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Post by Zach Smith on Mar 26, 2018 13:10:44 GMT -5
I decided to do this because...because why not lol
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Post by Sierrae on Mar 26, 2018 13:27:59 GMT -5
8/10. Great editing with a lot of the top competitors run's getting shown in full, the new obstacles {Dont click if you havent watched}
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 26, 2018 13:33:13 GMT -5
Definitely no higher than a 7/10. The results and Stages 1/3/4 were good, but tainted by the rest bar, and the whole thing was bogged down by mediocre editing and too much celebrity focus.
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Post by Zach Smith on Mar 26, 2018 13:35:47 GMT -5
I'm gonna be honest right now, I prefer 32 over 35.
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Post by SRW on Mar 26, 2018 14:05:53 GMT -5
8 out of 10 I don't care about editing really as long as they show the important runs in full.
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Post by krmikulitsi on Mar 26, 2018 14:08:20 GMT -5
Gave 9/10 but then remembered that there was that rest bar and straight away stage 3 clear so 7/10
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Post by wolf4537 on Mar 26, 2018 14:20:07 GMT -5
Solid 8 out of 10. Had a lot of exciting moments, but a lot of pretty disappointing moments too. {Spoiler}It was awesome getting to see the final stage attempted for the first time since 2015, but holy crap that is going to be hard to achieve Kanzenseiha on altogether unless they nerf it if you ask me. (Which I don't see a nerf happening, but who knows) |
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Post by thatoneuser on Mar 26, 2018 14:22:03 GMT -5
the whole thing was bogged down by mediocre editing and too much celebrity focus. That was the best edited tournament in years and the only reason this show is still alive is because of people tuning in for the celebrities. Some people are impossible to please... |
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 26, 2018 14:56:03 GMT -5
Not to mention this tournament had the most focus on non-celebrities in about 5 shows. Bios for tons of average joes/classic competitors. And the celebs we have aren't even taking advantage of the show, they train and are invested in it. Lots of people like them. Regardless they had the least amount of spot light shined on them ever in this tournament. Editing is partially subjective, but I thought it had a more classic Sasuke feel to it all around. Good tournament, 8/10.
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Post by TCM on Mar 26, 2018 15:02:13 GMT -5
I'd say a solid 8/10. Best tournament since 31, IMO. I don't have a clue how this tournament's editing was "mediocre" in the slightest. Virtually every fan-favorite got shown, the only digested clear was an automatic Drew Stage 2 run, and we've had the best results since Yusuke's win.
Given the fact the only people to attempt the VLK are the only people to even make the first UCCH transition, and still only one person even successfully made the first transition of that obstacle, people whining about the green bar are just talking mess. Just look at everyone's reactions on the course -- no one gives a damn that bar is there, because the 3rd Stage is still demon levels of hard. The best competitor in Japan right now can only get 20 meters up the Final Stage tower. If he fails early, no one's getting close. I am more than fine with giving people a chance to make the tournament interesting.
And please stop scapegoating the celebs as if they haven't already proven they train for the show and seek to get better. Do you really think them interacting with the veterans is for the cameras? Don't delude yourself into damning someone on the show just because they're famous in spite of their demonstrably proven work.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 26, 2018 15:03:24 GMT -5
They really need to start taping before getting the time space because holy s*** this just dragged on... 4 hours for a tournament that didn't need it so all the jobbers get shown and it just dragged on...
And stage 2 was stage 2 now it's ugly to go with the boredom... great...
Stage 3 and the final were good but considering that was the minority of the show didn't save it.
