DeAndre
Ragivaru Anastase
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Post by DeAndre on Feb 17, 2019 6:16:39 GMT -5
I haven't watched it all but so far, it feels bad bro. The only highlight was Lucas Gomez finally breaking out and showing everyone what he was capable of, but it looks like the eliminating obstacles are coming wayyy too early nowadays, which is becoming a problem. I mean you guys talk about Wingnuts on Stage Two all the time, this is really no different except an entire stage earlier....
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Post by TCM on Feb 17, 2019 12:03:35 GMT -5
Short, personal opinion: There were some great, dramatic runs (and @philip casually making a new strategy for an obstacle over 100 failed), but that Stage 1 was overkill regarding its difficulty. There is no way so many good people could go out like that if the stage was way more balanced. I don't fault Drew for any of his explanations he may have; I know he's probably as shocked as everyone regarding the results -- but I want to know his expected clear rate, because I know 7 out of 332 wasn't it.
Anyway, Pros Stage 1 has ended -- Stages 2 and 3 (if reached) will be on Monday.
Out of 332 attempts (plus a few re-runs), only 7 cleared Stage 1 and will be moving on to Stage 2:
Stage 1 course: 1. Swivel Steps 2. Jigsaw 3. Monstro Swing 4. You Know What This Is (A Great Wall-esque obstacle where the dismount platform was off to the side) 5. NNL Glider 6. Shape Escape 7. Glass Spider (Spider Walk to the buzzer) 110 seconds (1:50)
Wave 1: None
Wave 2: None
Wave 3: Andrew Horner
Wave 4: Jesse Lucero, Flip Rodriguez
Wave 5: Adam Rayl, Caleb Bergstrom*
Re-run clears: Matt Strollo, Karson Voiles
*Under review
Leaderboard looks like this: Flip Rodriguez
Adam Rayl
Karson Voiles
Matt Strollo
Caleb Bergstrom*
Jesse Lucero
Andrew Horner
So reverse order will run for Stage 2 (Horner first; Flip last)
None of the women cleared the third obstacle, so they had to be separated by who was the fastest to defeat the second obstacle, Jigsaw: Women's Top 7: Jesse Labreck (1st Place -- NNL Pro Women's Champion)
Casey Rothschild (2nd Place)
Tegan Roobol (3rd Place)
Taylor Johnson (4th Place)
Barclay Stockett (5th Place)
Allyssa Beird
Mia Lazarewicz
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Post by TCM on Feb 17, 2019 15:30:12 GMT -5
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Feb 17, 2019 15:37:58 GMT -5
RIP almost all of my guessing game predictions
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Feb 17, 2019 18:00:37 GMT -5
Short, personal opinion: There were some great, dramatic runs (and @philip casually making a new strategy for an obstacle over 100 failed), but that Stage 1 was overkill regarding its difficulty. There is no way so many good people could go out like that if the stage was way more balanced. I don't fault Drew for any of his explanations he may have; I know he's probably as shocked as everyone regarding the results -- but I want to know his expected clear rate, because I know 7 out of 332 wasn't it. That run gave me LIFE lol definitely something I'd try if I was his height.
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Post by Kane-Not-Kosugi on Feb 18, 2019 21:33:50 GMT -5
Okay so Stage 2 seems to be something so many people get wrong.
ANW does too much
Sasuke does too little
A lot of the spinoffs either make Stage 2 too easy or overkill
Drew just decided to throw together any obstacles he wanted. It was BASICALLY a timed Stage 3. Much more doable than Stage 1, which is a major bummer considering we lost so many great athletes on Stage 1. I won't spoil who won, but it was well deserved. The winner made Stage 2 look easy and made Stage 3 look like a playground.
