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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 27, 2017 15:24:03 GMT -5
Also the thread title itself is pretty spoiler-y. Maybe, title doesn't really say too much, it could mean he failed ob1, it could mean he made it to the final and didn't win a 3rd time, technically it is spoilers in the sense that it implies he failed somewhere but it doesn't say too much
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Post by Philip on Mar 27, 2017 16:10:48 GMT -5
Somewhere down the line they realized they goofed up. They thought they could own Sasuke and become famous. Then they went to the USA and got an education. They haven't been the same since. Except for Morimoto, who kicked a** in the US every time he was there lol
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Post by arsenette on Mar 27, 2017 22:59:26 GMT -5
Somewhere down the line they realized they goofed up. They thought they could own Sasuke and become famous. Then they went to the USA and got an education. They haven't been the same since. Except for Morimoto, who kicked a** in the US every time he was there lol Morimoto isn't shin sedai. LOL
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Mar 27, 2017 23:11:28 GMT -5
Except for Morimoto, who kicked a** in the US every time he was there lol Morimoto isn't shin sedai. LOL So like. Who's actually considered to be members of Shin Sedai at this point? I know Sato was a while back, but idk if that applies now since he's been gone so long. I know there's Yuuji, Ryo, Kanno... and a few others.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 27, 2017 23:24:03 GMT -5
Not under Inui though.. Only Kanno, Asa, Ryo and Yuuji are considered as Shin Sedai. They went through the motions of defining them in Sasuke 28's Navi. Only fans think they add to them every year since Higuchi used to do that. Higuchi is gone when M9 went down so they pared the list down to 4 for some reason taking out about 4-5 members that TBS didn't want for some reason.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Mar 27, 2017 23:48:28 GMT -5
Not under Inui though.. Only Kanno, Asa, Ryo and Yuuji are considered as Shin Sedai. They went through the motions of defining them in Sasuke 28's Navi. Only fans think they add to them every year since Higuchi used to do that. Higuchi is gone when M9 went down so they pared the list down to 4 for some reason taking out about 4-5 members that TBS didn't want for some reason. Huh, that's strange. But I guess it makes sense given the current climate. Can't believe I forgot about Asa, hahaha jfc. It's pretty sad that they don't seem as motivated anymore, although given how the RISING era has treated them, it's not too difficult to see why. They don't get treated as well as the celebrities do, and Morimoto may have made them feel a little up-staged, even though I'm sure that isn't his intention. I hope to see a comeback from them soon, 'cause I know they have it in them. At least Asa seems to still be trying his best.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 28, 2017 0:02:22 GMT -5
The contrast between Morimoto and Tomohiro (and I guess Shinya, Shunsuke, and Sato) and the Shin Sedai is a weird one indeed. The 5 of them are like Kong in that they aren't declared as belonging to a group (I think?).
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Post by arsenette on Mar 28, 2017 0:13:14 GMT -5
The contrast between Morimoto and Tomohiro (and I guess Shinya, Shunsuke, and Sato) and the Shin Sedai is a weird one indeed. The 5 of them are like Kong in that they aren't declared as belonging to a group (I think?). Morimoto is alone and without a group (something he enjoys lol). Tomo was technically in the Shin Sedai radar until Inui pruned the group. Now they are trying to get out of the group mentality since the current group is imploding. Some unofficially have him in there after his final's appearance and his closeness to the Shin group going way back as they are all Sasuke Trial Qualifiers. Morimoto didn't get on the show through ST so he was always an anomaly. Shinya and Sato are also STQ though Shinya is close to the Shin Sedai while Sato is waaaaaaay out on his own. No one likes him so they steer clear of him. Shunsuke is a vet and technically considered a pro athlete from way back when he was a finalist while being on the show as an Olympic hopeful. Even now Shun has a manager that books his appearances so he was always treated differently (and why TBS doesn't like it - his management is not well liked while he himself is fine). Kong we consider in the "Veteran" category which technically could house Morimoto and Shunsuke but by their own admission.. they like not being in groups.
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Post by zdude69closedrofl on Mar 28, 2017 0:22:07 GMT -5
Sato isn't liked? I noticed he seemed really introverted compared to all the others.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 28, 2017 0:36:26 GMT -5
Sato isn't liked? I noticed he seemed really introverted compared to all the others. That was discussed last year. Check the 32 forums for that conversation.
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Post by sentinel on Mar 28, 2017 11:52:10 GMT -5
Still interested to hear reasons why people say they aren't motivated. Yuuji's tentative steps at the very beginning indicated the opposite to me if anything. Total nervousness and fear of messing up.
