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Post by SasukeSprinter2.0 on Jul 3, 2016 11:41:02 GMT -5
Now, this might sound crazy, (pun intended) or it may sound like a no-brainer. But this is a thread to discuss whether or not the new UCCH is harder or not, or to just discuss it in general. Keep in mind, I understand it doesn't really matter, but it's fun to discuss and share your opinion. Another thing, I'm talking about the difficulty of ONLY the (U)CCH. Not about how the competitor goes right into the VL, or the obstacles before it. I, personally, think the Crazy Cliffhanger is harder, as far as surviving it goes. But I think the Ultra Crazy Cliffhanger is more difficult in the aspect of tiring out. It was pretty obvious the gaps were smaller in SASUKE 32 when Drew made both transitions. But be sure to let me know your opinions!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 11:47:36 GMT -5
UCCH because you have to 180 jump twice unlike once with the CCH.
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on Jul 3, 2016 11:53:48 GMT -5
Now, this might sound crazy, (pun intended) or it may sound like a no-brainer. But this is a thread to discuss whether or not the new UCCH is harder or not, or to just discuss it in general. Keep in mind, I understand it doesn't really matter, but it's fun to discuss and share your opinion. Another thing, I'm talking about the difficulty of ONLY the (U)CCH. Not about how the competitor goes right into the VL, or the obstacles before it. I, personally, think the Crazy Cliffhanger is harder, as far as surviving it goes. But I think the Ultra Crazy Cliffhanger is more difficult in the aspect of tiring out. It was pretty obvious the gaps were smaller in SASUKE 32 The gaps seemed the same distance to me...
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Post by Ben Baker on Jul 3, 2016 12:40:48 GMT -5
My personal opinion, the UCCH is good on the difficulty. But no rest between that and the vertical limit is crazy. Especially the gap with the VL . It's going to be a While/if ever that will be completed in series
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Post by SasukeForever on Jul 3, 2016 14:08:46 GMT -5
The difficulty to me is that the UCCH goes straight into Vertical Limit. Add the fact that there's two jumps and UCCH is very tough. I'm shocked Drew beat it
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Post by wolf4537 on Jul 3, 2016 16:01:24 GMT -5
I say that it's really no comparison in terms of which is harder, mainly because of the instant transition to vertical limit on the UCCH.
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Post by Amber on Jul 3, 2016 16:10:23 GMT -5
That's not the question, the question is the cliffhanger. The no resting point doesn't make the UCCH much harder than you may have to waste energy trying to get the timing right for the transition. The vertical limit is it's own separate obstacle and has nothing to do with the UCCH. A question like "Is the Vertical Limit Kai more difficult than the Spider Flip" could be a more suitable question...
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Jul 3, 2016 16:16:22 GMT -5
Drew wanted to redeem himself from last time's fiasco so it's pretty normal to me that he made it this far
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Post by Madze on Jul 4, 2016 4:07:43 GMT -5
Drew beating it was awesome. I was almost sure he was though because i noticed a pattern in cliffhangers. The old cliff hanger with the raised transfer is introduced, then shin cliff comes, and it introduces a new technique required to clear the big transfer. Then uch which is bigger. Then cch which requires the 180 technique. Then bigger with the ucch. You see, its new technique, then make it bigger. Is it harder? Yes. But not by much. In fact the ucch into vl will be mastered A LOT sooner than u think since its not an issue of technique, but endurance which is easier to work on. In fact, i will bet that stage 3 will be cleared in the next tourney.
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Post by Ben Baker on Jul 5, 2016 19:29:26 GMT -5
Drew beating it was awesome. I was almost sure he was though because i noticed a pattern in cliffhangers. The old cliff hanger with the raised transfer is introduced, then shin cliff comes, and it introduces a new technique required to clear the big transfer. Then uch which is bigger. Then cch which requires the 180 technique. Then bigger with the ucch. You see, its new technique, then make it bigger. Is it harder? Yes. But not by much. In fact the ucch into vl will be mastered A LOT sooner than u think since its not an issue of technique, but endurance which is easier to work on. In fact, i will bet that stage 3 will be cleared in the next tourney. I really doubt it will be cleared anytime soon. That vertical limit alone is a grip torture. They made it wayyy to hard. I could possibly see the regular CCH straight into vertical limit. They just went over board though. I do agree with you though, endurance is easy to train but when it comes to extreme upperbody endurance, it's really hard on your body. We aren't talking rock climbing cause they get to use their feet alot. These 2 obstacles are all finger and grip strength with no feet.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Jul 5, 2016 19:50:20 GMT -5
The first jump in the UCC is beatable by those who have trained the Crazy Cliffhanger (Asa, Kanno, Kishimoto, Hioki, Kenji, Yuuji, Ryo etc can clear that one). The next jump is the make or break as the fatigue in the competitors' arms is just a little bit bigger than it was on the previous version. Overall this obstacle looks scary but to be fair, it's pretty ok. If a 1.78m, 72kg guy can beat it then it's acceptable.
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Post by cliffhanger on Jul 6, 2016 2:25:02 GMT -5
The Cliffhanger needs to look harder and harder. But human beings don't evolve that fast, so the Cliffhanger must look harder, but actually be the same difficulty.
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