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Post by arsenette on Aug 31, 2017 6:53:19 GMT -5
OK. But since I love the show, I'm still happy to see numbers that are good in context of this season. Fair enough. I don't see NBC canceling it anytime soon considering they have nothing to replace it and by comparison it's been the biggest hit in that time slot in the past 10 years. That said, the demographic is shrinking and it is a cause concern for the longevity of this show. Especially with the changes made to the format as a result of a demographic they are losing this season. That has to give the powers that be some pause.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 7, 2017 1:25:56 GMT -5
Okay. THIS is what I expected ANW to do against Bachelor in Paradise. ANW clearly in first this week even though the 1.5 is still really weak compared to previous years... but I doubt NBC will care, they look at placement overall and they will definitely take this one. ( Fast numbers) ( Final numbers - nothing was adjusted) American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) 1.5 rating / 6 share 6.29 million viewers Ratings chart - You can see that ANW didn't improve but Bachelor in Paradise dropped this week and you can clearly tell what happened. Women and men demo numbers dropped a lot this week on BIP. Cable numbers if you wanted to compare the whole night. Of concern for next week.. depending on what happens with Hurricane Irma.. we may see delayed programming or local programming cutting into the normal Monday Prime Time.
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Post by Steven π on Sept 7, 2017 4:24:34 GMT -5
Imagine what if CBS’s Survivor and NBC’s American Ninja Warrior air in the same time?
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Post by arsenette on Sept 7, 2017 5:16:51 GMT -5
Imagine what if CBS’s Survivor and NBC’s American Ninja Warrior air in the same time? Won't happen simply because Survivor is a regular season creation and NBC would never be crazy enough to go against it. You'll note that when the Fall season starts in earnest.. ANW drops like a brick. ANW does well in the summer. It's not a regular season type of show.
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Post by thatoneuser on Sept 7, 2017 7:13:49 GMT -5
Next week proves to be interesting in the ratings - Kacy's last ANW episode vs. Bachelor in Paradise season finale (according to Wikipedia) vs. Monday Night Football doubleheader. Lots to keep an eye on.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 7, 2017 7:59:58 GMT -5
Next week proves to be interesting in the ratings - Kacy's last ANW episode vs. Bachelor in Paradise season finale (according to Wikipedia) vs. Monday Night Football doubleheader. Lots to keep an eye on. I mentioned at the bottom of my last post that I'm reasonably confident that all the programming will be Irma related Sunday-Tuesday.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 12, 2017 14:20:52 GMT -5
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Post by arsenette on Sept 14, 2017 14:28:10 GMT -5
K Weird night because of the storm and 3 sets of preempts. ABC, CBS and NBC ratings below inflated by local prime time pre-emptions for NFL Monday Night Football (nationally on ESPN): ABC (in Los Angeles), CBS (in Minneapolis) and NBC (in New Orleans). So as a result the ratings are all over the place. When the dust settled ANW was on top. ( Fast numbers) and ( Final numbers) American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) 1.6 rating / 6 share 6.13 million viewers The ratings chart showed the wonkiness. (some change might happen as I type this but ANW's numbers didn't change - just stuff around it). It's obvious when you compare the Cable numbers that you see that most people were watching Football on ESPN. Next week should prove interesting. They will be aiming for silver since the premiere of Dancing with the Stars usually slaughters ANW in the ratings.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 22, 2017 8:43:47 GMT -5
Sorry been a bit discombobulated of late so I didn't get a chance to do this until now. Clearly in 2nd this time but it was not unexpected. ( Fast numbers) ( Final Ratings) American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) – F 1.5 rating / 6 share 5.96 million viewers Ratings chart - Cable numbersFinal analysis - thank your Grandparents for watching ANW. The youth have left watching this show.
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Post by danielnc on Sept 22, 2017 20:48:54 GMT -5
Final analysis - thank your Grandparents for watching ANW. The youth have left watching this show. It looks like it's the grandparents watching DWTS, too, and most everything else on TV. I think the youth are watching Drew's and Joe's runs the next day on YouTube/Facebook.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Sept 23, 2017 12:16:03 GMT -5
Sorry been a bit discombobulated of late so I didn't get a chance to do this until now. Clearly in 2nd this time but it was not unexpected. ( Fast numbers) ( Final Ratings) American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) – F 1.5 rating / 6 share 5.96 million viewers Ratings chart - Cable numbersFinal analysis - thank your Grandparents for watching ANW. The youth have left watching this show. That's hilarious and very much deserved due to the horrendous editing and current rulings of this show, but isn't this (the grandparents thing) true for almost all television now? Bar things like the Bachelor which only 20 year old girls are gonna be obsessed over, nobody my age that I know even has cable anymore, unless they still primarily live at home with their folks. Anyway this show is so hard to watch. I feel bad for the kids today who look up to its stars and love the show in general because they don't even know what's really good in comparison to Sasu-- god I feel like an old man hating on current media whenever I want to scream how much better Sasuke is, but ANW really puts into perspective how much better the integrity of Sasuke as a show and its competitors was. Actually if I was an old man I'd statistically be watching ANW en masse...
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Sept 23, 2017 18:05:16 GMT -5
I was gonna say I’m 22 and don’t have cable and I’m sure most 22 year olds don’t either. It’s so much cheaper to do Hulu / Netflix and that’s the future for us. I think that plays a huge part in this.
