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Post by PsychoDelusion on Jul 2, 2016 12:30:32 GMT -5
OK I should not get involved here and this probably will cause a s**tstorm but it's got to be said... Ayano did in fact complete the obstacle, but time expired before she completed it so she did not clear the obstacle. She was still in the process of attempting the obstacle as time expired Yes, she is locked into the obstacle and she did make it to the top, but she did run out of time while still attempting the obstacle, and the obstacle is not completed until you actually pop over the top, which she did in fact do, But she did not do it within the time limit. so Oshima Ayano IS the first woman to COMPLETE the Soritatsu Kabe in competition, but Kacy is the first woman to CLEAR the Soritatsu Kabe in competition because she completed the obstacle within the time limit and was able to advance off of the obstacle. I'm going to further explain completing the obstacle and advancing off of it, consider Takeda Toshihiro in Sasuke 19, he did in fact CLEAR the Soritatsu Kabe BUT he still timed out on the path between the Soritatsu Kabe and Flying Chute, but it's not considered failing the Soritatsu Kabe because he did in fact complete the obstacle so as far as the records are he did CLEAR the Soritatsu Kabe. I'm not trying to take away anything from Oshima Ayano because she WAS IN FACT THE FIRST WOMAN TO COMPLETE THE OBSTACLE IN SASUKE COMPETITION, BUT she was still attempting the obstacle as time expired so she technically failed the Soritatsu Kabe as far as competition is concerned BUT she did in fact complete the obstacle I'm sorry if anyone is offended by this post, I'm not trying to cause a $#!+storm, I'm just trying to line up the facts Apologising for stating the obvious? Are these forums that hostile? *rolls eyes* This is the actual truth here. I understand that there are other opinions as well, some biased, some not but the fact is that Kacy is the first one to clear the obstacle in SASUKE. I don't like Kacy or the pointless hype that surrounds her every time but you have to give it to her. I was curious to see how she will fare with a time limit and she didn't disappoint. In fact 95% of the female competitors, clearly are not even trying to advance to Stage 2. They want to go as deep as they can and that's ok. Ayano's and Murofushi's runs are definitely not that different. Both reached the wall with a few seconds left, one half-cleared the obstacle, one didn't. arsenette I undestand where you're coming from and how special SASUKE is for you, but you're trying to cut through the thin line between facts and bias. Saying blunt things as "I don't care what SASUKEpedia says" (which may come because the wikia is kinda filled with inaccuracies and bad grammar but as for the results, the admin is very careful to take care of mistakes) is just not the way to prove your point, sorry. EDIT: This comes from a guy who despises ANW as much as most people do and has criticized their politics on the competition way too many times EDIT No.2: With your thinking we can say that Nagano cleared the Jumping Spider in SASUKE 24, because he made the jump and stuck in the walls? Don't think so
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2016 12:39:24 GMT -5
TBS is the authority of their own show. They have Mika as the first women to ever clear the Warped Wall. They have Ayano the first to do it in competition. PERIOD.
And no he fell in the water. That's a fail whether it is on a timer or not. Time ups are dealt with very very differently.
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Post by yutang68 on Jul 2, 2016 12:39:26 GMT -5
Does anyone have a translation on what was being said during Nagano's fluff piece? We are still talking about Sasuke 32 Navi right? lol
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Post by SolitudeSeeker. on Jul 2, 2016 12:41:37 GMT -5
OK I should not get involved here and this probably will cause a s**tstorm but it's got to be said... Ayano did in fact complete the obstacle, but time expired before she completed it so she did not clear the obstacle. She was still in the process of attempting the obstacle as time expired Yes, she is locked into the obstacle and she did make it to the top, but she did run out of time while still attempting the obstacle, and the obstacle is not completed until you actually pop over the top, which she did in fact do, But she did not do it within the time limit. so Oshima Ayano IS the first woman to COMPLETE the Soritatsu Kabe in competition, but Kacy is the first woman to CLEAR the Soritatsu Kabe in competition because she completed the obstacle within the time limit and was able to advance off of the obstacle. I'm going to further explain completing the obstacle and advancing off of it, consider Takeda Toshihiro in Sasuke 19, he did in fact CLEAR the Soritatsu Kabe BUT he still timed out on the path between the Soritatsu Kabe and Flying Chute, but it's not considered failing the Soritatsu Kabe because he did in fact complete the obstacle so as far as the records are he did CLEAR the Soritatsu Kabe. I'm not trying to take away anything from Oshima Ayano because she WAS IN FACT THE FIRST WOMAN TO COMPLETE THE OBSTACLE IN SASUKE COMPETITION, BUT she was still attempting the obstacle as time expired so she technically failed the Soritatsu Kabe as far as competition is concerned BUT she did in fact complete the obstacle I'm sorry if anyone is offended by this post, I'm not trying to cause a $#!