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Post by BobbyG11 on Feb 15, 2017 15:02:41 GMT -5
I honestly pick Drew to defeat it next. But I have to ask the rest of you who voted Drew, do you THINK he can beat it, or do you just WANT him to. Just wondering, it's both for me. He can beat it, but I don't think he's quite there yet. I think he needs another year of climbing. He put a rock wall in his gym but I think he's mainly been going quickly side to side. His pics the last month or two though I felt like he looked leaner, like he was trying to reduce a little body weight to help with that vertical hang. Morimoto can do it, but I would be shocked if he did the first time. Who knows how much the real job world impacted training. But he is a workaholic....
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Post by sentinel on Mar 4, 2017 15:31:20 GMT -5
Still think Ryo and Yuuji have a good chance if they can actually make it to Stage 3.
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Post by DonalM on Mar 4, 2017 15:53:23 GMT -5
Still think Ryo and Yuuji have a good chance if they can actually make it to Stage 3. You forgot to add that it's arsenette's fault they can't make it to Stage 3.
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Post by lightningmatt on Mar 4, 2017 18:00:32 GMT -5
did i miss something? why?
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Post by DonalM on Mar 4, 2017 18:03:48 GMT -5
did i miss something? why? It's sarcasm
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Post by gt4dom on Mar 4, 2017 19:01:26 GMT -5
I think it's gonna be someone who hasn't competed yet, back in 20 we didn't think that Yuuji was going to win in 24 so I could see in 4 tournaments time it's someone who we haven't seen compete before.
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Post by lightningmatt on Mar 4, 2017 20:39:05 GMT -5
or maybe it's sato jun. that means he's achieving it in 35. enjoy our last 3 tournaments! XD although you do have a point. nagano didn't appear until... 11 or 12? i dont remember. akiyama wasn't in 1, and even then not perceived as serious cause that's reserved for final stage yusuke wasn't serious until 29, maybe 27. so who knows.
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Post by TCM on Mar 4, 2017 22:43:27 GMT -5
Akiyama had a reputation in Banzuke (that's why he got #100) but him timing out in the exact same spot back-to-back made him a sleeper competitor. Nagano debuted in 7 but got cut, and like Akiyama, timed out in the same spot back-to-back and suddenly flourished in 9. But Nagano by his win was the competitor most expected to win; you'd expect it after 4 (at the time) attempts at the Final Stage. Yuuji was cut/shown on Sasuke Maniac for his debut but as the only person in Shin-Sasuke to get to the Final multiple times, plus him being seen as the new generation's leader, again, by the time he got his win he had the reputation.
Yusuke's probably the most interesting case. Started at 15, one of the few survivors from 19's Jumping Spider, was a 5-time competitor by 27 (his first clear) but was digested twice (after being cut his previous two attempts). So for a lot of us, 29 seemed sudden. But like with his video package in 31, he's been preparing for this his whole life. He wasn't just an incredibly athletic person like Akiyama, or someone with a ton of experience to prepare him like Nagano. He's similar to Yuuji in that he's a well prepared superfan but even Yuuji took ten years to get on Sasuke. He beat a taller final than Nagano's, virtually as fast as him, on his first try at it like Akiyama. Not to mention only just entering his mid-20s. He's in his prime, but if the previous champions are any indication, we may see his post-champion struggles sooner than later.
I don't know if there's a current prevailing narrative. 32 could be an anomaly or maybe the current top group have hit their ceiling. Guys like Anatase and Suzuki prove there ARE newer competitors who can break out but with how the current Stage 3 is, we expect it to be someone who is either explicitly trained for the current configuration of obstacles or someone with extensive climbing experience. Drew beat the hardest Cliffhanger ever on its first appearance but he immediately failed right afterward. Personally, I'm like others who wouldn't be surprised if Drew keeps being able to compete, that we see our first foreign winner. He's prone to mental lapses on the course though. Ideally, I'd like one of the current core group win, because that would be a more fitting end if they decide to end the show after the 5th winner.
