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Post by komasixx on Feb 14, 2017 14:28:33 GMT -5
Who do you think can possibly defeat Sasuke in its current state? Why?
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Post by m4tt3r0x on Feb 14, 2017 16:13:46 GMT -5
Yusuke or Drew for me. More partial to Yusuke so I put him. 0 shot for everyone else on the list IMO, and I don't see Ryo doing it either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 16:18:01 GMT -5
Yusuke he's got the strength to do it again...
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Post by SRW on Feb 14, 2017 16:57:27 GMT -5
MORIMOTO again tbh
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on Feb 14, 2017 19:25:16 GMT -5
I put my faith in Tomohiro.
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Post by yamfriend on Feb 14, 2017 20:29:35 GMT -5
I picked "Other" based upon the trend which has occurred throughout much of SASUKE. We tend to favorite the most recent champion as the next person who shall win, but in the end a new person emerges part of the way through the new era and ultimately is the one who rises to the top (save Yuuji's second Kanzenseiha, in SASUKE 27):
After SASUKE 3, Yamada was expected to become the first winner in the next tournament. Instead, Akiyama (a man who hadn't previously made it out of the Second Stage) defeats the whole course.
After his Kanzenseiha in SASUKE 4, Akiyama was expected for a while to make a repeat performance (most notably before 6 and after 11/12), but as the era went on it became more and more apparent that many other individuals were capable of doing so, and in some cases were even more likely than him. In the end, Nagano (who never even competed until SASUKE 7) was the one who claimed SASUKE's second victory.
After his Kanzenseiha in SASUKE 17, Nagano continued to be most people's top pick to claim Kanzenseiha yet again, and proved his ability to do so across much of Shin-SASUKE. However, between a shocking failure in a heavily-anticipated tourney and the rise of a new group of younger competitors, it turned out that Urushihara would win despite only first competing halfway through the era.
Upon the revival of SASUKE in the 28th tournament, Yuuji, Ryo, Kanno, and many other veteran Shin Sedai showed the most promise at being the first to clear the CCH and beyond. At the time, little did many people even remember Morimoto, the 15-year-old who cleared the Jumping Spider in SASUKE 19. It wasn't until his Stage 1 clear in SASUKE 27 that many of us knew he was still competing, and his incredible abilities were displayed even more so in SASUKE 29 when he outlasted everyone else in the tournament. A young man who wasn't even in the first SASUKE RISING tourney turned out to be the one who became SASUKE's fourth Grand Champion.
In short, I have no idea as to who the next champion will be (if there even is one), but for all we know it could be either someone brand-new to SASUKE (and may have not even competed yet) or a former competitor who hasn't shined brightly yet. Sure, Morimoto and Drew are two of the most likely contenders as of right now, but that is far from certain. For all we know, there could be a new face we see in 33 who has a legitimate shot at Kanzenseiha.
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Post by DonalM on Feb 14, 2017 20:54:27 GMT -5
I picked "Other" based upon the trend which has occurred throughout much of SASUKE. We tend to favorite the most recent champion as the next person who shall win, but in the end a new person emerges part of the way through the new era and ultimately is the one who rises to the top (save Yuuji's second Kanzenseiha, in SASUKE 27): After SASUKE 3, Yamada was expected to become the first winner in the next tournament. Instead, Akiyama (a man who hadn't previously made it out of the Second Stage) defeats the whole course. After his Kanzenseiha in SASUKE 4, Akiyama was expected for a while to make a repeat performance (most notably before 6 and after 11/12), but as the era went on it became more and more apparent that many other individuals were capable of doing so, and in some cases were even more likely than him. In the end, Nagano (who never even competed until SASUKE 7) was the one who claimed SASUKE's second victory. After his Kanzenseiha in SASUKE 17, Nagano continued to be most people's top pick to claim Kanzenseiha yet again, and proved his ability to do so across much of Shin-SASUKE. However, between a shocking failure in a heavily-anticipated tourney and the rise of a new group of younger competitors, it turned out that Urushihara would win despite only first competing halfway through the era. Upon the revival of SASUKE in the 28th tournament, Yuuji, Ryo, Kanno, and many other veteran Shin Sedai showed the most promise at being the first to clear the CCH and beyond. At the time, little did many people even remember Morimoto, the 15-year-old who cleared the Jumping Spider in SASUKE 19. It wasn't until his Stage 1 clear in SASUKE 27 that many of us knew he was still competing, and his incredible abilities were displayed even more so in SASUKE 29 when he outlasted everyone else in the tournament. A young man who wasn't even in the first SASUKE RISING tourney turned out to be the one who became SASUKE's fourth Grand Champion. In short, I have no idea as to who the next champion will be (if there even is one), but for all we know it could be either someone brand-new to SASUKE (and may have not even competed yet) or a former competitor who hasn't shined brightly yet. Sure, Morimoto and Drew are two of the most likely contenders as of right now, but that is far from certain. For all we know, there could be a new face we see in 33 who has a legitimate shot at Kanzenseiha. I agree-with the state of the third stage now, who knows when someone will clear it; when it happens, I expect 1 or 2 new superstars to have emerged.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Feb 14, 2017 21:02:06 GMT -5
I'm with yamfriend on this but if I had to choose between the current roster then my answer would be: Noone's currently the best.
