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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 9:46:55 GMT -5
Aww man I was really hoping we would see Geoff tear it up in Japan. Regardless of what people think about the guy, I am slightly worried given the recent difficulty of Sasuke that we could end up with a back-to-back kanzenseiha. Not Isaac's fault, he's just on a whole new level compared to the usual pool in Japan. I have similar worries about Morimoto. I hope the course designers are making course difficulty a priority in spite of the financial difficulties. Well KUNOICHI had back to back to BACK winners thanks to a **** ******* ****** girl (only Philip will get this lol) named Ayako, they had to make the course ridiculously hard in the 7th competition and it showed, even Ayako failed Stage 2. But in SASUKE's case, there are varying advantages and disadvantages every competitor has since the course is a mixed bag. The CCH is harder for heavier competitors due to the big 180º jump they have to make. The Warped Wall is easier for taller competitors and the Wall Lifting is harder for those who can't lift heavy objects very well e.g. Morimoto and Yuuji. Despite the very low budget this year, i'm confident the production team can make a tough course even tougher.
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on May 17, 2016 13:41:12 GMT -5
Dude, look at this from TBS's viewpoint. They'll invite who they want and whoever they think will benefit the show or its ratings. They don't invite based on personality, or else Jamie Rahn & every other "bright light" of America would be invited.
Based on Geoff's invitation, TBS wants "recently crowned American champions" for whatever reason. Logically, they wouldn't invite one without inviting the other.
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Post by arsenette on May 17, 2016 14:23:02 GMT -5
Dude, look at this from TBS's viewpoint. They'll invite who they want and whoever they think will benefit the show or its ratings. They don't invite based on personality, or else Jamie Rahn & every other "bright light" of America would be invited. Based on Geoff's invitation, TBS wants "recently crowned American champions" for whatever reason. Logically, they wouldn't invite one without inviting the other. Given that Drew has been there for a few years now that is not necessarily the case. It's not also "logically" one without the other. They want someone who will fit in Sasuke and not be a distraction (especially with the theme of this show). NBC doesn't want him.. why the hell would TBS want him?
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on May 17, 2016 14:46:14 GMT -5
Dude, look at this from TBS's viewpoint. They'll invite who they want and whoever they think will benefit the show or its ratings. They don't invite based on personality, or else Jamie Rahn & every other "bright light" of America would be invited. Based on Geoff's invitation, TBS wants "recently crowned American champions" for whatever reason. Logically, they wouldn't invite one without inviting the other. Given that Drew has been there for a few years now that is not necessarily the case. It's not also "logically" one without the other. They want someone who will fit in Sasuke and not be a distraction (especially with the theme of this show). NBC doesn't want him.. why the hell would TBS want him? NBC doesn't not want him. It has already been discussed on other threads that it sounds much more like Isaac and NBC reached an impasse in negotiations, and Isaac willingly walked away that NBC blacklisted him. If they had really cut ties and hated Isaac, they wouldn't be plugging him to the extent they are with the ANW 8 promo materials. We don't like him because of his conduct off camera, his attitude and his statements about Geoff. I get that. Being in the position to make demands and failing is not the same as causing a controversy there, on set, in front of everyone and disrupting the day. That has never been the problem with Isaac, and even if he was a bit grouchy, I highly doubt TBS would care. They have, after all, never stopped Yamada from attending all these years, and he seems to avoid people like the plague on set. The benefits of inviting such a high-profile ninja as Isaac for Sasuke, outweighs the slim chance that he would cause any issues on the day, so from a corporate standpoint I don't buy that Isaac is more risk than reward. Hell, considering Geoff couldn't attend, and they obviously wanted an American champion, Isaac's chances just went up even more.
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Post by arsenette on May 17, 2016 15:02:37 GMT -5
You even brought up Yamada who is perma banned as an example. Wow... I won't even bother. Must be nice in the little world you live in. Either way. I'm out. I've already said more than enough on the matter.
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Post by GlobalNinjaFan on May 17, 2016 15:13:38 GMT -5
You even brought up Yamada who is perma banned as an example. Wow... I won't even bother. Must be nice in the little world you live in. Either way. I'm out. I've already said more than enough on the matter. You brought up his possible conduct on set as a reason why TBS wouldn't invite him. Yamada has been present on set for years. Logic fail. Anyway, he has a decent chance of being invited irrespective of what the "expert" thinks. An awfully cocky stance to take considering you are more than likely wrong.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 16:01:11 GMT -5
I'm out. I've already said more than enough on the matter. I'm following suit. I will wait for the competitor lineup to be announced by TBS.
