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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 12, 2008 13:22:31 GMT -5
That the Ninja Warrior at G4 was getting pretty lively, then this place came along, G4's has died down to a couple posts a day and now we got tons here.
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Post by kazuhikoakiyamafan on Sept 12, 2008 14:59:26 GMT -5
I kinda figured that would happen.
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Post by Jhonsun on Sept 12, 2008 15:13:43 GMT -5
That the Ninja Warrior at G4 was getting pretty lively, then this place came along, G4's has died down to a couple posts a day and now we got tons here. Yeah, it's hard to divide up your time between two different boards on the same subject, especially when you know that most of the same people are on both boards (or will be ) This board lets you talk about Sasuke 21 in between now and mid-November. I like both of the boards but I want to watch Sasuke 21 (the whole thing) and be able to talk about it too. I'm sorry to say that if G4 won't create a place for that (to deal with the realistic expectations of fans) then someone else has to. I think that G4 would be happy if none of us even knew about the TBS broadcasts though. They want all the "Ninja Warrior" action for themselves.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 12, 2008 15:23:09 GMT -5
Plus they're making everyone wait until november, it doesn't take that long to butcher a show.
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Post by Jhonsun on Sept 12, 2008 15:37:28 GMT -5
Plus they're making everyone wait until november, it doesn't take that long to butcher a show. Yeah, for sure. TBS does all of the hard work and they have it done in 10 days. They must have 5 different cameras just on the course itself (and another 5 more for crowd/reaction shots and interviews). They have to go through an enormous amount of footage to piece together a 4 hour show. Who knows how long G4 spends? To be charitable, I guess it depends on when the TBS footage becomes available for purchase to other markets. From there, they need a translator, a copy writer, voice-over work, graphics, and a little more segment editing. I would think it would take a month tops but they have their other Ninjafest shows to produce as well as the resources spread out to the other shows in their line-up. I get the impression that even with all of that, they could get it out sooner but they have ratings tent-poles that they like to have for each quarter and if they stretch the timeline a bit, Ninja Warrior fits nicely into that post "Summer" ratings period. Like I said, give me the TBS broadcast next week and a couple of months of discussion on a restrictions-free message board with other enthusiasts and G4 can release it in November. I just think they are failing to capitalize on this sensation. Heck, they covered Comic-Con '08 and E3 live as it was happening.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 12, 2008 16:09:51 GMT -5
So why can't they send their own cameramen over there to get a few runs as a Ninja Warrior Preview Special for each tournament.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 12, 2008 16:30:24 GMT -5
Because expect too much from G4? I mean c'mon.. after the disaster with the "voting" in AN"C"3 (no offense to the chose.. I'm complaining about the process.. I don't hate the poor people involved in the whole thing)... I mean there was no Challenge to it.. they really skimped on that.. heck.. don't bother with it at all..
As for the MASS EXODUS from G4.. it was inevitable. I'm quite happy with it only because it proves if given the opportunity to show Sasuke vs. Ninja Warrior.. hands down.. People would pick the quality of video provided to subtitling.. granted knowing what's going on is important.. but showing an entire show is a lot more rewarding.
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Post by Jhonsun on Sept 12, 2008 16:45:22 GMT -5
So why can't they send their own cameramen over there to get a few runs as a Ninja Warrior Preview Special for each tournament. They could (and should) just buy the complete footage from TBS without sending their own people to Japan. Of course, G4 did have their cameras there, but not for that reason. They'll be getting footage for their Ninjafest shows and it would be redundant to have their cameramen on the course where TBS already does it so well. A preview special? That usually airs right before the Ninja Warrior broadcast anyways and focuses on the ANC winners. I'm guessing their expanded coverage will include several more segments with Kevin and Olivia -their antics in Japan type stuff - hopefully it won't take away from the ANC winners' journeys or behind-the-scenes footage. I can't imagine another special between now and then that just shows a few course runs though. We should probably start a new thread for discussion about what G4's Ninja Warrior coverage will be like. Maybe I'll start one on the G4 board.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 12, 2008 16:56:59 GMT -5
I was meaning showing select runs from a G4 Cameraman to tide the G4 watchers over shown a few months before just to tide everyone who can't see the TBS Broadcast over.
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Post by jcdenton on Sept 12, 2008 17:12:25 GMT -5
I was hoping it would happen, I'm glad it did
I like how this is a board focused just on Sasuke, unlike being a subforum
Also we don't have to be under the watchful G4 eye...