Morimoto is a student of the show, he has a tiny body that can fly him through the 3rd Stage and he's the current champion, just not as popular as the previous ones, something that will help him alot when it comes to pressure.
Drechsel is a beast of nature and physically by far the best out there. He doesn't have Kishimoto's biceps or Akiyama's core but his technique and his sheer willpower is just amazing to watch. As long as he keeps his composure and keeps clearing Stages 1 & 2 he'll get to the tower sooner or later and he'll have a great chance at this.
Kawaguchi seems in the best form compared to his mates Kanno (who has recurring shoulder injuries and strangely enough he never seemed like Kanzenseiha material to me), Urushihara (who's been absolutely terrible after SASUKE 28. He's almost 38 now so this will only make things more complicated. I'm pretty sure that he still has it but he needs to get the pieces together and start delivering results), Asa (who's body just not what it takes for Stage 3 to be completed) and Ryo (who has insane potential but not enough mojo as it seems) as it he seems calm, he has the expertise needed to clear the first 3 stages and hopefully he has practiced the Stage 4 obstacles now and he'll be more ready. He's 35 now though so clock's ticking.
Last but not least I'd put Jun Sato on that list. Kid's future ahead of him.
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Post by DonalM on Feb 14, 2017 21:35:41 GMT -5
I'm with yamfriend on this but if I had to choose between the current roster then my answer would be: Noone's currently the best. Morimoto is a student of the show, he has a tiny body that can fly him through the 3rd Stage and he's the current champion, just not as popular as the previous ones, something that will help him alot when it comes to pressure. Drechsel is a beast of nature and physically by far the best out there. He doesn't have Kishimoto's biceps or Akiyama's core but his technique and his sheer willpower is just amazing to watch. As long as he keeps his composure and keeps clearing Stages 1 & 2 he'll get to the tower sooner or later and he'll have a great chance at this. Kawaguchi seems in the best form compared to his mates Kanno (who has recurring shoulder injuries and strangely enough he never seemed like Kanzenseiha material to me), Urushihara (who's been absolutely terrible after SASUKE 28. He's almost 38 now so this will only make things more complicated. I'm pretty sure that he still has it but he needs to get the pieces together and start delivering results), Asa (who's body just not what it takes for Stage 3 to be completed) and Ryo (who has insane potential but not enough mojo as it seems) as it he seems calm, he has the expertise needed to clear the first 3 stages and hopefully he has practiced the Stage 4 obstacles now and he'll be more ready. He's 35 now though so clock's ticking. Last but not least I'd put Jun Sato on that list. Kid's future ahead of him. Ryo's 27
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Post by Paragus on Feb 14, 2017 21:49:08 GMT -5
I'm with yamfriend on this but if I had to choose between the current roster then my answer would be: Noone's currently the best. Morimoto is a student of the show, he has a tiny body that can fly him through the 3rd Stage and he's the current champion, just not as popular as the previous ones, something that will help him alot when it comes to pressure. Drechsel is a beast of nature and physically by far the best out there. He doesn't have Kishimoto's biceps or Akiyama's core but his technique and his sheer willpower is just amazing to watch. As long as he keeps his composure and keeps clearing Stages 1 & 2 he'll get to the tower sooner or later and he'll have a great chance at this. Kawaguchi seems in the best form compared to his mates Kanno (who has recurring shoulder injuries and strangely enough he never seemed like Kanzenseiha material to me), Urushihara (who's been absolutely terrible after SASUKE 28. He's almost 38 now so this will only make things more complicated. I'm pretty sure that he still has it but he needs to get the pieces together and start delivering results), Asa (who's body just not what it takes for Stage 3 to be completed) and Ryo (who has insane potential but not enough mojo as it seems) as it he seems calm, he has the expertise needed to clear the first 3 stages and hopefully he has practiced the Stage 4 obstacles now and he'll be more ready. He's 35 now though so clock's ticking. Last but not least I'd put Jun Sato on that list. Kid's future ahead of him. Ryo's 27 He was talking about Asa. I know, it's pretty confusing
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Post by Klorel439 on Feb 14, 2017 22:02:13 GMT -5
I'm going with Drew. He's incredibly talented, and he only failed in 32 because he ran out of powder. I think he has a real shot at it.
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Post by Y on Feb 14, 2017 22:27:22 GMT -5
He was talking about Asa. I know, it's pretty confusing He's actually talking about Tomo, who is 35.
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Post by DonalM on Feb 14, 2017 22:34:36 GMT -5
He was talking about Asa. I know, it's pretty confusing He's actually talking about Tomo, who is 35. Actually he's talking about Morimoto.
