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Post by obakemono on Apr 16, 2009 18:31:06 GMT -5
I doubt most of the Muscle Musical people have great grip.
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Post by lars072 on Apr 18, 2009 9:08:33 GMT -5
Yes, the Sasuke 'All-stars' are a group of top competitors who would usually have the best chance of completing the course or at least passing the 1st stage. But, TBH, I don't really think the 'All-stars are named as such because of their performances but instead their passion, commitment, and camaraderie. Of course, most of them have not really been 'all-stars' for quite some time (only Nagano and Takeda could be considered at the present time) but they have stuck together all these years. Like Nagano said after winning Sasuke #17, it's not so much about winning but about the bond the all-stars have with each other.
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Post by lars072 on Apr 18, 2009 9:15:05 GMT -5
The discussion about the Sasuke All Stars and how they were many of them are past their prime got me thinking. If TBS were to choose a new set of All-Stars, who would they be? Based on performance there have only been a few people who have beaten the Shin-Sasuke First Stage twice (and all of them have failed at least once) and only Nagano has passed the First Stage 3 times in the first five tournaments. I remember bringing up this question in the G4 boards after Sasuke 20 with me saying this: My list of the Shin All Stars: Makoto Nagano - of course, but why shin all-star? Yuji Washimi - made 2nd stage in 18 and 19, but didn't look god on Salmon Ladder. He also failed the first stage in his otehr attempts so I wouldn't think that's all-star material Shunsuke Nagasaki - a shoe-in if he ever competes again Toshihiro Takeda - see Nagano Kenji Takahashi - can't pass the 1st stage so this is easy Levi Meeuwenberg - depends on his future in Sasuke
Others: Okuyama and Lee couldbe all-stars now but they are not that young so I doubt that would work
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Post by BLM on May 24, 2009 20:32:24 GMT -5
Takuya Kawahara has great potential and the only obstacles that can probably stop him past the first stage are the Salmon Ladder, Metal Spin, Cliff Hanger, and the Spider Flip for the rest of the obstacles he will breeze by
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Post by BLM on May 24, 2009 20:36:24 GMT -5
My list would be Makoto Nagano Toshihiro Takeda Yuuji Urushihara Shunsuke Nagasaki if we ever see him again Levi Meeuwenberg Takuya Kawahara if he ever beats the first stage Lee Enchi Yoshiyuki Okuyama Hitoshi Kanno
Terakazu Ishikawa and David Cambell have potential but they will not be all stars
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Post by alphabater on May 25, 2009 0:06:56 GMT -5
i would have to say 1. Nagano of course he's still the best competitor and still has the best chance to win the whole thing 2. Takeda he has been a big surprise and has really shown how good he is so he would be another one 3. Yuuji Urishihira only if he stays consistent 4. Levi Meeuwenberg because he's the one with the second best chance of beating the whole course 5. Kanno -same thing as Yuuji
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Post by Oti on May 25, 2009 0:56:54 GMT -5
I don't think Levi has any chance of beating the course right now. He needs a lot of training, mostly in strength. And humility.
I agree with the others, though. And I'm sure Shingo would go so far if he'd STOP MAKING DUMB MISTAKES.
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Post by SRW on May 25, 2009 2:37:28 GMT -5
Levi beat the course? hahahah sorry but no absolutly not no disrespect to levi but he is definatly not the best chance at clearing the course after Nagano!
Right now i'd say its...
Nagano Yuuji Urushihara Takeda Kanno Lee Yen Chee (once he can do the cliff hanger)
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Post by alphabater on May 25, 2009 17:27:27 GMT -5
Levi does have a better chance than everyone to beat the course besides Nagano it's just no one wants to admit it because no one likes Levi and would rather see him fail
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Post by Oti on May 25, 2009 18:08:44 GMT -5
Better chance than everyone besides Nagano. You wish. We say this because if you think about it, he's really not that good. He's got the speed and endurance down, so he usually beats stage one, but he's proven to us several times that he has practically no upper body strength or upper body endurance. He only beat the Salmon Ladder because of a technique that requires little strength. Once they made the bar heavier, he was too weak to beat it, even with that technique. He struggled terribly on the Wall Lift. He commented on how tired he was by the time he reached the Cliff Hanger. He's not even in the top 10 to beat the course.
And because of all that that I listed, he'll never get far into stage three. I bet he would have fallen off the Ascending Climb if he had beaten the Cliff Hanger in Sasuke 20. If not, he would have gone down on the Final Ring.
Sure, he could train and improve it, and if he did, then he'd be a serious competitor, but right now, he's got an extremely small shot.
And by the way, lots of people still like Levi.
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Post by madmanike on May 25, 2009 18:55:02 GMT -5
I'll agree with Oti. Unless Levi's upper body strength improves greatly from what it is now, it's highly unlikely that he'll make it past the 3rd stage. Too bad Mark pulled that tendon in his arm at 21. I would have liked to see what he could do against the 3rd stage.
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Post by Badalight on May 25, 2009 22:12:59 GMT -5
Oh ya, Levi has the best chance of beating stage 1 besides nagano maybe, but the entire course?
Yeah right.
I'd be amazed if he beat the cliff-hanger, and even more amazed if he beat all of stage 3.
And then there's really now ay he'd get to the top of the final stage rope. He'd get tired before even the halfway point.
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Post by chackpop on Jun 9, 2009 10:54:50 GMT -5
The Shin All Stars:
Nagano Makoto: of course Takeda Toshihiro: he's still in his prime Yuuji Urushihara: if he stays consistent Hitoshi Kanno: if he stays consistent Kawahara Takuya: if he canbeat the 7th obstacle and the first stage, he can go a long way Haga Tomoya: if he can beat the 7th obstacle, he can go a long way Nagasaki Shunsuke: if he returns Nagasaki Takamasa: if he returns and can beat the first stage
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Post by lars072 on Jun 21, 2009 1:46:54 GMT -5
The Shin All Stars: Nagano Makoto: of course Takeda Toshihiro: he's still in his prime Yuuji Urushihara: if he stays consistent Hitoshi Kanno: if he stays consistent Kawahara Takuya: if he canbeat the 7th obstacle and the first stage, he can go a long way Haga Tomoya: if he can beat the 7th obstacle, he can go a long way Nagasaki Shunsuke: if he returns Nagasaki Takamasa: if he returns and can beat the first stage LOL That's a lot of IFs Chackie. How about IF the show even survives a few more years. But seriously, why do we need a new group of 'all-stars' anyways. Will that really improve the ratings? And if you're including people on that list, then Lee En Ji needs to be there. Of the 4 times he has competed, he has been to stage 2 twice and the 3rd stage last time out. That is just as good or better than Takeda and Nagano's last 4 attempts.
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Post by obakemono on Jun 21, 2009 8:19:37 GMT -5
And if you're including people on that list, then Lee En Ji needs to be there. Of the 4 times he has competed, he has been to stage 2 twice and the 3rd stage last time out. That is just as good or better than Takeda and Nagano's last 4 attempts. He's not Japanese.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 21, 2009 8:56:21 GMT -5
I know TBS has made it difficult for anyone to be an All-Star. Even our favorites have been cut so many times from the show it's hard to keep a cohesive list of accomplishments and failures to make a real list.
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