cobrinha
Nagasawa Hidenori
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Post by cobrinha on Feb 20, 2018 5:17:18 GMT -5
So I think stage one will be: Godantobi + Rolling hill, TIE fighter, fishbone, double dipper, tackle and warped wall
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Post by SRW on Feb 20, 2018 5:20:30 GMT -5
I don't know when that was put in anw but the double dipper looks like my double U bars from stickman SASUKE back in 2013.
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Post by roy on Feb 20, 2018 6:04:08 GMT -5
The revamped first stage could be just what Sasuke needs (obstacle-wise) after three tournaments of the same. Excited for the new tournament yet seeing all these pictures of the course and competitors, as someone who has been training for Sasuke I can't help but wish I was there...I know there are a lot of other people who want to compete who are way stronger then me but it's still killing me. I guess I need to keep training and make my application better next time.
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Post by ArbuthnotBlob on Feb 20, 2018 6:28:32 GMT -5
I'm sad Lumberjack Climb is gone, I really liked that obstacle! Overall though, I am glad to see the course get shaken up.
A shorter, faster first stage is interesting though, as it's basically been getting longer and more complicated since Shin Sasuke. This could be a return to the style of the stage all the way back in the early tournaments when Inui was first director, hopefully the faster completion time allows more competitors to be shown? I guess it'll depend on the air time assigned by TBS...
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Post by krmikulitsi on Feb 20, 2018 7:16:53 GMT -5
Wow, now I'm really hyped about stage 1, even so still disappointed that competitors like Asa and Jessie aren't competing. Also what is that 9-year old thing about Double Dipper?
Loving that stage 1 is gonna be now speed stage and not that f***ing 2 min s***
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Post by johnboy on Feb 20, 2018 7:26:23 GMT -5
this pic was posted a couple of days ago on the offical sasuke twitter feed. have a look at where the samon ladder bar is final stage
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Post by krmikulitsi on Feb 20, 2018 7:34:06 GMT -5
Yeah someone posted that picture already if I remember right and talked about that bar. But yeah mayyybe Drew or Yusuke can beat that stage 3 combo. But I still doubt it
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Post by TCM on Feb 20, 2018 8:37:47 GMT -5
Wow, now I'm really hyped about stage 1, even so still disappointed that competitors like Asa and Jessie aren't competing. Also what is that 9-year old thing about Double Dipper? Loving that stage 1 is gonna be now speed stage and not that f***ing 2 min s*** Let's chill on the swearing, but to answer your question, the Double Dipper was a winning obstacle design in ANW9's obstacle creation contest. The designer was a 9-year-old.
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Post by Mk20SSR on Feb 20, 2018 8:42:04 GMT -5
Wow. Based on what Inui said, they definitely have removed Tarzan Rope and the Lumberjack Climb completely and put the Soritatsu Kabe as the end of the First Stage. What a huge change consider the Tarzan Rope has being there for a long time, goodbye, you will be missed(?). I bet the time limit is going to get drastically reduced to at least 60 seconds (*evil laugh*). Just Kidding, it may be at least 90 seconds.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Feb 20, 2018 8:47:06 GMT -5
Pretty lame IMO. Instead of swapping easier obstacles with brand new, harder ones, they just took a cheap route and turned it into a time course like the 2nd Stage by cutting obstacles. As Usual Inui/ATS cant compete on Higuchi and M9's level
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Post by krmikulitsi on Feb 20, 2018 8:59:09 GMT -5
Wow, now I'm really hyped about stage 1, even so still disappointed that competitors like Asa and Jessie aren't competing. Also what is that 9-year old thing about Double Dipper? Loving that stage 1 is gonna be now speed stage and not that f***ing 2 min s*** Let's chill on the swearing, but to answer your question, the Double Dipper was a winning obstacle design in ANW9's obstacle creation contest. The designer was a 9-year-old. Ok sorry for swearing, sometimes my reactions are like that, sorry. But yeah at least good that there's not gonna be that 2 min limit. I hope that stage 2 could go under 100 s.
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Post by TCM on Feb 20, 2018 9:44:02 GMT -5
My first instance, even as someone who comes across as a Sasuke-defender nowadays, makes me wary of the idea of the Wall being the last obstacle. Almost a little too ANW-like for my tastes (but hey, I'm still watching ANW, so it isn't annoying me too much). At the same time, I'm intrigued. This is the most drastic change to Stage 1 in a while. I'm all for fast Stage 1 runs because hypothetically, if they get a good length to the show, we can see more of Stage 1. We're not in the era where you might see 2-3 new obstacles every tournament. One and done obstacles for the sake of change aren't a thing anymore.
That all said, we know Inui is a troll, and until I see that button after the Wall with nothing else, I'm taking it with a grain of salt. I would say "Show, don't tell" but he even trolls visually. It probably is a real thing but fool me once.
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Post by Mk20SSR on Feb 20, 2018 10:01:06 GMT -5
Based on this tweet, the reason the Wall became the last obstacle is probably due to space constrain because the Dragon Glider is too big (and long). It might also be the First Stage layout is like a straight line so that might be the reason why Tarzan Rope and Lumberjack Climb are removed.
Poor translations: How can I help ... Dragon glider is big (long) so Tarzan and lumber jack do not enter if it is a straight layout ... I wonder if it will be in the short area
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Post by Messup434 on Feb 20, 2018 10:56:55 GMT -5
Really like the trampoline into Double Dipper, funny to think but I don’t think we’ve seen that idea before. Didn’t realize it’s be Double, but I think it was definitely the right choice for them. It looks a lot easier when it’s closer to the ground even though that has no actual physical effect! I suppose they had it over water for real competition? Yesss this sounds like the Sasuke I fell in love with six years ago - new surprises for both viewers and competitors each tournament! Did I expect them to eliminate the Double Pendulum? Never! That is how to keep things interesting. And I really like the cutting-off the last two obstacles if that really is happening. Not only does it provide a major shake-up to the layout, it’ll likely introduce the element of speed back into the stage And I guess I was getting tired of the Lumberjack Climb anyway.
