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Post by Matt Midoriyama on Feb 13, 2018 2:55:42 GMT -5
I loved the bootcamp episodes but I cannot see how it would fit in to this day and age. The only way I could see it working is a European bootcamp with 20+ competitors competing for 10 Vegas spots.
It could be done, in Germany perhaps who have the best spin-off courses, peoduction team and show popularity. There would be enough Euro tv stations to make it viable and enough Euro ninjas of a good enough standard to add something to ANW finals.
But that is never gonna happen so perhaps we should just look back fondly at boot camp and see how far some of the ninjas have progressed over the years and enjoy it for what it was at the time.
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Mar 8, 2018 6:33:43 GMT -5
I feel like the people who want boot camp back are secret agents from NBC, interns sent here for the sole fact of saying "Hey, you know how we're going too much in the reality TV route nowadays? Remember when you had several episodes and the bulk of the season literally a reality tv series? Still wanna complain?" or something. In all seriousness no, boot camp was a terrible idea, made for terrible viewing, and was terrible for the competitors, limited your training time and everyone was unhappy about the del taco (especially vegetarians like David). Instead of "Hey rest whenever and train whenever so you can prepare in the way that suits you best" you got stuck in a week of "You'll only be able to do this when we want you to" Terrible viewing?They were some of the best ANW episodes there was.In fact there success inspired the creation of ANW as we know it we got to know the fifteen competitors very well,there was great competition and moments embodying the spirit of Ninja warrior(David not eliminating Brian or Evan helping Patrick his teammate).David Campbell did the best in Sasuke 26 and he went to Bootcamp so its clear is does give them experience and edge with Obstacles as well as that it provides entertainment. I still remember that disaster and I promise you it was no where as great as you think it is. Even my mom who was watching with me hated the drama with it. And I clearly remember EVERYONE on this board agreeing that the boot camp idea was horrible. Not to mention they were starved on top of other things. So yeah, no.
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Mar 8, 2018 6:37:21 GMT -5
It's funny how this topic gets brought up years after it happened in a vacuum with nothing else around it. People forget how THIS was the only way to get to Sasuke effectively eliminating qualifiers completely all for a Survivor'esk show that did nothing to train the athletes. I remember David Campbell talking about that where he they secluded you for almost 2 weeks and stunted your training. He got to Japan and felt that if he had that time back he would have done better since he could actually train more. So no it's a stunt for people who could get almost a month off of work which effectively eliminates the normal person from trying to get on the show and compete on Sasuke. Also, Vegas is filled now with 100'ish people.. you want a boot camp replacing Vegas? Because logistically it won't work at all with the 75,000 entrants to ANW each year. This format was despised for those of us who lived through it. Hindsight and late-comers to it have no idea how bad it was because they only saw the isolated episodes of their favorite handful of people without understanding how limiting and stupid the entire show really was. We were glad it was canceled so quickly and there's no need to bring it back. Survivor still exists.. watch that instead. Well Campbell did the best out of any competitor in sasuke 26 and did really well in 27 both times he went through bootcamp so it must have helped him whether he believed it or not.Bootcamp also had high ratings because it paved the way for the ANW we know.It had a great balance of competition and the true spirit of Ninja warrior aswell as providing great entertainment,shame it only lasted 3 seasons. Wait I swore bootcamp only lasted one season lol.
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Post by TCM on Mar 8, 2018 11:13:29 GMT -5
Well Campbell did the best out of any competitor in sasuke 26 and did really well in 27 both times he went through bootcamp so it must have helped him whether he believed it or not.Bootcamp also had high ratings because it paved the way for the ANW we know.It had a great balance of competition and the true spirit of Ninja warrior aswell as providing great entertainment,shame it only lasted 3 seasons. Wait I swore bootcamp only lasted one season lol. Boot Camp lasted from ANW 2-3
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Post by Ben Baker on Mar 14, 2018 6:29:05 GMT -5
They could do boot camp for like the walkons that want to try out. There are a lot of very good ninjas that cannot take off work or (like me) just isn’t Hollywood material. So if you got the skills, you can qualify for the show.
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Post by Messup434 on Mar 14, 2018 9:11:04 GMT -5
They technically could, but (unless they made yet another series out of that), it would only set their budget back, which they wouldn’t want. It’s be nice for the walk-one, but otherwise a bit of a waste!