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Post by wolf4537 on Mar 28, 2017 12:36:05 GMT -5
He looked petrified whilst on the start line. I had a feeling he'd fail the first obstacle, if anything since it's not difficult to mess up. Makes me wonder what has more shock value to it, either Yuuji's fail, or Kazuhiko Akiyama's first obstacle failure from Sasuke 9.
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Post by wrestlingfan55 on Mar 28, 2017 14:47:47 GMT -5
He looked petrified whilst on the start line. I had a feeling he'd fail the first obstacle, if anything since it's not difficult to mess up. Makes me wonder what has more shock value to it, either Yuuji's fail, or Kazuhiko Akiyama's first obstacle failure from Sasuke 9. The latter for me. I honestly anticipated Yuuji's failure.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 28, 2017 20:35:40 GMT -5
Still interested to hear reasons why people say they aren't motivated. Yuuji's tentative steps at the very beginning indicated the opposite to me if anything. Total nervousness and fear of messing up. Some people are more in the know. Some people know them personally or the people they are close to. It's not their job to disclose the private lives of these people. When someone like that says something, it's not simple conjecture, it's an observable fact.
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Post by sentinel on Mar 29, 2017 1:21:28 GMT -5
Still interested to hear reasons why people say they aren't motivated. Yuuji's tentative steps at the very beginning indicated the opposite to me if anything. Total nervousness and fear of messing up. Some people are more in the know. Some people know them personally or the people they are close to. It's not their job to disclose the private lives of these people. When someone like that says something, it's not simple conjecture, it's an observable fact. uhhhh okay, never implied it was anyone's job to "disclose the private lives of these people." Simply asked why people are making such a bold claim. I don't think them answering "I talked to him" is getting any more personal than them revealing they aren't motivated in the first place. And I'm pretty sure not everyone repeating this hypothesis is "in the know" at all.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 29, 2017 1:33:12 GMT -5
Some people are more in the know. Some people know them personally or the people they are close to. It's not their job to disclose the private lives of these people. When someone like that says something, it's not simple conjecture, it's an observable fact. uhhhh okay, never implied it was anyone's job to "disclose the private lives of these people." Simply asked why people are making such a bold claim. I don't think them answering "I talked to him" is getting any more personal than them revealing they aren't motivated in the first place. And I'm pretty sure not everyone repeating this hypothesis is "in the know" at all. It's not a bold claim when there are people on these very forums that know them personally and have posted about their lack of motivation. I'm not sure what else you need. The other people that don't know them personally are just parroting off of the words of people they trust.
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Post by sentinel on Mar 29, 2017 2:04:04 GMT -5
All I asked is why people think Ryo/Yuuji don't care. I asked it because it seems like Yuuji cares to me. The answer, I now know, is that they believe Ryo/Yuuji don't care because someone who is typically "in the know" said they don't care. That's it. I don't need anything else. That includes your attitude.
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Post by arsenette on Mar 29, 2017 2:07:56 GMT -5
Bada is in Japan and connected to others in Japan as well. Yuuji has gone on record a few times not connected to me at all. I know it's painful for you to understand that there are others who are connected to the stars outside of me but don't be lashing out at them the way you do with me. Every single shin sedai is on Facebook and often connect with their fans, post on their own and even meet them face to face. All of that has been open knowledge for years.
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Post by sentinel on Mar 29, 2017 9:43:27 GMT -5
Why would it be "painful" for me to understand people are connected to them? Again, I simply asked, in the spirit of a discussion board, why people say he doesn't care, because it was surprising to me. I'm not lashing out at anyone; it was him who set the tone of the discussion.
I'd tempted to question the validity of how someone can know a person doesn't care about something via social media or 2nd or 3rd hand reports. But I'm not interested in continuing this with either of you so I'll leave it at that.
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Post by Badalight on Mar 29, 2017 9:50:31 GMT -5
Why would it be "painful" for me to understand people are connected to them? Again, I simply asked, in the spirit of a discussion board, why people say he doesn't care, because it was surprising to me. I'm not lashing out at anyone; it was him who set the tone of the discussion. I'd tempted to question the validity of how someone can know a person doesn't care about something via social media or 2nd or 3rd hand reports. But I'm not interested in continuing this with either of you so I'll leave it at that. I didn't have an attitude or a tone, but thems the breaks when you're communicating with only text. And again, we don't need social media or 2nd/3rd hand reports. There are people who know them on a very personal level. As a personal anecdote, while I'm not saying me and Yuuji are best friends for life, I literally live a few train stops away from him. Just sayin'
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