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Post by arsenette on Jun 13, 2017 10:52:15 GMT -5
I forgot this usually gets it's own thread since it gets lost in episode discussion. Preliminary Ratings are in (remember that Final ratings go up the day after): American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) – P 1.4 rating / 5 share 5.43 million viewers Obviously Basketball slaughtered everything though this is the lowest rating they've had in a few years.. Ratings Chart:
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Post by TCM on Jun 13, 2017 10:54:30 GMT -5
Preliminary Ratings are in (remember that Final ratings go up the day after): American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) – P 1.4 rating / 5 share 5.43 million viewers Obviously Basketball slaughtered everything though this is the lowest rating they've had in a few years.. Ratings Chart: That said, judging by the prelims, it was the best performing non-ABC show so that hopefully is worth something. Once Game 4 went the way it did, they nail was already in the coffin. Even I went back and forth between Raw, ANW and the Finals (then again, I don't count as I don't have a Nielsen box).
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Post by arsenette on Jun 13, 2017 11:47:25 GMT -5
That said, judging by the prelims, it was the best performing non-ABC show so that hopefully is worth something. Once Game 4 went the way it did, they nail was already in the coffin. Even I went back and forth between Raw, ANW and the Finals (then again, I don't count as I don't have a Nielsen box). I did a ratings thread after the fact. LOL Though it does bear telling that this is by far the worst premiere they have ever had.. and this was not the first time they went up against the NBA finals. We'll see how it goes next week. Always cracks me up how many more women watch this show than men.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 14, 2017 14:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by arsenette on Jun 20, 2017 10:27:20 GMT -5
Fast numbers are out for Monday's episode. Tie for first but still way lower than last year. Looks like a plateau so far. IMO there's too many NW shows on at once. American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) 1.5 rating / 6 share 5.8 million viewers Breakdown of the fast numbers:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 15:06:10 GMT -5
It seems like this week on ANW and Spartan has better ratings
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Post by arsenette on Jun 20, 2017 20:38:28 GMT -5
It seems like this week on ANW and Spartan has better ratings Go back to last year's thread.. they usually pulled 2.0's.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 21, 2017 12:40:38 GMT -5
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Post by thatoneuser on Jun 21, 2017 12:43:50 GMT -5
Yikes. This is, uh, not good. Is it low enough to be "disaster scenario"?
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Jun 21, 2017 13:14:20 GMT -5
Not worried at all. Still better than 4, 5, 6 and on par just about with 7. Even then it's only a one mil decrease. Things can still improve.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 21, 2017 13:26:35 GMT -5
Yikes. This is, uh, not good. Is it low enough to be "disaster scenario"? Not even close to a disaster. They still can tout being top 2 every time in Prime Time television. The problem is though that they are apparently peaked last season and are plateaued now (from early numbers this month). Historically their highest rated shows are their premiere shows, however between the backlash against the girl rules (just read the Facebook...) and the fact that this is indeed the 4th Ninja Warrior series in 2 weeks.. they are diluting the market. We the hardcore know wtf is going but the average viewer will not know which is the finals.. which is the real one.. which is the spin off and who to root for. TNW is in the finals, Celeb was a one off, vs. World was a year old event and the current season is getting hit by a bad reaction that will last for the next few weeks until they get out of the City Finals. Even so, they are still a solid 2nd place. They are going into the summer where there really isn't much competition anyway as some channels go into reruns. The problem is the fall season - but that is months away. In the long run, if they don't grow they will just turn into Wipeout and eventually be cancelled. The market will become saturated (remember that more obstacle course shows exist and even Battle of the Network Stars is being revived) less and less relevance will allow ANW to hold the top spot. That is normal TBH. Given also that they already taped a full season of several shows of the same type.. we have another year of the same thing. That won't bode well over time. People will just become tired of it. The format itself doesn't rely on a few vets either so it's not like people can rely on seeing their favorites. The format is different. I give it about another couple years if numbers don't improve.. but even so.. NBC doesn't have anything to replace it. Ya'll forget that NBC was in last for a solid 10 years before ANW saved their a**es. That alone has to count for something.