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Post by LusitaniaAngel313 on May 17, 2016 16:53:21 GMT -5
Well we're down to around 10 days! You won't be waiting long for the answers to be revealed. I'm kinda sitting on the fence on the Isaac thing. If he's in SASUKE I say good luck and we'll see how he stands in the end.
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Post by TCM on May 17, 2016 19:28:24 GMT -5
Given that Drew has been there for a few years now that is not necessarily the case. It's not also "logically" one without the other. They want someone who will fit in Sasuke and not be a distraction (especially with the theme of this show). NBC doesn't want him.. why the hell would TBS want him? NBC doesn't not want him. It has already been discussed on other threads that it sounds much more like Isaac and NBC reached an impasse in negotiations, and Isaac willingly walked away that NBC blacklisted him. If they had really cut ties and hated Isaac, they wouldn't be plugging him to the extent they are with the ANW 8 promo materials. We don't like him because of his conduct off camera, his attitude and his statements about Geoff. I get that. Being in the position to make demands and failing is not the same as causing a controversy there, on set, in front of everyone and disrupting the day. That has never been the problem with Isaac, and even if he was a bit grouchy, I highly doubt TBS would care. They have, after all, never stopped Yamada from attending all these years, and he seems to avoid people like the plague on set. The benefits of inviting such a high-profile ninja as Isaac for Sasuke, outweighs the slim chance that he would cause any issues on the day, so from a corporate standpoint I don't buy that Isaac is more risk than reward. Hell, considering Geoff couldn't attend, and they obviously wanted an American champion, Isaac's chances just went up even more. Based off the fact Issac is not competing in ANW 8 means that the scope of what Issac potentially being a competitor in Sasuke has is moot. He's not going to bump interest domestically (in Japan) as ANW has zero significance in Japan outside of TBS going 'How neat is it how far Sasuke has reached!', which does nothing in terms of adding ratings. Internationally (in the US), if NBC isn't going to mention Issac during the broadcast in a present tense manner, then on the off-chance he is a competitor, they have zero need to mention his trip to Japan, especially because NBC in all likelihood wouldn't show it because Sasuke hasn't been shown for more than 30 seconds a segment (if that) in the last five years and they've gone so far as to illegally download the show themselves to show clips to get out of paying for them. The only reminder ANW viewers have of Sasuke's existence as a show is the vs. The World specials and they do everything possible to downplay it. They didn't even mention why a particular competitor's addition to Team Japan's lineup mattered. And if Issac is just an observer/someone's Plus-1, that makes it even less likely he'll be mentioned. Back when Brian Orosco was one of the few named Americans for ANW and he went to Japan as support/competitor alternate because he didn't make the top 10, he didn't so much as have a camera panned deliberately on him in the Sasuke broadcast; he got shown in passing as part of another competitors reaction shot. And this is all predicated on the idea that Issac will even be there, never mind any Americans there will have the ANW name attached to them (or will do well enough to be shown on the broadcast anyways). You even brought up Yamada who is perma banned as an example. Wow... I won't even bother. Must be nice in the little world you live in. Either way. I'm out. I've already said more than enough on the matter. You brought up his possible conduct on set as a reason why TBS wouldn't invite him. Yamada has been present on set for years. Logic fail. Anyway, he has a decent chance of being invited irrespective of what the "expert" thinks. An awfully cocky stance to take considering you are more than likely wrong. Yamada is no longer allowed to be a competitor, that's what is meant by banned. His last performance on the course was only available through the knowledge of those willing to share and it will never be shown in any capacity. We don't even know the details of why he's banned. If he is on set, it is purely in a mentor role for the Black Tigers where he has no leverage on production because of past transgressions. He has no impact on the future of the show or its legacy anymore. He hasn't been relevant in a decade. He hasn't been a competitor to watch the show for for longer than that. It's funny you call her cocky, yet she's actually a confirmation of going to the taping. So based off that alone, she has a better sense of what could possibly be going on even if she has no clue on who will be there or not. And again, even if he is there, and wins at that, the earliest ANW can show him in person to discuss it is Vegas because he won't be competing considering how it would be considered a slap in the face in the entire selection process to so many (whether I think that makes sense or not). Otherwise, it's something that could only be mentioned in passing, which is the extent that he can be mentioned this season since he isn't competing.