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 26, 2018 15:25:15 GMT -5
I'd say a solid 8/10. Best tournament since 31, IMO. I don't have a clue how this tournament's editing was "mediocre" in the slightest. Virtually every fan-favorite got shown, the only digested clear was an automatic Drew Stage 2 run, and we've had the best results since Yusuke's win. Given the fact the only people to attempt the VLK are the only people to even make the first UCCH transition, and still only one person even successfully made the first transition of that obstacle, people whining about the green bar are just talking mess. Just look at everyone's reactions on the course -- no one gives a damn that bar is there, because the 3rd Stage is still demon levels of hard. The best competitor in Japan right now can only get 20 meters up the Final Stage tower. If he fails early, no one's getting close. I am more than fine with giving people a chance to make the tournament interesting. And please stop scapegoating the celebs as if they haven't already proven they train for the show and seek to get better. Do you really think them interacting with the veterans is for the cameras? Don't delude yourself into damning someone on the show just because they're famous in spite of their demonstrably proven work. They put in work, but it doesn't change the fact that for the first hour-90 minutes of the broadcast, they were almost exclusively the only people cut to for reactions both during and after runs. We want to see the relationships between ALL the competitors, not just whoever is running and Darvish/Takeru, and it is delusional to think that them being paid to be there doesn't contribute at all to their lion's share of screentime. Tons of competitors do better than them in almost every tournament, and they don't get cut to during every run. Just because people didn't get cut, doesn't mean the editing is flawless. There were very real flaws present and to ignore them just because of a few good results is counterproductive when discussing the show. Sorry TCM, but I strongly disagree here. |
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 26, 2018 15:27:15 GMT -5
They really need to start taping before getting the time space because holy s*** this just dragged on... 4 hours for a tournament that didn't need it so all the jobbers get shown and it just dragged on... And stage 2 was stage 2 now it's ugly to go with the boredom... great... Stage 3 and the final were good but considering that was the minority of the show didn't save it. Wait, so you WANTED people like Kanno, Ryo, Kenji etc... to get fast forwarded? |
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 26, 2018 15:30:39 GMT -5
Not to mention this tournament had the most focus on non-celebrities in about 5 shows. Bios for tons of average joes/classic competitors. And the celebs we have aren't even taking advantage of the show, they train and are invested in it. Lots of people like them. Regardless they had the least amount of spot light shined on them ever in this tournament. Editing is partially subjective, but I thought it had a more classic Sasuke feel to it all around. Good tournament, 8/10. I would argue that the increased amount of runs of non-celebs shown was simply a consequence of the shorter course and extra broadcast time of one hour. IMO, the actual proportion of time given to them didn't increase, there was just more time to show more runs. The celebs were still a large part of the broadcast the whole way through. |
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 26, 2018 15:32:44 GMT -5
They really need to start taping before getting the time space because holy s*** this just dragged on... 4 hours for a tournament that didn't need it so all the jobbers get shown and it just dragged on... And stage 2 was stage 2 now it's ugly to go with the boredom... great... Stage 3 and the final were good but considering that was the minority of the show didn't save it. Wait, so you WANTED people like Kanno, Ryo, Kenji etc... to get fast forwarded? When did I say anything about them? I mean all those jobbers no one has heard of who don't even make it half way or can't even get the Dragon Glider bar in the first place, they could have easily just been FF or all cut... |
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 26, 2018 15:39:51 GMT -5
Wait, so you WANTED people like Kanno, Ryo, Kenji etc... to get fast forwarded? When did I say anything about them? I mean all those jobbers no one has heard of who don't even make it half way or can't even get the Dragon Glider bar in the first place, they could have easily just been FF or all cut... There have to be SOME nobodies shown, otherwise it just isn't Sasuke. |
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Post by Messup434 on Mar 26, 2018 15:51:34 GMT -5
7/10. I loved that they had NEW OBSTACLES. i think this is always an important factor to me and it helped that both of them were brilliant (with a couple tweaks possibly necessary which I’ll get to)! It was exciting ending Stage One with the Wall, much better than the Lumberjack Climb as I began to tire of it. I’d say keep it last until the next Total Victory (hopefully that’s not for a few tournaments.
There was a ton of stuff I loved about it. All I didn’t love as that:
-Stage One and Stage Two both had color-schemes I wasn’t big on. Sure it’s not the most important thing but these two combined are enough to subtract a point
-I didn’t love the break being added to the Cliffhanger. I also think the Dragon Glider was a bit problematic in that people could do everything right but still not have great momentum to reach the second bar (heck, it almost get Drew!). I think the moving of the Planet Bridge’s foot Wallis a bit unnecessary. The second two are small things but I’ve subtracted a point factoring in the Cliffhanger rest.
-Still didn’t love the editing. Not the worst but still not the best. Subtract a third point.