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Post by lightningmatt on Mar 5, 2017 18:36:47 GMT -5
Although it would actually be cool if Sato Jun wins. Kind of like Yusuje, but better, because they will digest him over and over, then we see his First Stage run and everyone goes "yep he won" that would be really be awesome. XD
But to be serious, not taking into account new people, i'd say Drew. But I voted Tomo cause that would be a better end (plus he has a chance too)
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Post by parkourlikeaturethug on Mar 8, 2017 19:03:08 GMT -5
Drew
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Post by komasixx on Mar 9, 2017 18:53:29 GMT -5
Lol don't use so many sentences, how am I supposed to read all of that?
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Post by Eclipse on Mar 9, 2017 23:27:23 GMT -5
Although it would actually be cool if Sato Jun wins. Kind of like Yusuje, but better, because they will digest him over and over, then we see his First Stage run and everyone goes "yep he won" that would be really be awesome. XD But to be serious, not taking into account new people, i'd say Drew. But I voted Tomo cause that would be a better end (plus he has a chance too) I'm not convinced yet Tomo can do it. In the two Final Stage runs I have seen him do, neither was very close to victory. He might have Stage 1-3 but I am not too sure he can do Stage 4
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Mar 10, 2017 3:16:13 GMT -5
Wait when did Tomo do 2 final stages? He's only been there once (SASUKE 30) as far as I remember.
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Post by Paragus on Mar 10, 2017 9:07:27 GMT -5
Wait when did Tomo do 2 final stages? He's only been there once (SASUKE 30) as far as I remember. He reached the Final in Sasuke Viet Nam.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Mar 10, 2017 13:53:29 GMT -5
Wait when did Tomo do 2 final stages? He's only been there once (SASUKE 30) as far as I remember. He reached the Final in Sasuke Viet Nam. Ah ok. Didn't see that.
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Post by Eclipse on Mar 10, 2017 19:01:17 GMT -5
He reached the Final in Sasuke Viet Nam. Ah ok. Didn't see that. Allow me to provide slightly more context on the run and my opinion: For Sasuke Viet Nam, the International Special is between Stages 1&2. Instead of predetermined teams, the teams are comprised of the fastest Stage 1 Runs. The exception to this was that in Season 2 (which filmed about 3-4 weeks before Sasuke 32), Tomo was flown in and given an auto-spot for the Vs. Special, but didn't compete in the actual event. Now, in regards to "reaching" the Final Stage, one member of each team was chosen to do Stage 4, regardless of their previous performance. Tomo did blow away the first 3 stages, but he likely was going to run Stage 4 even if he had not. The two other Stage 4 competitors in the Vs special (David Campbell and Le Thuc) did not clear the previous stages, so "reach" might not be the best term. Where this affects my opinion, is that this filmed nearly two years after Sasuke 30, when Tomo really broke out and because a top competitor. Why this is concerning is he only did marginally better in Viet Nam than he did in 30, and that was entirely due to improved Spider Climb, with almost no perceived difference in rope skill. Considering the 2 year gap and the fact he stepped up his training, this indicates to me that he isn't properly training rope climbs like he should if he wants to win, or he has a real weakness/kryptonite with Stage 4. And that, is why I do not believe Tomo will win. Don't get me wrong, I really like him a lot! But objectively speaking, he has a longer way to go yet. There are several other competitors, who given a try at Stage 4 could win right there, whereas Tomo I think has some serious Stage 4 training he needs to do, even if he can destroy Stage 1-3
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Mar 10, 2017 19:14:16 GMT -5