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Post by Jhonsun on Sept 12, 2008 17:14:05 GMT -5
I was meaning showing select runs from a G4 Cameraman to tide the G4 watchers over shown a few months before just to tide everyone who can't see the TBS Broadcast over. You must mean course runs that they would eventually end up showing in their own November broadcast. Why not just purchase the footage already taken by the expert TBS crew? New forum thread about G4's Ninjafest 3 coverage (predictions, etc.) here: forums.g4tv.com/thread.jspa?threadID=47882&tstart=0We can start one here too if you all like, but I expect this thread to generate many comments where people will express pessimism and dissatisfaction - comments that G4 needs to hear.
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Post by scnoi1217 on Sept 12, 2008 17:30:31 GMT -5
I don't think TBS allows anyone to all that footage, which includes G4. They usually give out a 2 hr block of footage to any foreign company. The other footage remains in the Japanese broadcast. I'm not sure, but I think Sasuke 20 was different since our friends in Taiwan saw most of the TBS broadcast when it was broadcast on JET TV. However, they got an even worse deal than G4 did. G4 showed it in May (2 months after TBS), while JET TV saw it in late June (3 months after TBS), but at least they saw most of the footage.
My biggest complaint with Ninjafest 2 was the amount of footage they showed. One, it was all about the ANC, unlike other broadcasts. Plus, they only showed roughly 88 minutes of actual footage. Now, compare that with the 4 hour TBS broadcast, and you have a huge contrast between the two.
Back on topic, I'm glad that this board was opened up. I hope that it can continue to Ninjafest 3 in November and I hope that it could potentially go on past that.
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Post by arsenette on Sept 12, 2008 17:30:56 GMT -5
G4 has their heads so far up their rear ends they don't care.. seriously they don't care for the feedback.
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Post by SuperTiger on Sept 13, 2008 10:21:23 GMT -5
G4 has serious problems, i think we all know that, they think they can satisfy everyone with their americanized versions, but evntually they won't be able to, because the amount of people that know about the TBS versions will increase and then G4 will have to do something because their ratings will drop. It's only a matter of time before G4's process is done in, and eventually it will have to air at a more decent time here.
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Post by Jhonsun on Sept 14, 2008 2:54:26 GMT -5
G4 has serious problems, i think we all know that, they think they can satisfy everyone with their americanized versions, but evntually they won't be able to, because the amount of people that know about the TBS versions will increase and then G4 will have to do something because their ratings will drop. It's only a matter of time before G4's process is done in, and eventually it will have to air at a more decent time here. Unfortunately, I think they know that we are all going to watch their Ninja Warrior broadcast too.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Sept 14, 2008 11:01:16 GMT -5
Yup. And that would suck if they stopped showing it so people in america won't have Sasuke. Plus we can't see it on TV unless we use a DVD burner or go to Youtube on the Wii browser or something.
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Post by Yojimbo on Sept 16, 2008 17:17:58 GMT -5
What I fear most is that G4 will destroy all that makes Sasuke so great. I going to write the S word so brace yourself. many competitors in Sasuke up to this point are on a spiritual journey. You can see it especially from those who have dedicated all their LIFE to it, which I dont see as a rediculous dream. This struggle is what attracted me so much to it.
There are no guarantees
Industrailism and american consumerism will destroy this essence if TBS allows it.
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Post by Homeslice on Sept 16, 2008 20:20:20 GMT -5
G4 has their heads so far up their rear ends they don't care.. seriously they don't care for the feedback. ;D Truer words never spoken! A shame, really, but G4 started showing us that they didn't care when they decided to become another Spike TV (granted, this show is not about video games but it's excellent nonetheless and I enjoy watching it).
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Post by sasuke1247 on Nov 2, 2008 18:01:16 GMT -5
I know i might be late but the reason G4 dosn't send camera's to japan is because you have to be freinds or family. They get almost the whole fotage and cut it down. for somereson I keep thinking Kevin owns G4.lol. All the footage we have comes from tbs. And ever thought who is bing stupider in brodcasting Sasuke, G4 or Tbs. I wanna say Tbs but you know wat g4 did to the show.
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Post by bigblind168 on Nov 2, 2008 19:19:15 GMT -5
I know i might be late but the reason G4 dosn't send camera's to japan is because you have to be freinds or family. to be @ the taping u have 2 be friends or family of one of contestants!?
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