I did love the tournament, though (I see 7/10 for this to be pretty good FYI).
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 26, 2018 16:03:54 GMT -5
When did I say anything about them? I mean all those jobbers no one has heard of who don't even make it half way or can't even get the Dragon Glider bar in the first place, they could have easily just been FF or all cut... There have to be SOME nobodies shown, otherwise it just isn't Sasuke. Yes you have to show some of them, you don't need to show most of them however... |
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Mar 26, 2018 16:09:56 GMT -5
There have to be SOME nobodies shown, otherwise it just isn't Sasuke. Yes you have to show some of them, you don't need to show most of them however...  There we probably less than ten shown. Then we got the Black Tigers, celebs and the rest of the mainstays. |
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Post by TCM on Mar 26, 2018 16:44:02 GMT -5
I'd say a solid 8/10. Best tournament since 31, IMO. I don't have a clue how this tournament's editing was "mediocre" in the slightest. Virtually every fan-favorite got shown, the only digested clear was an automatic Drew Stage 2 run, and we've had the best results since Yusuke's win. Given the fact the only people to attempt the VLK are the only people to even make the first UCCH transition, and still only one person even successfully made the first transition of that obstacle, people whining about the green bar are just talking mess. Just look at everyone's reactions on the course -- no one gives a damn that bar is there, because the 3rd Stage is still demon levels of hard. The best competitor in Japan right now can only get 20 meters up the Final Stage tower. If he fails early, no one's getting close. I am more than fine with giving people a chance to make the tournament interesting. And please stop scapegoating the celebs as if they haven't already proven they train for the show and seek to get better. Do you really think them interacting with the veterans is for the cameras? Don't delude yourself into damning someone on the show just because they're famous in spite of their demonstrably proven work. They put in work, but it doesn't change the fact that for the first hour-90 minutes of the broadcast, they were almost exclusively the only people cut to for reactions both during and after runs. We want to see the relationships between ALL the competitors, not just whoever is running and Darvish/Takeru, and it is delusional to think that them being paid to be there doesn't contribute at all to their lion's share of screentime. Tons of competitors do better than them in almost every tournament, and they don't get cut to during every run. Just because people didn't get cut, doesn't mean the editing is flawless. There were very real flaws present and to ignore them just because of a few good results is counterproductive when discussing the show. Sorry TCM, but I strongly disagree here. I watched the tournament too, they showed family reactions and competitor reactions. Yes, that includes the celebrities who are competing. But do not be so reductive as to forget either moments like Nagano coaching Takasu, Yuuji getting emotional at Ryo's run, Tomo getting emotional at Kanno's run. Hioki was shown as much as anyone outside of his run. Tomo and Yusuke kept gushing over Drew. When Drew joked about the 1st Stage being easy, they were no where in sight. You know why there was a random shot of Darvish after Suzuki's fail? Because he 96 while Suzuki was 94, so he was almost next. Tsukada and Iwamoto hang around Hioki and Yuuji because they train together. Yuuji even shouted out Tsukada in his own fluff piece because they've cultivated a relationship. Yeah, their name value is gonna get a reaction shown from them during important/funny/sad moments. My overall point being celeb contestants being shown throughout a tournament is nothing new. The only thing roughly different is the fact they stay longer because they have actual relationships/are friendlier with the veteran competitors than the celebs who show up, fail Stage 1 and leave the taping because their job is done. I much rather prefer these celebs who actually try and care about the show they're on. And just in general, I'm not so hung up on them to need to laser pinpoint every time they're shown reacting because it's not how I watch the show and don't get so easily rattled by something like that. I didn't say the editing was flawless, please tell me how I'm being counterproductive because showing results of people who have been routinely digested is a marked improvement when people always mention hating how x y and z competitor were digested and should have had their run shown. We aren't gonna see Shingo, Takeda, Yuuji or Ryo shown much when they aren't clearing. People have always gotten fluff pieces despite not clearing Stage 1, regardless of status. There is no one that I can think of cut or digested that I was disappointed to not have seen, other than Tada and between showing his fail and Yusuke consoling him in the Navi, that's as good as we'll get until he's fortunate enough to clear. I understand that some favorites aren't focused on, but like I said before it's because they're not doing as well. |
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