+storm, I'm just trying to line up the facts Apologising for stating the obvious? Are these forums that hostile? *rolls eyes* This is the actual truth here. I understand that there are other opinions as well, some biased, some not but the fact is that Kacy is the first one to clear the obstacle in SASUKE. I don't like Kacy or the pointless hype that surrounds her every time but you have to give it to her. I was curious to see how she will fare with a time limit and she didn't disappoint. In fact 95% of the female competitors, clearly are not even trying to advance to Stage 2. They want to go as deep as they can and that's ok. Ayano's and Murofushi's runs are definitely not that different. Both reached the wall with a few seconds left, one half-cleared the obstacle, one didn't. arsenette I undestand where you're coming from and how special SASUKE is for you, but you're trying to cut through the thin line between facts and bias. Saying blunt things as "I don't care what SASUKEpedia says" (which may come because the wikia is kinda filled with inaccuracies and bad grammar but as for the results, the admin is very careful to take care of mistakes) is just not the way to prove your point, sorry. EDIT: This comes from a guy who despises ANW as much as most people do and has criticized their politics on the competition way too many times EDIT No.2: With your thinking we can say that Nagano cleared the Jumping Spider in SASUKE 24, because he made the jump and stuck in the walls? Don't think so It's all good.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Jul 2, 2016 12:44:25 GMT -5
TBS is the authority of their own show. They have Mika as the first women to ever clear the Warped Wall. They have Ayano the first to do it in competition. PERIOD. And no he fell in the water. That's a fail whether it is on a timer or not. Time ups are dealt with very very differently. If it's TBS that actually states that then I'll pass. Please though, no biased opinions as your posts certainly make it look that way.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2016 12:45:59 GMT -5
TBS is the authority of their own show. They have Mika as the first women to ever clear the Warped Wall. They have Ayano the first to do it in competition. PERIOD. And no he fell in the water. That's a fail whether it is on a timer or not. Time ups are dealt with very very differently. If it's TBS that actually states that then I'll pass. Please though, no biased opinions as your posts certainly make it look that way. I'm trying to debunk the biased opinions of the Kacy brigade. Under no circumstances are the results of other people to be subverted for the benefit of another. TBS ruling is crystal clear. How the hell is that biased?
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Jul 2, 2016 12:56:07 GMT -5
If it's TBS that actually states that then I'll pass. Please though, no biased opinions as your posts certainly make it look that way. I'm trying to debunk the biased opinions of the Kacy brigade. Under no circumstances are the results of other people to be subverted for the benefit of another. TBS ruling is crystal clear. How the hell is that biased? I don't really know who you refer to as the "Kacy brigade". I'm talking about myself and what my eyes read. "Looks" is different than "is". The only person that lost her temper is you (at least your posts show that). If you calmly stated the TBS thing several posts behind this would have ended rather quickly...Anyway Navi #2 has started. We shall move on.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2016 12:59:03 GMT -5
I'm trying to debunk the biased opinions of the Kacy brigade. Under no circumstances are the results of other people to be subverted for the benefit of another. TBS ruling is crystal clear. How the hell is that biased? I don't really know who you refer to as the "Kacy brigade". I'm talking about myself and what my eyes read. "Looks" is different than "is". The only person that lost her temper is you (at least your posts show that). If you calmly stated the TBS thing several posts behind this would have ended rather quickly...Anyway Navi #2 has started. We shall move on. I didn't imply people were morons for not thinking the incorrect information was true..
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Post by mayhudson on Jul 2, 2016 13:31:47 GMT -5
Is there a video up of Kacy's run yet?I missed the show.
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Post by higeboshi on Jul 2, 2016 13:32:34 GMT -5
Spoiler: Mosquito gets two people before being smashed.
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Post by ArbuthnotBlob on Jul 2, 2016 13:37:10 GMT -5
I tried to catch the last 10 minutes of the navi and all I saw was that advert ^^^ and the painkiller one, back to back, constantly.
The only actual content was the Yamada faceplant, which I already knew about...
Did I miss anything interesting at the beginning?
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2016 13:39:03 GMT -5
I tried to catch the last 10 minutes of the navi and all I saw was that advert ^^^ and the painkiller one, back to back, constantly. The only actual content was the Yamada faceplant, which I already knew about... Did I miss anything interesting at the beginning? They reran the first half of Navi. They only added Yamada's Wednesday Downtown appearance which as already shown last week along with Akiyama. The only real addition was the pep talk for the Black Tigers and that last clip of the Shin Sedai all the way at the end.
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Post by Philip on Jul 2, 2016 13:41:38 GMT -5
I wasn't able to watch either Navis as I am on my way home from a ninja gym. However, I see the shitstorm going on here and all I'll say is Kacy's run will be exciting to watch when I get home.
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Post by ArbuthnotBlob on Jul 2, 2016 13:42:53 GMT -5
I tried to catch the last 10 minutes of the navi and all I saw was that advert ^^^ and the painkiller one, back to back, constantly. The only actual content was the Yamada faceplant, which I already knew about... Did I miss anything interesting at the beginning? They reran the first half of Navi. They only added Yamada's Wednesday Downtown appearance which as already shown last week along with Akiyama. The only real addition was the pep talk for the Black Tigers and that last clip of the Shin Sedai all the way at the end. Cheers! Unfortunately missed the first Navi, c'est la vie and all that. At least this allowed me to test the stream in time for tomorrow's broadcast!
