control over what tweaks the designers want to make - he just took everything as it came.

[SuperTiger]

May 3, 2009 15:59:39 GMT -5 SRW said:

May 3, 2009 14:25:40 GMT -5 SuperTiger said:

Just change it back to the Final Ring instead of the Gliding Ring, looks harder to me.

Firstly that FINAL RING IS IDENTICAL to the Gliding ring and the stopper IS THERE ive watched it on TV HQ zoomed in paused up close it IS THERE so there is no difference.

To be honest the way the gliding ring worked in 21 they should have kept the final ring name because the obstacle clearly did anything but glide.

But then again remember 21 was a accident, the ring regardless of the name was supposed to slide down the track go over the notch - build up a swing and jump, it was never supposed to barely move at all and was mean't to be different to the pipe slider.

The pipe slider got boring by 17 it had to go and I have no problem with the ring, now say it was SUPPOSED to work like in 21 and no one could do it over few tournys and they blatently made it easy then id not be impressed.

In 18, the stopper LOOKS further away and i believe its higher than the current Gliding Ring.

www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/entertainment/watch/v450280b4R4wdZm

follow the link and go to the end where it shows the obstacles that werent attempted.

And besides something must be different, then why did they change the name?

[RiderLeangle]

Final Ring:


Gliding Ring:

[SRW]

well if there is it must be invisible because externally there is NO difference and the stopper is there!! I assure you!

[SRW]

Infact interestingly I will conceed there appears to be no stopper on it in 18 (hard to make out) and 19 seems not to be however in 20 there IS!

Off topic its funny now seeing the gfinal stage set up in the 20 pic back ground look how big the ladder rungs are and length compared to the updated one yuuji climbed lol, that steel one does look dead easy.

Back to the ring 18 and 19 cannot find footage clear enouh to fully verify it but in 20 I can say 100% the stopper IS there.

[RiderLeangle]

I think the pic I posted was of the final ring from 20, might be from 19 but I don't think so.

Kind of like how in 19 when showing stage 3 they showed the Shin Cliffhanger from 18

[SRW]

LOl They keep showing it from 18 in the stage 3 intro even now.

Your pic is from 20 and the notch is there I 110% assure you as for 18 and 19 let the debate rage on!