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Post by TCM on Feb 20, 2018 10:59:08 GMT -5
They always build the obstacles first, then add the water after everything has tested properly.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Feb 20, 2018 11:06:56 GMT -5
Really like the trampoline into Double Dipper, funny to think but I don’t think we’ve seen that idea before. Didn’t realize it’s be Double, but I think it was definitely the right choice for them. It looks a lot easier when it’s closer to the ground even though that has no actual physical effect! I suppose they had it over water for real competition? Yesss this sounds like the Sasuke I fell in love with six years ago - new surprises for both viewers and competitors each tournament! Did I expect them to eliminate the Double Pendulum? Never! That is how to keep things interesting. And I really like the cutting-off the last two obstacles if that really is happening. Not only does it provide a major shake-up to the layout, it’ll likely introduce the element of speed back into the stage And I guess I was getting tired of the Lumberjack Climb anyway. It looks easier because the actual gap between the two sets of rails is closer and the second set of rails is lower than in ANW. So besides the trampoline aspect, it is actually easier, and not just an illusion because it's closer to the water. Anyway, I guess it's kind of innovative, but there's a part of me that wants to argue that Inui doesn't get what used to make a mini tramp on Stage 1 tactful and deceptive. On the Jumping Spider, your jump ultimately could lead you into several different positions on the walls, which determined if you passed or not. With the Jump Hang, your jump determined if you went high or low on the net. With the Double Pendulum and Dragon Glider, you grab the bar. That's pretty much it. Yeah, how your body is aligned will affect your momentum going through the obstacle... but the trampoline kind of lacks a purpose. Maybe not... but it definitely seems less innovative. I think a springboard would make more sense. Looking back, none of Inui's trampoline based creations ever had the magnitude of the Jumping Spider. The Jump Hang Kai in retrospect was a really dumb idea. It's like somebody just threw a bunch of obstacle parts in the air and used whatever stuck. Double Pendulum was coolish the first time around, but everybody got the gist of it after 2 tournaments. The only people who failed it either messed up the trampoline (Shingo and Hioki, which were really boring fails) or rushed it, like Tomohiro. This new one I'll admit looks better, but there's just something off with these designs to me.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Feb 20, 2018 11:24:02 GMT -5
As Usual Inui/ATS cant compete on Higuchi and M9's level Despite having them talk to and share ideas with Inui, ATS has no sway on Sasuke at all, they might be getting some blame because of the Dragon Glider being modeled off the Double Dipper but they have no place in this conversation, they have their own philosophies as far as course design and have made some good obstacles and stages (Along with some really crappy ones...), I mean we can blame them for the farce that was ANW9's Stage 2 and Wingnut Alley, but yeah they have no place in this conversation. (Also ironically enough their course design ideas are closer to M9 than Inui's team lol )
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nekomi3
Kawashima Takayuki
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Post by nekomi3 on Feb 20, 2018 11:41:01 GMT -5
Maybe I am a little bit crazy now but... The gap between Sidewinder and Clifhanger is for Nail Clipper?
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Post by krmikulitsi on Feb 20, 2018 12:32:57 GMT -5
Maybe I am a little bit crazy now but... The gap between Sidewinder and Cliffhanger is for Nail Clipper? Haha, what? Why do you think its Nail Clipper? But if it is then I don't even know what to say
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Feb 20, 2018 14:03:42 GMT -5
As Usual Inui/ATS cant compete on Higuchi and M9's level Despite having them talk to and share ideas with Inui, ATS has no sway on Sasuke at all, they might be getting some blame because of the Dragon Glider being modeled off the Double Dipper but they have no place in this conversation, they have their own philosophies as far as course design and have made some good obstacles and stages (Along with some really crappy ones...), I mean we can blame them for the farce that was ANW9's Stage 2 and Wingnut Alley, but yeah they have no place in this conversation. (Also ironically enough their course design ideas are closer to M9 than Inui's team lol ) They have an indirect, rather than direct, sway on Sasuke. Some of the newer obstacles we've been seeing in Sasuke lately are derivatives of ideas inspired by ATS and Inui's teamwork, although ATS doesn't ultimately choose what goes where. The point is that it doesn't matter where Inui is getting his ideas from (likely from ATS cooperation), I find it hard to believe anybody could sincerely argue the obstacles added post M9 era are, for the most part (some like the Vertical Limit are pretty awesome), more intriguing or innovative. As for the philosophy of ATS, I think they've made some cool stuff on occassion (some of their upper body stuff, like that birdhouse obstacle in Stage 3 last year, aren't just a complete mess, like the Wall Drop from one of Philly's qualifiers), but a lot of their philosophy just relies on copying the format of M9, which is why they seem so similar. For example, the current first stage of ANW has had Sasuke 27's formatting since Vegas was a thing. Obstacles are usually just inspired by what was on that course, and fit in the formula like a puzzle piece (e.g. that metal spin-parkour run obstacle is just an overly convoluted Half Pipe Attack). But to get back on topic, when Sasuke is trying to become more like ANW (just look at the new name and the eerily similar 6 obstacle style formatting ending at a Wall), and ANW isn't known for their "best" obstacles or originality (usually just making obstacles that try to imitate M9's cool stuff0, I'm not surprised I'm personally not satisfied with the direction Sasuke has been heading recently. But to each his own
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