But I still hate En Garde
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Post by Messup434 on Feb 19, 2019 6:43:55 GMT -5
Okay, I have gone back to see what I missed and I agree that season three Finals were a lot better. Not just the obstacles, that course just looked more impressive, had better angles and had a nice color-scheme than this flaming red monster edition lol. Also, it's weird how a person like Drew put together any type of slow course, particularly one where it often felt like people we're going backwards (Swivel Steps). And knowing how Drew is so, so knowledgeable about obstacles and likes math and statistics and all, it's so weird how he messed-up on the First Stage. I still like it, but I like it less now lol.
Stage Two did seem a lot easier which felt really weird. What were they reacting to when Adam Rayl was about to take-on the Fly Wheels?! I saw him hopping on the mat, but couldn't see what was happening from my camera angle, so I'm curious! The Angle Ladder workaround was amazing the first time, not so great when Flip did it (no offense to him, just because he was the last to try that). It's weird having the same skeleton to the course for the first two stages, but it worked better than I'd have thought. But Devil Books are Stage Three material.
Stage Three felt good! Okay, the En Garde thing may be a bit difficult (and sketchy), but it definitely felt like the most appropriate stage there was! But as the commentators said, like both other stages, so strange to see a classic obstacle in a different stage than usual. The Planet Eleven obstacle looked really cool on the Nature Kids wave, just wish we saw it in real practice for Rayl's run. That's a worthy Salmon Ladder follow-up/Time Bomb replacement for the real show!
The commentary was great throughout, props to whoever did it.
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DeAndre
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Post by DeAndre on Feb 21, 2019 19:46:14 GMT -5
Honestly, I liked the Monstro Swing and the Swivel Steps but in especially the latter, they were really poorly placed. I like the idea of sticking with the Monstros in Stage 1 Pos 3 but the Steps need to go.
I loved everything past the second obstacle on Stage 2; Angle Ladder was amazing, great name, great design, I really loved it. Perilous Pipes was also really neat in design, and I loved the corner of chaos thing they had going on but on Stage 2. A different 4th on Stage 2 ig. The Lord of the Rings was also pretty sick.
I like En Garde but the design of it being a ladder is a bit awkward; it's new and kinda cool looking but it looks like the bar would've just tumbled off any second. Stage Three was also good but not as good as Stage 2.
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pagar
Torisawa Katsuhide
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Post by pagar on Feb 22, 2019 11:42:53 GMT -5
For me the first stage isn't for the course designers to show how clever and original they are, save that for stages 2 & 3. The first stage should be for the athletes (who really also are the customers) to get to show their skills on things they've actually practiced.
Have the first stage be familiar obstacles of various difficulty levels with a somewhat tight time limit. People who fail will go home thinking "if only" and vowing to come back stronger next year, instead of failing something they've never tried before and leaving thinking "what the hell is the point".
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Post by Messup434 on Feb 22, 2019 22:46:55 GMT -5
For me the first stage isn't for the course designers to show how clever and original they are, save that for stages 2 & 3. The first stage should be for the athletes (who really also are the customers) to get to show their skills on things they've actually practiced. Have the first stage be familiar obstacles of various difficulty levels with a somewhat tight time limit. People who fail will go home thinking "if only" and vowing to come back stronger next year, instead of failing something they've never tried before and leaving thinking "what the hell is the point". I agree with the bulk of this, but I really wouldn't want them to introduce any crazy ideas in Stage Two. Originally, Stage Two was made to be a stage where the course itself isn't hugely challenging, but, with the time-limit, still difficult to complete. If they introduce any crazy new ideas (Double Wedge, Wingnut Alley), this'll mean that the time-limit is made higher and take away the speed element (...Double Wedge, Wingnut Alley ). I don't mind the occasional stray from the norm, but I tend to prefer it when the time-limit is the real star of the Second Stage. PS: Did you mean to call yourself "pagar" because that is the Spanish translation for "To pay"? Just curious hahaha!
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pagar
Torisawa Katsuhide
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Post by pagar on Feb 23, 2019 14:17:09 GMT -5
PS: Did you mean to call yourself "pagar" because that is the Spanish translation for "To pay"? Just curious hahaha! It's taken from my name, don't speak Spanish at all except for the obvious phrases...
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