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 2, 2016 13:43:49 GMT -5
If it's TBS that actually states that then I'll pass. Please though, no biased opinions as your posts certainly make it look that way. I'm trying to debunk the biased opinions of the Kacy brigade. Under no circumstances are the results of other people to be subverted for the benefit of another. TBS ruling is crystal clear. How the hell is that biased? Just saying the "Kacy Brigade" in this thread are people who are sick of NBC's push of her I am interested in seeing where TBS said it though because with a time based obstacle like the Soritatsu Kabe the official ruling usually means the obstacle has to be completed within the time limit because Ayano did technically have a Soritatsu Kabe Time Up since she wasn't finished the obstacle, I'm not trying to take anything away from her at all (Hell, I'd prefer if she was the first so NBC can't say anything more about Kacy lol) but she did run out of time before finishing the obstacle. But unfortunately the facts are Oshima Ayano completed the Soritatsu Kabe while running out of time on it and after time expired, Kacy Catanzaro cleared the Soritatsu Kabe and was able to advance to the next obstacle (and the obstacle after it)
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Post by SuperTiger on Jul 2, 2016 13:47:55 GMT -5
It's quite interesting to me that Kacy's run was a Navi run. Makes me wonder if we aren't going to see a woman do better than her in the main broadcast.
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2016 13:49:09 GMT -5
I'm trying to debunk the biased opinions of the Kacy brigade. Under no circumstances are the results of other people to be subverted for the benefit of another. TBS ruling is crystal clear. How the hell is that biased? Just saying the "Kacy Brigade" in this thread are people who are sick of NBC's push of her I am interested in seeing where TBS said it though because with a time based obstacle like the Soritatsu Kabe the official ruling usually means the obstacle has to be completed within the time limit because Ayano did technically have a Soritatsu Kabe Time Up since she wasn't finished the obstacle, I'm not trying to take anything away from her at all (Hell, I'd prefer if she was the first so NBC can't say anything more about Kacy lol) but she did run out of time before finishing the obstacle. But unfortunately the facts are Oshima Ayano completed the Soritatsu Kabe while running out of time on it and after time expired, Kacy Catanzaro cleared the Soritatsu Kabe and was able to advance to the next obstacle (and the obstacle after it) The ruling is clear. And has been for a year. Given that Mika did the exact same thing and she was the first credited to do so, Ayano has already been declared the first to clear the obstacle. Both failed their respective stages but the obstacle was cleared and duly noted on the broadcasts. There's no quibble over it. Kacy timed up on a different obstacle that no other woman had gotten to. That alone should be celebrated. There's no reason to erase Ayano when TBS has already credited her with the clear.
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Post by RiderLeangle on Jul 2, 2016 13:54:09 GMT -5
Just saying the "Kacy Brigade" in this thread are people who are sick of NBC's push of her I am interested in seeing where TBS said it though because with a time based obstacle like the Soritatsu Kabe the official ruling usually means the obstacle has to be completed within the time limit because Ayano did technically have a Soritatsu Kabe Time Up since she wasn't finished the obstacle, I'm not trying to take anything away from her at all (Hell, I'd prefer if she was the first so NBC can't say anything more about Kacy lol) but she did run out of time before finishing the obstacle. But unfortunately the facts are Oshima Ayano completed the Soritatsu Kabe while running out of time on it and after time expired, Kacy Catanzaro cleared the Soritatsu Kabe and was able to advance to the next obstacle (and the obstacle after it) The ruling is clear. And has been for a year. Given that Mika did the exact same thing and she was the first credited to do so, Ayano has already been declared the first to clear the obstacle. Both failed their respective stages but the obstacle was cleared and duly noted on the broadcasts. There's no quibble over it. Kacy timed up on a different obstacle that no other woman had gotten to. That alone should be celebrated. There's no reason to erase Ayano when TBS has already credited her with the clear. I'm completely fine with that, what I was just asking was wanting to see where TBS said it, I legit want to know, I'm not one of those people who hates being wrong and would loved to be proven wrong about this one
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Post by arsenette on Jul 2, 2016 14:02:10 GMT -5
I'm completely fine with that, what I was just asking was wanting to see where TBS said it, I legit want to know, I'm not one of those people who hates being wrong and would loved to be proven wrong about this one I did but you guys didn't want to listen and I'm being "biased" because I'm clear on the ruling that was broadcast worldwide last year. Not remember that I pitched a fit that they fast forwarded that piece of history last year? It is still on my blog.
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Post by PsychoDelusion on Jul 2, 2016 14:06:32 GMT -5
I'm completely fine with that, what I was just asking was wanting to see where TBS said it, I legit want to know, I'm not one of those people who hates being wrong and would loved to be proven wrong about this one I did but you guys didn't want to listen and I'm being "biased" because I'm clear on the ruling that was broadcast worldwide last year. Not remember that I pitched a fit that they fast forwarded that piece of history last year? It is still on my blog. If giving the benefit of the doubt sounds like convicting to you then I'm sorry. I'll know next time and avoid answering altogether.
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