Allow me to provide slightly more context on the run and my opinion: For Sasuke Viet Nam, the International Special is between Stages 1&2. Instead of predetermined teams, the teams are comprised of the fastest Stage 1 Runs. The exception to this was that in Season 2 (which filmed about 3-4 weeks before Sasuke 32), Tomo was flown in and given an auto-spot for the Vs. Special, but didn't compete in the actual event. Now, in regards to "reaching" the Final Stage, one member of each team was chosen to do Stage 4, regardless of their previous performance. Tomo did blow away the first 3 stages, but he likely was going to run Stage 4 even if he had not. The two other Stage 4 competitors in the Vs special (David Campbell and Le Thuc) did not clear the previous stages, so "reach" might not be the best term. Where this affects my opinion, is that this filmed nearly two years after Sasuke 30, when Tomo really broke out and because a top competitor. Why this is concerning is he only did marginally better in Viet Nam than he did in 30, and that was entirely due to improved Spider Climb, with almost no perceived difference in rope skill. Considering the 2 year gap and the fact he stepped up his training, this indicates to me that he isn't properly training rope climbs like he should if he wants to win, or he has a real weakness/kryptonite with Stage 4. And that, is why I do not believe Tomo will win. Don't get me wrong, I really like him a lot! But objectively speaking, he has a longer way to go yet. There are several other competitors, who given a try at Stage 4 could win right there, whereas Tomo I think has some serious Stage 4 training he needs to do, even if he can destroy Stage 1-3 I see. Yeah SASUKE Vietnam isn't exactly SASUKE that he knows it as so the final stage could easily be made a tad easier (materials and weather, stuff like that). I did vote for Tomohiro since he's made solid runs since his return in SASUKE 30 but maybe I've been blind. I can imagine Drew winning but I can pray for others to come out of nowhere and win. Maybe Hioki?
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Post by Eclipse on Mar 10, 2017 19:37:33 GMT -5
Allow me to provide slightly more context on the run and my opinion: For Sasuke Viet Nam, the International Special is between Stages 1&2. Instead of predetermined teams, the teams are comprised of the fastest Stage 1 Runs. The exception to this was that in Season 2 (which filmed about 3-4 weeks before Sasuke 32), Tomo was flown in and given an auto-spot for the Vs. Special, but didn't compete in the actual event. Now, in regards to "reaching" the Final Stage, one member of each team was chosen to do Stage 4, regardless of their previous performance. Tomo did blow away the first 3 stages, but he likely was going to run Stage 4 even if he had not. The two other Stage 4 competitors in the Vs special (David Campbell and Le Thuc) did not clear the previous stages, so "reach" might not be the best term. Where this affects my opinion, is that this filmed nearly two years after Sasuke 30, when Tomo really broke out and because a top competitor. Why this is concerning is he only did marginally better in Viet Nam than he did in 30, and that was entirely due to improved Spider Climb, with almost no perceived difference in rope skill. Considering the 2 year gap and the fact he stepped up his training, this indicates to me that he isn't properly training rope climbs like he should if he wants to win, or he has a real weakness/kryptonite with Stage 4. And that, is why I do not believe Tomo will win. Don't get me wrong, I really like him a lot! But objectively speaking, he has a longer way to go yet. There are several other competitors, who given a try at Stage 4 could win right there, whereas Tomo I think has some serious Stage 4 training he needs to do, even if he can destroy Stage 1-3 I see. Yeah SASUKE Vietnam isn't exactly SASUKE that he knows it as so the final stage could easily be made a tad easier (materials and weather, stuff like that). I did vote for Tomohiro since he's made solid runs since his return in SASUKE 30 but maybe I've been blind. I can imagine Drew winning but I can pray for others to come out of nowhere and win. Maybe Hioki? Oh I agree about his incredibly solid runs. Currently, I'd say he has one the higher chances of returning to Stage 4, it's just his Stage 4 ability that worries me, but he could totally prove me wrong as well.
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Post by wolf4537 on Mar 13, 2017 15:53:52 GMT -5
Drew needs to win it all at this point. The guy has worked so hard to get where he is, and I REALLY want him to go all the way!!!
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Post by Season 16 Hopeful on Mar 16, 2017 10:07:14 GMT -5
i don't think anyone will do it anytime soon so nobody on this list
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