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Post by arsenette on Mar 14, 2018 10:11:01 GMT -5
They won't do yet another show qualifier for the qualifier.. by law they'd have to do walkons for that show as well. It's an endless cycle.
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Post by Ben Baker on Mar 14, 2018 12:31:55 GMT -5
What they need is a mass qualifying. Correct me if I’m wrong but Sasuke has a bunch of people for trials. Have your total walk ons ex)100 do a sprint challenge, and monkey bar challenge. 2 quick challenges that whoever is the fastest 20 through, gets to go on the show. But this shouldn’t be aired
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Post by arsenette on Mar 14, 2018 21:49:04 GMT -5
What they need is a mass qualifying. Correct me if I’m wrong but Sasuke has a bunch of people for trials. Have your total walk ons ex)100 do a sprint challenge, and monkey bar challenge. 2 quick challenges that whoever is the fastest 20 through, gets to go on the show. But this shouldn’t be aired Sasuke has not had qualifying in several years. Doing push ups for the camera in tuned to a drum is not qualifying.. it's a measure they use to see if you want to be on the show and hardly ever do they use that as a metric to get on the show. The Monkey bar challenge was done ONCE about 15 years ago. And they DO have massive qualifying in ANW.. it's called regional qualifying where 75,000+ applicants are pared down to 600 or so and put through 2 rounds of qualifying for the Las Vegas final where they compete again for $1,000,000. ANW doesn't need another layer. It's already a reality show and by design they must show all rounds of qualifying since the whole purpose of the event is to entertain. This is not a sporting event.
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Post by Ben Baker on Mar 15, 2018 7:12:22 GMT -5
I agree with you, and I understand it’s a tv show. There really only looking for personality on your submission video, they could care less if your strong. They just need a way for a strong competitor . Maybe use that qualifying episode for what we are talking about, since the format is so repetitive anyways. I know I’m only dreaming here lol. I see so many strong guys at NNL tournaments around the nation that never get a chance
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Post by arsenette on Mar 15, 2018 13:38:07 GMT -5
I agree with you, and I understand it’s a tv show. There really only looking for personality on your submission video, they could care less if your strong. They just need a way for a strong competitor . Maybe use that qualifying episode for what we are talking about, since the format is so repetitive anyways. I know I’m only dreaming here lol. I see so many strong guys at NNL tournaments around the nation that never get a chance It's not going to happen simply by way of it's design. If it was a sport it would be totally different with a governing body organizing each minute detail in each region effectively destroying what the show is. There will always be the camp that wants only hardcore when it's clear that it's success on television is purely entertainment. The same could be said for Sasuke and how they approach it there during the Rising era not resonating with the audience. It's impossible to find a happy medium though. The USA is filled to the rafters with incredible talent and even with the oversize of this show (clearly too long for television and the ratings show the decline when it goes for too long) there won't be enough space for all of the hardcore. But I keep saying though that it's the nature of the beast. It's still asking for a shot at Hollywood and many have dedicated their lives in that pursuit. This is no different.. since it IS Hollywood everyone wants to be in.
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Post by Philster on Mar 17, 2018 19:54:04 GMT -5
No,No, and no.I personally didn't like boot camp because it was just personally a waste of time. It was like the ANW bootleg version of Big Brother. Also, I think, boot camp was just filler episodes for the finale. Just so people can stay hooked on it rather than move away from it and forget all about it thinking it was season finale. And they could've just did the normal routine but instead of the top 15 advancing, they could've done the top 10 in the city final goes to SASUKE.
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Post by Philster on Mar 17, 2018 19:54:38 GMT -5
Wait I swore bootcamp only lasted one season lol. Boot Camp lasted from ANW 2-3 As well as the weird beach episode in ANW 1.
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Post by Sierrae on Mar 18, 2018 6:08:40 GMT -5
f*** bootcamp the quailty of life sucked and all the competitors hated it.
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Post by TCM on Mar 18, 2018 7:06:10 GMT -5
Boot Camp lasted from ANW 2-3 As well as the weird beach episode in ANW 1. That wasn't boot camp, that was just its own random challenge they threw together
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