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Post by ekkerb11 on Sept 23, 2017 19:32:11 GMT -5
And this is yet ANOTHER reason why ANW should release significantly more runs on YouTube that they don't have time for on the show. They already have the film, the commentary, etc. I'm not an editor but I think it would be worth it.
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Post by SasukeForever on Sept 23, 2017 22:42:35 GMT -5
Well, they either need to cut a region or start a week earlier next year in my opinion. Why they wouldn't look ahead and see the finale would go against the premiere of DWTS and also MNF is questionable to me...and I understand that Big Brother and America's Got Talent also had finales this week but those channels all have new shows starting up next week so no comparison...but yeah there's nothing wrong with a finale in middle September to me, especially if they keep making these crazy stage 2 obstacles so nobody wins
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Post by arsenette on Sept 25, 2017 3:15:14 GMT -5
Agreed that ANW is just too long. Problem is NBC literally has nothing else to replace it. For those who remember NBC being in dead last place (even behind friggin Univision...) it wasn't until ANW 3 came around that they started to see success in the summer season. Once they realized they had a show that could hang with the summer lineup things changed. The fact that NBC still doesn't have a fall season opener is just baffling...
Matty is also correct that it's a symptom of a much larger problem. Similar when I caution people about critiquing the content of the show (as I did with Sasuke a couple of times), ratings are a measure of how many people are watching rather than the quality of the show (otherwise reality shows can die a painful death as they are the trash of television... ehem..). Television watching as a medium is going by the wayside as the current generation have skewed away from traditional television watching instead turning into a la cart viewing and binge watching (which is why Netflix and Hulu have the large base they have) or just tuning out entirely (some millennials don't even own a television). I'm on the cord cutting bandwagon and have been for almost 10 years now. I just don't watching TV really. I watch the occasional stuff on Netflix and any major binge watching I do for anime (on Crunchyroll or Netflix) or YouTube which isn't traditional media. There's a reason why there are more people that watched Kacy's and Jessie's run than all of the viewership of the last few ANW broadcasts combined... People just don't watch TV anymore. Humans are creatures of habit and our grandparents grew up watching TV while the younger generation grew up online. That translate to just less viewers in general and those who watch skewing way older. That's why NBC has gone all in on the demographic that the last few years was winning for them. That's now changing drastically so we'll see what next year brings. I don't see them adapting too much though as they sacrificed a lot for it. Losing Kacy was probably something that rocked NBC's world - it was obvious by how much footage of her was shown in the weirdest times sacrificing runs or others who did better. I'm wondering if we'll see a tribute starting next season.. or if they change again. Maybe they'll actually pay attention to the guys? Nah..
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Sept 25, 2017 12:08:31 GMT -5
What would shake up the entire show (for good or for worse) for Season 10 would be to completely do a redesign. However, all of us know that isn't happening lol.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 25, 2017 13:42:55 GMT -5
What would shake up the entire show (for good or for worse) for Season 10 would be to completely do a redesign. However, all of us know that isn't happening lol. To be honest that has zero to do with the ratings. I don't think people really understand that. What controls what ratings are in this situation is the marketing of the show and how they entice new people to watch. You are referring to the content of the show you already watch.
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Sept 25, 2017 14:54:13 GMT -5
What would shake up the entire show (for good or for worse) for Season 10 would be to completely do a redesign. However, all of us know that isn't happening lol. To be honest that has zero to do with the ratings. I don't think people really understand that. What controls what ratings are in this situation is the marketing of the show and how they entice new people to watch. You are referring to the content of the show you already watch. Yeah that's true. I half wonder if maybe they need a season change (like move the normal schedule). But usually summers are quiet aren't they? Also, they need to stop with the mass of spin offs lol.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 25, 2017 15:05:22 GMT -5
To be honest that has zero to do with the ratings. I don't think people really understand that. What controls what ratings are in this situation is the marketing of the show and how they entice new people to watch. You are referring to the content of the show you already watch. Yeah that's true. I half wonder if maybe they need a season change (like move the normal schedule). But usually summers are quiet aren't they? Also, they need to stop with the mass of spin offs lol. ANW only works in the summer. Anytime they move to a normal schedule they get hammered in the ratings. Problem is that it's just too long and most casuals that are still following this show get everything confused. Agreed that there are just too many spin offs. It creates a false narrative that you can just watch a couple episodes and know wtf is going on. ANW is supposed to be a narrative but expecting a casual fan to watch 3-4 months of hype to get to finals is ludicrous. Only us hardcore follow the system. Not even Olympic sports drag out the show the way ANW does and it shows with the confusion over simple things (like Kacy winning the whole thing, etc.). Probably an unpopular decision but they need to streamline ANW, cut a lot of the regions down and shorten the season. It will result in cutting a lot of people from contention but right now it's a free for all. It's not like NBC will show then anyway given how many are cut from the actual broadcast. Otherwise it's no different than an MXC/Wipeout broadcast where no one even remembers their names. You can't expect a casual fan to remember (or care) for 600 names that rotate every season. It's just impossible. That's added to the spin offs like USA vs. World, ANW All-Stars, Team Ninja Warrior, Celebrity Ninja Warrior that inexplicably air at the exact same time...
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Post by arsenette on Mar 12, 2018 12:44:46 GMT -5
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