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Post by blah123 on Jun 21, 2017 14:21:29 GMT -5
Yikes. This is, uh, not good. Is it low enough to be "disaster scenario"? Not even close to a disaster. They still can tout being top 2 every time in Prime Time television. The problem is though that they are apparently peaked last season and are plateaued now (from early numbers this month). Historically their highest rated shows are their premiere shows, however between the backlash against the girl rules (just read the Facebook...) and the fact that this is indeed the 4th Ninja Warrior series in 2 weeks.. they are diluting the market. We the hardcore know wtf is going but the average viewer will not know which is the finals.. which is the real one.. which is the spin off and who to root for. TNW is in the finals, Celeb was a one off, vs. World was a year old event and the current season is getting hit by a bad reaction that will last for the next few weeks until they get out of the City Finals. Even so, they are still a solid 2nd place. They are going into the summer where there really isn't much competition anyway as some channels go into reruns. The problem is the fall season - but that is months away. In the long run, if they don't grow they will just turn into Wipeout and eventually be cancelled. The market will become saturated (remember that more obstacle course shows exist and even Battle of the Network Stars is being revived) less and less relevance will allow ANW to hold the top spot. That is normal TBH. Given also that they already taped a full season of several shows of the same type.. we have another year of the same thing. That won't bode well over time. People will just become tired of it. The format itself doesn't rely on a few vets either so it's not like people can rely on seeing their favorites. The format is different. I give it about another couple years if numbers don't improve.. but even so.. NBC doesn't have anything to replace it. Ya'll forget that NBC was in last for a solid 10 years before ANW saved their a**es. That alone has to count for something. I agree the current format (fluff overload, small investment in vets, over-saturation of other ninja shows) is not sustainable in the long-run, but what's stopping them from switching it up? I mean I get that they want to cash out on the whole recent viral craze (caused in large part by Kacy then someone winning then Jesse). But it's just like .. why not dial it back a little bit now in favor of long term success? I just don't understand.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 21, 2017 14:28:44 GMT -5
I agree the current format (fluff overload, small investment in vets, over-saturation of other ninja shows) is not sustainable in the long-run, but what's stopping them from switching it up? I mean I get that they want to cash out on the whole recent viral craze (caused in large part by Kacy then someone winning then Jesse). But it's just like .. why not dial it back a little bit now to ensure long term success? I just don't understand. They can ask CBS (I think that's the channel) that still has a successful perennial show called "Survivor".. they've been around for what.. 20 years? You don't have 4 different Survivors at the same time.. they have one per season. Instead of spacing out things throughout the year.. NBC shoves everything at once. There's no reason why they couldn't show vs. World last year or even over the winter as an example. It's obvious people want to see it or they wouldn't have the ratings at all. But right now you have Ninja Warrior fatigue and the flagship show just started for another 3 months..
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Post by TCM on Jun 21, 2017 16:46:52 GMT -5
I agree the current format (fluff overload, small investment in vets, over-saturation of other ninja shows) is not sustainable in the long-run, but what's stopping them from switching it up? I mean I get that they want to cash out on the whole recent viral craze (caused in large part by Kacy then someone winning then Jesse). But it's just like .. why not dial it back a little bit now to ensure long term success? I just don't understand. They can ask CBS (I think that's the channel) that still has a successful perennial show called "Survivor".. they've been around for what.. 20 years? You don't have 4 different Survivors at the same time.. they have one per season. Instead of spacing out things throughout the year.. NBC shoves everything at once. There's no reason why they couldn't show vs. World last year or even over the winter as an example. It's obvious people want to see it or they wouldn't have the ratings at all. But right now you have Ninja Warrior fatigue and the flagship show just started for another 3 months.. For specifics, Survivor has been around 17 years with 34 seasons and a 35th to air in the fall. They do two a year since the second season and since the fifth, one takes place from February (or March, like the most recent aired season) to May and then from September to December. So there's always a 2-4 month break dependent on the tv season. The most recent season actually had their worst premiere/finale ratings based off of millions of viewers but 1. they still are in the top 30, 2. typically win their weekly slot and 3. have had more cultural relevance this season over any other due to the extremely controversial incident where one of the castaways was outed as trans and thus the reaction/follow-up over such a sticky situation. In other words, Survivor has a dedicated base that always watches.
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Post by arsenette on Jun 27, 2017 11:34:00 GMT -5
Fast numbers are in. Just ahead in 1st barely but still first. We'll see if anything gets adjusted tomorrow. The average is much lower this season (ANW has yet to break 2.0 (a mark that ANW used to do almost weekly) - in fact it hasn't even gotten close this season), still, network is struggling to keep viewers outside of major sports events. American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) 1.5 rating / 6 share 6 million viewers The Gender breakdown is intense. Women are not only keeping this afloat.. it looks like they shifted at 9pm from Bachelorette to ANW. LOL
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Post by thatoneuser on Jun 27, 2017 12:42:08 GMT -5
I wonder how much Jessie had to do with the flip. I guess we'll see next week.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 6, 2017 2:31:07 GMT -5
Dead night.. LOL Worst ratings but look at the rest of the field. Still first though since it was the only network to not run a re-run. American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) 1.0 rating / 5 share 5.08 million viewers Edit: Final numbers in. ANW adjusted up 0.1 rating. Ratings chart: Updated Ratings chart with cable numbers.
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Post by Ninja Warrior Ryan on Jul 11, 2017 3:07:14 GMT -5
Dead night.. LOL Worst ratings but look at the rest of the field. Still first though since it was the only network to not run a re-run. American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) 1.0 rating / 5 share 5.08 million viewers Edit: Final numbers in. ANW adjusted up 0.1 rating. Ratings chart: Updated Ratings chart with cable numbers. I would assume a lot had to do with it being close to the 4th.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 11, 2017 21:17:41 GMT -5
Hmm.. not a slow week after all.. Just network normal programming isn't getting the views. Seems everyone was on cable this week watching the Homerun derby. The ratings are terrible.. but still tied for first but really low rating overall for network. Worst in history if you just look at the numbers. I'm sure NBC will just look at placement since all of network is down vs. cable the past year. American Ninja Warrior (NBC) (8-10 p.m.) 1.4 rating / 6 share 5.56 million viewers Ratings chart with cable numbers (and it's updated to they have final numbers and only 1 other show was adjusted down - no change to ANW). Less men are watching which is interesting.. Ratings chart from just network has the hour by hour. Women and old people are holding this show together. They've lost their target demographic.. which is.. interesting if not a little disconcerting.
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