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Post by Messup434 on Aug 16, 2017 18:43:26 GMT -5
Ok, there are a few things that didn't make sense: - In the intro, they called Joe the fastest in qualifying. Then they said Sean Noel was the 3rd fastest, "only behind Joe Moravsky". Digesting every run of Anthony De Franco is one thing, but why deny his accomplishments? - When Naj and The Beast ran, they said that they have to be in under 5' at the Nail Clipper. That tells me that Nr. 15 was at 5:01. Naj and Joe beat that time, which means that Nr. 15 must have fallen to 17. Yet somehow Jesse ended up at 15 with 5:03. Wut?? Also, has it happened before that a City Final had 0 falls on the 9th obstacle (i.e. everyone either clearing it or falling on 8)? I'm guessing they just rounded it to five (either for simplicity rather than saying the full time or to make Naji's run a bit more dramatic). Well if you count the Cargo Climb from comps 1-4 then there have been tons of Finals with no ninth obstacle fails. But if not, I'm not as sure. Maybe Miami Finals in ANW6 with the Floating Stairs?
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Post by jba392 on Aug 16, 2017 20:30:49 GMT -5
Yeah they should have put Mcgrath and Alyssa in Kansas since there is no real big Star (sorry Lance). Also the Women there aren't the best. Would major sports leagues start relocating franchises just because one division is strong while another one sucks? This ain't a major sports league though. I fully agree that NBC should've seen what they could do to shuffle some more top talent to KC. Graff and Coolridge couldn't compete in LA like they normally would? Put 'em in KC.
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Post by hashtagswag on Aug 17, 2017 1:58:07 GMT -5
Cos kc is the weakest city and tbh i dont even think their course was the hardest ..the field is just poor .
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Post by MiguelAbuel on Aug 17, 2017 4:39:26 GMT -5
Would major sports leagues start relocating franchises just because one division is strong while another one sucks? This ain't a major sports league though. I fully agree that NBC should've seen what they could do to shuffle some more top talent to KC. Graff and Coolridge couldn't compete in LA like they normally would? Put 'em in KC. KC really needed more talent since the cut-off was Obstacle 4
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Post by SasukeForever on Aug 17, 2017 5:58:55 GMT -5
This is the problem with the 2 women advance rule. Literally Michelle made it to the 8th obstacle and doesn't make it to Vegas, rewind 2 weeks ago, Kacy can't get up the wall but she goes through. It's just a strange system. I understand that you can't really do anything about it because the courses are all different but I do agree that the fields could definitely be a little bit more balanced. Some regions are stacked and some regions just aren't very good.
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Post by madship on Aug 17, 2017 8:11:09 GMT -5
Yeah they should have put Mcgrath and Alyssa in Kansas since there is no real big Star (sorry Lance). Also the Women there aren't the best. James would've still been injured in Kansas And with two weeks less recovery time than he had when Cleveland taped.
It's amazing how much worse he looked after that "5-week gap" between the qualifiers and finals.
Ok, there are a few things that didn't make sense: - In the intro, they called Joe the fastest in qualifying. Then they said Sean Noel was the 3rd fastest, "only behind Joe Moravsky". Digesting every run of Anthony De Franco is one thing, but why deny his accomplishments? - When Naj and The Beast ran, they said that they have to be in under 5' at the Nail Clipper. That tells me that Nr. 15 was at 5:01. Naj and Joe beat that time, which means that Nr. 15 must have fallen to 17. Yet somehow Jesse ended up at 15 with 5:03. Wut?? Also, has it happened before that a City Final had 0 falls on the 9th obstacle (i.e. everyone either clearing it or falling on 8)? I'm guessing they just rounded it to five (either for simplicity rather than saying the full time or to make Naji's run a bit more dramatic). Well if you count the Cargo Climb from comps 1-4 then there have been tons of Finals with no ninth obstacle fails. But if not, I'm not as sure. Maybe Miami Finals in ANW6 with the Floating Stairs? I also think Matt was rounding. Naj touched at 4:52 and Joe's time of 4:18 doesn't matter since he completed the nail clipper. I saw somewhere that James was 16th that night at 5:07. Standing on the sidelines it was known that he was too slow to the Nail Clipper.
In 10 obstacle era Cleveland is the first not to have a 9th obstacle fail. The closest similar event would be from season 5 when no one failed the 8th obstacle in Miami. Cleveland was the 12th time that all who reached the 10th ocstacle cleared it.
