The UCCH+VLK Combo (Spoilers Likely)

[yamfriend]

SASUKE 32 is a few months old, but the idea of completing the Ultra Crazy Cliffhanger (and then going straight into the Vertical Limit Kai) stills seems just as menacing as when we first saw it. The amount of grip strength and endurance needed to clear both of these obstacles without rest is, without a doubt, the most difficult combo ever seen on SASUKE (and possibly even any of its international spin-offs). That being said, who do you believe is currently capable of beating it? These predictions can include anyone related to SASUKE and/or any foreign versions, past or present.

I'm honestly not 100% sure that anyone can do it currently, especially when considering the initial transition from the UCCH to the VLK as well as the two subsequent ledge transitions within the VLK (IIRC the VLK now has three ledges). If I had to give a top 3, I'd probably say Ryo, Miska (from Finland), and Morimoto.

[DonalM]

Just that combo? Probably Geoff and Morimoto.
With the rest of Stage 3? No one realistically competing on Sasuke.

[Paragus]

Geoff, Morimoto, and Ryo probably have the best shot.

[DacTracked]

Geoff and Morimoto I know will get it down.

[LusitaniaAngel313]

like most others are saying, Ryo and Morimoto. Others? I can't say but I can somewhat imagine Drew nailing it the 2nd try. Others will learn. Kanno and Asa especially. Hioki to a lesser extent.

[TCM]

This was part of my concern about it, because the first gap is going to trip people up, case in point Brent and Suzuki (granted they've never tried it before then). I always thought the first gap should be a little closer since the point of the obstacle is the mech ledge. At the same time, if you can get the first gap, surely the second should be as probable.


I'm also not quite sure someone has it anytime soon.

[jba392]

Geoff, Drew, Morimoto, Isaac, and maybe even Ryo seem like good bets to get it eventually. Drew trains so relentlessly and is just getting better and better while the others have proven their otherworldly grip strength. There's videos of Geoff and Yusuke doing some incredible things on a VL.

[yamfriend]

Okay, I retract my opinion of anyone currently being able to clear it---I didn't realize the ridiculous distance between the second and third ledges until just now (I previously thought it was the same distance between each of the ledges). What the actual f***. o____O

[notamulti]

W........w.w.why are there three ledges.......... I thought there were only 2................. madness

[OwlRTA]

Oct 29, 2016 19:23:17 GMT -5 yamfriend said:

Okay, I retract my opinion of anyone currently being able to clear it---I didn't realize the ridiculous distance between the second and third ledges until just now (I previously thought it was the same distance between each of the ledges). What the actual f***. o____O

WOW. I didn't notice that before. I still think Geoff can do it if he does his motions perfectly. Any wasted energy, and he falls

[arsenette]

Weird.. I thought they were static. I think the camera angle is causing an optical illusion.

[Alzy]

Does anyone know the exact distance of the gap between the second and third ledges? If the first gap is 30cm then the other one looks at least 50-60cm, maybe more. I don't think anyone right now can complete it after everything else before it but if anyone can do it I think Morimoto and Geoff definitely have the best chance.

[LusitaniaAngel313]

I saw a video of Morimoto making a jump on a replica vertical limit so I think he can technically do it IF! He didn't have 4 obstacles previously... So honestly I think it's flat out impossible for now.

[arsenette]

Didn't they specifically state it in the broadcast? Too lazy to check right now.

[yamfriend]

I don't know if they ever stated the exact measurements of the Vertical Limit Kai in either the Navi (which the screenshot I linked is from) or the main broadcast of 32, but it definitely looks like the second gap is substantially larger than the first one. I'm certain that none of the VLK ledges move, and at the end of Drew's failure replay you can once again see the large distance between the second and third ledges from a similar camera angle as the other screenshot. As arsenette mentioned earlier though, the fact that the last ledge is slightly closer to the camera might be presenting the illusion that the second gap seems larger than it actually is.

[TCM]

They are indeed static, each section shares one bit of scaffolding to secure them (the last edge of the first, the entire small middle piece and the beginning edge of the last one). Whether they were revealed in the broadcast or Navi I'm not sure but I know Inui/Sasuke's Twitter pages did reveal the first gap between the first and second is 30 cm and the gap between the second and third is 60 cm. So your eyes/the angle aren't playing tricks on you, they have to reach basically two feet to reach the third one.

[arsenette]

Thanks! That is what I was remembering instead. Interesting. Didn't realize it was double the distance. No wonder the tester was slower in that section. LOL

[Eclipse]

Morimoto and Geoff, Drew and Isaac as everyone has said, but also Le Van Thuc from Sasuke Vietnam (if he were invited). He sometimes livestreams his training and he's completed a double crazy transition into VL many times. Not quite as insane as UCC into VLKai but his ease with it makes me think he would be able to do it

I'm not convinced about Ryo but maybe?

[arsenette]

Oct 30, 2016 14:27:20 GMT -5 Eclipse said:

I'm not convinced about Ryo but maybe?

He has to get to it first to even be included in the conversation.

[notamulti]

I would be tempted to say "any good competitor can as long as they build a replica", but seeing Kanno's CCH fails has changed all that for me