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Post by beeeeeees on May 17, 2016 22:14:56 GMT -5
As for being in the Japanese course.. no he doesn't deserve to be there. Lord knows I've spent 3 years on this board being yelled at that "ANW is NOT Sasuke".. then by that token Sasuke is not ANW and he doesn't have to be invited. ANW isn't even show in Japan and Japan has no mark in ANW. TBS can and has invited who the hell they want for their variety sports show which comprised of wildcards and is shown specifically to the Japanese audience. I didn't say he deserved to be there, if that was addressed to me. I said that he's proven to be an awesome competitor, and it will be great to see him on the Japanese course. Obviously having top competitors is great for ANW and for Sasuke, and Isaac is probably the best Ninja style course competitor in the world. I am sure that the vast majority of people who watch the show would be excited to see him compete. Not wanting him on the show is like being a golf fan and not wanting Tiger Woods to compete at an event because he's a dick off the field. If your primary enjoyment of Ninja Warrior competitions is seeing top athletes take on and try to beat difficult obstacle courses, having the best people involved is going to make for the most entertaining TV. One of the things I like about Sasuke over ANW is that there is less focus on nice/inspirational but average people, and more focus on just the actual best athletes. Isaac is perfect for that.
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Post by gt4dom on May 18, 2016 8:12:50 GMT -5
Does anyone know if he can swim? If not mwhahahahaha (Although they'll probably remove it for 32 )
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Post by thebobmaster on May 18, 2016 11:09:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know if he can swim? If not mwhahahahaha (Although they'll probably remove it for 32 ) Given how much he exhorts the wonders of living off the land, and his general interest in the outdoors, I'd be amazed if he couldn't swim.
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Post by wolf4537 on May 25, 2016 12:35:05 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me what is the situation in this topic? Sounds like a lot of hostility from the first couple pages, but I'm pretty lost since I haven't been keeping up with Sasuke all that much.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 12:35:56 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me what is the situation in this topic? Sounds like a lot of hostility from the first couple pages, but I'm pretty lost since I haven't been keeping up with Sasuke all that much. Basically there were rumours spreading about Isaac Caldiero participating in SASUKE 32 after he quit ANW.
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Post by SolitudeSeeker. on May 25, 2016 17:00:56 GMT -5
....I don't think Isaac should have been invited.
But I'm just typing this as someone who is still a year and a half from twenty one.
I don't know lol.
I'm glad to see more Americans in the tournament again now lol.
I may log off for now.
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Post by BobbyG11 on May 26, 2016 21:06:21 GMT -5
So I revisited isaac's Instagram post of his flight schedule to Japan. Originally he typed #sasuke. He's since edited it to #sumo instead. No mention of Sasuke anymore
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Post by SasukeDoctor on May 27, 2016 6:47:49 GMT -5
So I revisited isaac's Instagram post of his flight schedule to Japan. Originally he typed #sasuke. He's since edited it to #sumo instead. No mention of Sasuke anymore
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 13:41:01 GMT -5
Can we please lock this thread?
Isaac is not competing in SASUKE 32 and I think it's time we stop picking on Isaac. Yes he has done some controversial things these past few months, but it's best we move on, right?
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Post by RobbyMac on May 27, 2016 16:30:22 GMT -5
You've been warned.... spoilers below What do you mean? Isaac is showing up. Just like current champ Caldiero won't be a ANW8, Yuusuke Morimoto may not be competing at Sasuke 32. Yuusuke is essentially Isaac by not being there!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 18:47:30 GMT -5
You've been warned.... spoilers below What do you mean? Isaac is showing up. Just like current champ Caldiero won't be a ANW8, Yuusuke Morimoto may not be competing at Sasuke 32. Yuusuke is essentially Isaac by not being there! Yusuke is totally not Isaac. Yusuke is like, the coolest guy around. Isaac is the total opposite. Yusuke would never do what Isaac did.
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