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Post by Geoffnotjeff on Feb 14, 2017 22:38:11 GMT -5
Stage 4 is incredibly hard. No one has ever had to race a clock on a salmon ladder before, and i think people underestimate that. Stage 3 is very beatable, comes down to a bit of luck, and strong fingers + endurance. None of the top guys look at that and say, that's impossible! its not =)
Stage 4 is much harder imo. Racing up the spider climb, not so bad, tick tick. Then your on a salmon ladder. Who knows what the total time will be, but yull have to be MOVING to do it. Salmon ladders are fairly easy, but easy, so easy to make mistakes on. Speed kills and its going to be impressive seeing anyone go up 15 rungs with speed under that kind of pressure. Id wager youll see falls on it the first couple of attempts.
Then the rope, yada yada. Get there with enough time and you shouldnt fail.
Drew can do it, and im sure yuskue can as well. Hopefully we get to see them do it =))
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Post by komasixx on Feb 15, 2017 7:06:12 GMT -5
Stage 4 is incredibly hard. No one has ever had to race a clock on a salmon ladder before, and i think people underestimate that. Stage 3 is very beatable, comes down to a bit of luck, and strong fingers + endurance. None of the top guys look at that and say, that's impossible! its not =) Stage 4 is much harder imo. Racing up the spider climb, not so bad, tick tick. Then your on a salmon ladder. Who knows what the total time will be, but yull have to be MOVING to do it. Salmon ladders are fairly easy, but easy, so easy to make mistakes on. Speed kills and its going to be impressive seeing anyone go up 15 rungs with speed under that kind of pressure. Id wager youll see falls on it the first couple of attempts. Then the rope, yada yada. Get there with enough time and you shouldnt fail. Drew can do it, and im sure yuskue can as well. Hopefully we get to see them do it =)) Good to know you think Drew can do this too. I mean I'm sure drew probably gets super close if not makes it to the tower this tournament. I just think whoever does complete this tower would have to try it once or twice, and that means getting there.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Feb 15, 2017 9:01:33 GMT -5
He's actually talking about Tomo, who is 35. Actually he's talking about Morimoto. Αctuall I thought that my text would make sense more easily.
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Post by johnboy on Feb 15, 2017 9:14:33 GMT -5
i went with drew, i just dont think anyone bar him will beat the course. i did think morimoto but i just think drew is too well practiced
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Post by Steven π on Feb 15, 2017 9:59:40 GMT -5
I picked "Other" based upon the trend which has occurred throughout much of SASUKE. We tend to favorite the most recent champion as the next person who shall win, but in the end a new person emerges part of the way through the new era and ultimately is the one who rises to the top (save Yuuji's second Kanzenseiha, in SASUKE 27): After SASUKE 3, Yamada was expected to become the first winner in the next tournament. Instead, Akiyama (a man who hadn't previously made it out of the Second Stage) defeats the whole course. After his Kanzenseiha in SASUKE 4, Akiyama was expected for a while to make a repeat performance (most notably before 6 and after 11/12), but as the era went on it became more and more apparent that many other individuals were capable of doing so, and in some cases were even more likely than him. In the end, Nagano (who never even competed until SASUKE 7) was the one who claimed SASUKE's second victory. After his Kanzenseiha in SASUKE 17, Nagano continued to be most people's top pick to claim Kanzenseiha yet again, and proved his ability to do so across much of Shin-SASUKE. However, between a shocking failure in a heavily-anticipated tourney and the rise of a new group of younger competitors, it turned out that Urushihara would win despite only first competing halfway through the era. Upon the revival of SASUKE in the 28th tournament, Yuuji, Ryo, Kanno, and many other veteran Shin Sedai showed the most promise at being the first to clear the CCH and beyond. At the time, little did many people even remember Morimoto, the 15-year-old who cleared the Jumping Spider in SASUKE 19. It wasn't until his Stage 1 clear in SASUKE 27 that many of us knew he was still competing, and his incredible abilities were displayed even more so in SASUKE 29 when he outlasted everyone else in the tournament. A young man who wasn't even in the first SASUKE RISING tourney turned out to be the one who became SASUKE's fourth Grand Champion. In short, I have no idea as to who the next champion will be (if there even is one), but for all we know it could be either someone brand-new to SASUKE (and may have not even competed yet) or a former competitor who hasn't shined brightly yet. Sure, Morimoto and Drew are two of the most likely contenders as of right now, but that is far from certain. For all we know, there could be a new face we see in 33 who has a legitimate shot at Kanzenseiha. Sir yamfriend I tipped my hat
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Post by Steven π on Feb 15, 2017 10:04:41 GMT -5
For the other pick because I have faith in some rookies (veterans) like Yamamoto Hiroshige or Ryoichi Tsukada (lol maybe not). Like yamfriend, many ninjas did good before usually perform bad in next tournaments (expect Yuuji for 2x Kanzenseiha, 24 and 27, even fail in 25 and 26 early) And I don't have any hope/faith in Yusuke (sorry bro) and even Drew. Because the history of Sasuke has proven it. Drew is good but I think he should be in ANW and master it.
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Post by komasixx on Feb 15, 2017 14:11:55 GMT -5
I honestly pick Drew to defeat it next.
But I have to ask the rest of you who voted Drew, do you THINK he can beat it, or do you just WANT him to.
Just wondering, it's both for me.
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