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Post by DonalM on Aug 17, 2017 18:37:28 GMT -5
Ok, there are a few things that didn't make sense: - In the intro, they called Joe the fastest in qualifying. Then they said Sean Noel was the 3rd fastest, "only behind Joe Moravsky". Digesting every run of Anthony De Franco is one thing, but why deny his accomplishments? - When Naj and The Beast ran, they said that they have to be in under 5' at the Nail Clipper. That tells me that Nr. 15 was at 5:01. Naj and Joe beat that time, which means that Nr. 15 must have fallen to 17. Yet somehow Jesse ended up at 15 with 5:03. Wut?? Also, has it happened before that a City Final had 0 falls on the 9th obstacle (i.e. everyone either clearing it or falling on 8)? We came close with 2 fails in Miami Season 5 and 1 in LA Season 8.
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Post by 2D2Will on Aug 18, 2017 11:41:50 GMT -5
My thoughts on the Cleveland Finals. This video went long. Perhaps too long.
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Post by madship on Aug 18, 2017 13:29:29 GMT -5
My thoughts on the Cleveland Finals. This video went long. Perhaps too long. I enjoyed the episode, but I was biased. I spent a lot of time looking for myself and may have missed some of the action. What was in that red mug? Matt and Akbar didn't cost James a trip to Vegas. James spent a lot of time resting and stating loudly "I'm not used to this." Same issues as Michelle. I'm sure that was due to a loss of conditioning related to the shoulder injury. That and the crazy dismount choice. If he turned around, he would have made the dismount. It's a testament to his base level that he went farther than all but Joe and Jaime. I agree with you to an extent about the 8th obstacle cutoff, but I think it's been that way for a while. I don't remember off hand when a ninja who failed th Salmon Ladder made it to Vegas. By airing the Nail Clipper (horrible name) should have been obstacle 9. I think that would have made a more dramatic episode. Since Cleveland was actually after KC, the new obstacle was in the 8th spot. The Clacker already had its time at obstacle 9 in Atlanta last year. Many of the ninjas would have been pumped out and failed The Clacker and the cut off would still have been obstacle 8, but there would have been only 10 or 12 failures on The Nail Clipper.
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Post by 2D2Will on Aug 18, 2017 18:11:03 GMT -5
The mug had a Mike's Hard Lemonade in it. Don't tell YouTube.
You're right that Matt and Akbar technically didn't cost James Vegas. I just feel like the hosts shouldn't be talking to the contestant mid run unless the contestant starts the conversation. The Armchair Ninja Podcast made a good point that it was very poor form of M&A to tell James that he only had 40 seconds to reach the top of the Salmon Ladder. I don't know if I did a good job making it clear in the video, but I'm just very frustrated with ANW right now largely because so many times the top 15 is decided by who finishes the Salmon Ladder the fastest and it's just getting old. At the very least, if ANW made it clear that there was some type of advantage to clearing the course, it would help my enjoyment of the show because then it would mean the last two obstacles actually mattered again.
Also I looked it up, the cut off of the Oklahoma city finals last year was failing the Salmon Ladder. I have a feeling we may see that in KC or Denver.
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Post by chase247 on Aug 18, 2017 19:18:33 GMT -5
The mug had a Mike's Hard Lemonade in it. Don't tell YouTube. You're right that Matt and Akbar technically didn't cost James Vegas. I just feel like the hosts shouldn't be talking to the contestant mid run unless the contestant starts the conversation. The Armchair Ninja Podcast made a good point that it was very poor form of M&A to tell James that he only had 40 seconds to reach the top of the Salmon Ladder. I don't know if I did a good job making it clear in the video, but I'm just very frustrated with ANW right now largely because so many times the top 15 is decided by who finishes the Salmon Ladder the fastest and it's just getting old. At the very least, if ANW made it clear that there was some type of advantage to clearing the course, it would help my enjoyment of the show because then it would mean the last two obstacles actually mattered again. Also I looked it up, the cut off of the Oklahoma city finals last year was failing the Salmon Ladder. I have a feeling we may see that in KC or Denver. I honestly feel like in KC the cutoff point will be the Bar Hop or maybe even Crank It Up...
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Post by anime boy on Sept 9, 2017 22:18:12 GMT -5
Cleveland Stats Qualifiers 100 Runners Floating Steps: 11 Fails Rolling Log: 9 Fails Razors Edge: 19 Fails Ring Jump: 29 Fails (Buffs work 😂) I-Beam Gap: 16 Fails Warped Wall: 1 Fail Clears: 14 (Fastest Clear: Anthony DeFranco) Consensus: The Ring Jump was buffed and it did some damage but our ninjas didn't struggle too hard.
City Finals 33 Runners Floating Steps: 0 Fails Rolling Log: 3 Fails Razors Edge: 3 Fails Ring Jump: 0 Fails I-Beam Gap: 4 Fails Warped Wall: 0 Fails Salmon Ladder: 1 Fail NailClipper: 20 Fails #OUCH The Clacker: 0 Fails Elevator Climb: 0 Fails Clears: 2 (Fastest Clear: Joe Moravsky) Consensus: What went from an easy qualifier became a bloodbath due to some NailClippers.
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