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Post by wolf4537 on Mar 26, 2017 10:22:36 GMT -5
I think 128 seconds was a lot of time for the first stage, considering that there were no real time consuming obstacles in general besides the Tackle. I think it should've been maybe 120 to make it more consistent.
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Post by SasukeForever on Mar 26, 2017 10:27:54 GMT -5
I think the competitors were able to go at an average pace and get through without too much stress. I'd lower it to 120 next time, but that's if the course is the same...new obstacles might change that.
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Post by Philip on Mar 26, 2017 10:33:10 GMT -5
115 would have been nice.
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Mar 26, 2017 10:59:29 GMT -5
120 sounds about right. Don't know where they pulled the number 128 out from, but they obviously wanted the same or more amount of clears from last time.
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Post by intelligentinfer on Mar 26, 2017 11:48:31 GMT -5
It was too long. And most competitors spent most of their time waiting before the Fishbone and that's why its clear rate isn't too bad.
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Post by SasukeSprinter2.0 on Mar 26, 2017 14:21:58 GMT -5
I'd say 115 seconds. I've always said, A competitor shouldn't be able to finish with anything over 20 seconds without a full-out sprint. However, it should be lenient enough so it allows the competitor a little breathing room. Last year was, like, the perfect time limit. It should force the competitor to keep a consistent pace, and speed up if they are low on time. A perfect example would be this year's ANW. Not to trail too far off topic.
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Post by dudesky1000 on Mar 26, 2017 15:10:06 GMT -5
They wanted to give Yamada a chance (to show us the way). Unfortunately he couldn't do it.
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Post by TCM on Mar 26, 2017 17:37:19 GMT -5
128 was fine. That Stage 1 has numerous quirks where a misstep or trying to rush will end you and we saw that throughout the entire tournament. People trying to one-step the Quad Steps but putting their foot too high, trying to speed over the rollers in Rolling Hill, the TIE Fighter is a bit on a delay, people needing multiple swings on the Double Pendulum, the weights on Tackle are the same weight as last year which was a significant uptick in difficulty.
What happened was unlike last year, most people who got to the Soritatsu Kabe actually did it in one try after taking their time which gave them plenty of time to clear and you could see in a decent amount of competitors, even doing all that with the time they had on the clock still had them haggard and needing to take a breath. Not to mention, there were only 3 clears (that we know of, we weren't given Sato or Nagasaki's clear times although I remember hearing Sato had the quickest clear) where there were over 20 seconds on the clock. I'd rather a seemingly 'lenient' time limit than one that slaughters everyone. If we had 115 seconds, a difference of 13 seconds, only Drew, Asa and Daisuke Igarashi would have cleared (at most we have five based on whatever Sato and Nagasaki's times were). The only ANW Stage 1 in Vegas that was less time than 33's was ANW 6.
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Post by yamfriend on Mar 26, 2017 18:44:16 GMT -5
I'm pretty much in agreement with what TCM said, though I feel just a few seconds less would have still been okay. IMO 125 seconds would have been perfect, though part of me is just saying that out of the OCD of having a time limit that's a multiple of 5.
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Post by Eclipse on Mar 26, 2017 18:54:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty much in agreement with what TCM said, though I feel just a few seconds less would have still been okay. IMO 125 seconds would have been perfect, though part of me is just saying that out of the OCD of having a time limit that's a multiple of 5. When humanity is eventually overrun by robots, they'll look back at Sasuke 33 and be pleased the time was nicely formatted in base 2 (2^7)
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Post by Badalight on Mar 26, 2017 20:06:52 GMT -5
I think 125 would be nice because 128 just looks goofy.
I'm all for a more lenient time limit on stage 1. I like a lot of stage 1 clears. Stage 2 is the equalizer. If you were lucky enough to weasle your way through stage 1, stage 2 should decimate you with the salmon ladder and a strict time limit.
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Post by SRW on Mar 26, 2017 20:17:10 GMT -5
Leave it at 125 or 130 I don't care which just make sure it's do able so get a good few clears so we have a show!
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 26, 2017 20:24:28 GMT -5
Time limit was fine the way it was for the course, I mean it's possible to rush (although that would be a dangerous strategy of the Fishbone) but most of the clears were within the buzzer so it did its job.
Also I have OCD too, but 128 didn't bother me anywhere near as much as Sasuke 14's 103...
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Post by Messup434 on Mar 26, 2017 20:29:10 GMT -5
I honestly would be happy with 1:17.5.
I'm guessing 1:28 came from the averages if the testers
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Post by wolf4537 on Mar 26, 2017 20:57:55 GMT -5
Time limit was fine the way it was for the course, I mean it's possible to rush (although that would be a dangerous strategy of the Fishbone) but most of the clears were within the buzzer so it did its job. Also I have OCD too, but 128 didn't bother me anywhere near as much as Sasuke 14's 103... Let's not also forget Sasuke 8's 77 second timer....
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Post by RiderLeangle on Mar 26, 2017 21:02:50 GMT -5
Time limit was fine the way it was for the course, I mean it's possible to rush (although that would be a dangerous strategy of the Fishbone) but most of the clears were within the buzzer so it did its job. Also I have OCD too, but 128 didn't bother me anywhere near as much as Sasuke 14's 103... Let's not also forget Sasuke 8's 77 second timer.... That at least goes together since it's 2 sevens, it's symmetrical 103 is just... Ewww so OCD bothering
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Post by TCM on Mar 27, 2017 7:53:54 GMT -5
I honestly would be happy with 1:17.5. I'm guessing 1:28 came from the averages if the testers If you're converting seconds to minutes, 128 seconds is 2:08
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Post by yasuoyujji on Mar 27, 2017 9:38:44 GMT -5
I would have SASUKE 34 to have a 125-second time limit for the first stage. The clear times in SASUKE 33 is slightly crazy again(though not as crazy as 15 or 30) but a 3 second time reduction will not be too unfair.
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Post by Messup434 on Mar 27, 2017 12:31:24 GMT -5
I honestly would be happy with 1:17.5. I'm guessing 1:28 came from the averages if the testers If you're converting seconds to minutes, 128 seconds is 2:08 Oh you're right! Sorry I must've absently-mindedly written that post and juSt stuck the : in out of habit!
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Post by gt4dom on Mar 27, 2017 12:35:46 GMT -5
We want lots of clears in Stage 1! I'd maybe drop it down to 125 seconds, although I expect Double Pendulum to be changed for next tournament so who knows (every obstacle took out a major name though so I wouldn't be surprised if the 34 course is identical but I feel this is most likely to get changed out of everything)
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